ESPN making some big cuts......

[THE HCP]

Because of ESPN's cutbacks, I'll probably lose around $10,000 this year. They are no longer using my position for soccer games on the road. They are replacing us with full time employees back in Bristol. I'm one of the lucky ones who doesn't actually work for ESPN that much. Still hurts, especially during my off season.

 

[jlprk]

http://www.outkickthecoverage.com/espn-cutting-nearly-100-million-in-on-air-talent-030617

I'm not saying the site is biased against its competitor ESPN, but the bottom of the page says

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[Pinwheel1]

I'm not saying the site is biased against its competitor ESPN, but the bottom of the page says

Yes I was thinking the same thing. They hate each other.

 

[Orion Bailey]

OK, I'll chime in on this topic.....

ESPN has lost its way. It used to deliver a balance of news and highlights of the day or the previous day's events. That's why most people tuned in.

It doesn't seem to be that format any longer. Reminds me of MTV going from Music Videos to all the other crap that doesn't interest me.

ESPN in the morning used to show highlights - now early to mid morning its a talk show. Spare me.

Yes, I'm also an old fogy who doesn't like the constant music and loud noise at Blazers games. I prefer being able to root on my own and believe me I know when the team needs to be spurred on. I fondly remember days in the MC when end-zone / behind-the-basket fans would stomp their feet to get the team going!!

You know you are absolutely right and great comparison.

The problem is tryign to fix things that arent broken so you can get that last 1% potential of viewer base rather than just being content with a superb product and just leave it at that.

When MTV first came out it was the best thing on the Tube.
Remember Midnight Metal? Sunday Hip Hop?
Man it was the best. Then they tried to make it better. Now it completely suck and Paladia and VH-1 are fare superior.

The same has happened to ESPN. They had th best product in sports. Why did they need to change it or try to improve it? SC was the shit. It was my half hour news report from the previous day for all the highlights I missed.
Now its just a mish mosh of crap story lines.

The same problem exists in many facets of our society and I understand that it is instinct to an extent to try to improv what is, but sometimes there is no way to improve and we must just be content with what things are.

 

[Orion Bailey]

Because of ESPN's cutbacks, I'll probably lose around $10,000 this year. They are no longer using my position for soccer games on the road. They are replacing us with full time employees back in Bristol. I'm one of the lucky ones who doesn't actually work for ESPN that much. Still hurts, especially during my off season.

That sucks man. So you have more than one gig? I kinda just assumed 82 games was plenty and the rest was spent with family??
Your taxes mustg be hell to figure out because aren't you taxed based on the state you worked in and not where you reside? So you have 50... well 48 w2's every year and then one from Canada for Toronto games right?

 

[julius]

Because of ESPN's cutbacks, I'll probably lose around $10,000 this year. They are no longer using my position for soccer games on the road. They are replacing us with full time employees back in Bristol. I'm one of the lucky ones who doesn't actually work for ESPN that much. Still hurts, especially during my off season.

Just sell all of your shoes.

I'm assuming, tho, you have other options you can do instead of ESPN?

 

[illmatic99]

It's all about on demand content now. It's why Netflix and Prime video are killing this new game.

ESPN and Turner invested in the one thing that has to be on live, and not be on demand: live sports. And clearly the new demographic doesn't care much about it.

 

[Scalma]

I still love NBA on TNT, tune in whenever I can, and I don't even care about any team outside the Blazers. Part of that is because Ernie and the rest of those guys (not shaq) are entertaining (not informative, I take them for what they are.)

ESPN doesn't have any likeable talent. Not in the NBA department, and especially not in the NFL department. They all suck. Literally, all of them.

And I agree about looking forward to the NFLs demise. I live in San Diego. Enough said lol.

 

[THE HCP]

That sucks man. So you have more than one gig? I kinda just assumed 82 games was plenty and the rest was spent with family??
Your taxes mustg be hell to figure out because aren't you taxed based on the state you worked in and not where you reside? So you have 50... well 48 w2's every year and then one from Canada for Toronto games right?

I have an accountant do my taxes, they are nuts. Now that I'm a little more established, I'll only work for 6 or 7 companies a year. Used to be 10-15 when I was starting out. I have an accountant do my taxes. Way to confusing. No way I'd be able to do them myself.
Last summer Brazil. This summer I'll be working in London, Kazakhstan. So I just let the pros handle it.

As far as working just the 82 games, that's only 5 1/2 months. I guess I could work just half a year, because of all the travel. But a mortgage, 2 car payments and a wife and 2 growing kids costs a lot of money FAMS. Along those lines, about 2 years ago, I started saying no to some work for the first time. As a freelancer, you only make money when they call, so you don't want to piss anybody off by saying no all the time. But I'm pretty established, so they are cool with it, just can't turn too many companies down.

 

[BBert]

You know you are absolutely right and great comparison.

The problem is tryign to fix things that arent broken so you can get that last 1% potential of viewer base rather than just being content with a superb product and just leave it at that.

When MTV first came out it was the best thing on the Tube.
Remember Midnight Metal? Sunday Hip Hop?
Man it was the best. Then they tried to make it better. Now it completely suck and Paladia and VH-1 are fare superior.

The same has happened to ESPN. They had th best product in sports. Why did they need to change it or try to improve it? SC was the shit. It was my half hour news report from the previous day for all the highlights I missed.
Now its just a mish mosh of crap story lines.

The same problem exists in many facets of our society and I understand that it is instinct to an extent to try to improv what is, but sometimes there is no way to improve and we must just be content with what things are.

I loved Palladia. Past tense. It was exactly what I always wanted MTV to be. But MTV bought Palladia last year and renamed it MTVLive or somesuch. Then they tweaked it. Fixed something that wasn't broken. It isn't nearly as good. Fuck you MTV.

 

[BBert]

I still love NBA on TNT, tune in whenever I can, and I don't even care about any team outside the Blazers. Part of that is because Ernie and the rest of those guys (not shaq) are entertaining (not informative, I take them for what they are.)

ESPN doesn't have any likeable talent. Not in the NBA department, and especially not in the NFL department. They all suck. Literally, all of them.

And I agree about looking forward to the NFLs demise. I live in San Diego. Enough said lol.

Unless I'm watching the Blazers, I never last more than five minutes on ESPN. I hate every single one of their smug snarky talking heads. Have they no clue?

 

[santeesioux]

They're all just so bland, and that bland talent is leaving to places like FS1 like Skip did.

 

[Natebishop3]

Maybe ESPN should tell the NBA and NFL to stop fucking with their product?

The NFL has taken all the fun out of football. Stupid penalties, no celebrations, too many commercials, etc etc etc. It's a rotten league. Goodell is a piece of shit.

The NBA is a sham, and most people know it. We all know it's going to be GSW vs CLE in the Finals. Why tune in and watch something that's predictable and essentially scripted?

 

[Scalma]

Maybe ESPN should tell the NBA and NFL to stop fucking with their product?

The NFL has taken all the fun out of football. Stupid penalties, no celebrations, too many commercials, etc etc etc. It's a rotten league. Goodell is a piece of shit.

The NBA is a sham, and most people know it. We all know it's going to be GSW vs CLE in the Finals. Why tune in and watch something that's predictable and essentially scripted?

The NBA is great, even knowing that it's a two team race. I love watching it. Maybe it's just me.

 

[Natebishop3]

The NBA is great, even knowing that it's a two team race. I love watching it. Maybe it's just me.

It boils down to favoritism and unbalanced refereeing. Why is Draymond Green allowed to kick people without repercussions? Why is James Harden allowed to jump on someone's back and the foul is called on them?

http://ftw.usatoday.com/2016/12/draymond-green-kicks-james-harden-warriors-rockets



The NBA is a joke.

 

[Scalma]

It boils down to favoritism and unbalanced refereeing. Why is Draymond Green allowed to kick people without repercussions? Why is James Harden allowed to jump on someone's back and the foul is called on them?

http://ftw.usatoday.com/2016/12/draymond-green-kicks-james-harden-warriors-rockets



The NBA is a joke.

Then don't watch it?

 

[Orion Bailey]

I have an accountant do my taxes, they are nuts. Now that I'm a little more established, I'll only work for 6 or 7 companies a year. Used to be 10-15 when I was starting out. I have an accountant do my taxes. Way to confusing. No way I'd be able to do them myself.
Last summer Brazil. This summer I'll be working in London, Kazakhstan. So I just let the pros handle it.

As far as working just the 82 games, that's only 5 1/2 months. I guess I could work just half a year, because of all the travel. But a mortgage, 2 car payments and a wife and 2 growing kids costs a lot of money FAMS. Along those lines, about 2 years ago, I started saying no to some work for the first time. As a freelancer, you only make money when they call, so you don't want to piss anybody off by saying no all the time. But I'm pretty established, so they are cool with it, just can't turn too many companies down.

Geez, I own two homes and I cant handle my taxes and turn them over to an accountant. Have an appt. at 6pm tonight as a matter of fact. I could only imagine the paperwork involved. Your bill from your accountant is probably equal to all the taxes I paid before write offs.

My stepfather was an accountant and I could have went to school and took over his business, but numbers are soo boring. Now I kind of wish I did. Similiar to your freelancing, it wold be nice to set my own hours a as a CPA.

 

[THE HCP]

Geez, I own two homes and I cant handle my taxes and turn them over to an accountant. Have an appt. at 6pm tonight as a matter of fact. I could only imagine the paperwork involved. Your bill from your accountant is probably equal to all the taxes I paid before write offs.

My stepfather was an accountant and I could have went to school and took over his business, but numbers are soo boring. Now I kind of wish I did. Similiar to your freelancing, it wold be nice to set my own hours a as a CPA.

Ya I'm lucky man. He really helps me out with all the different state rules.....and is great at finding things I can write off. My bill is usually around $700, but I just remind myself that I can write that off the next year. I don't complain, like my car and house, rather pay somebody skilled who knows what they're doing, than try myself.

 

[Natebishop3]

Then don't watch it?

I don't.

Isn't that the whole point? ESPN is bleeding money. Apparently I'm not the only one who doesn't watch it.

 

[Strenuus]

Ya I'm lucky man. He really helps me out with all the different state rules.....and is great at finding things I can write off. My bill is usually around $700, but I just remind myself that I can write that off the next year. I don't complain, like my car and house, rather pay somebody skilled who knows what they're doing, than try myself.

Damn, $700 isn't actually that bad.