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Boob-No-More said:
Lol, if Gerald Green is the answer to your biggest problem, you have a new, even bigger problem.

That article is pure wishful thinking by a Celtics fan that is butt hurt over losing Turner. Gerald Green has shot above league average from 3-point range twice in the last 6 seasons hes played - which is actually twice in the last 8 years as two of those years he didn't even play in the NBA.

I also like the way he criticizes Turner for being turnover prone (averaged almost 2 TOVs per game and minimizes his assists (only averaged 4.5 APG coming off the bench). While failing to mention that the last time Green played as many minutes as Turner he averaged 1.8 TOV and a whopping 1.5 APG. For his career, Green has far more TOVs (610) than AST (498), yet Turner, who averages more than 2 AST/TOV is the one that is turnover prone and ONLY gets 4.5 APG last yeara and 5.5 APG the year before.

Right. Does the author not realize that nearly half the starting PGs in the league have averaged fewer APG than Evan Turner has the past two seasons? Apparently not, because he thinks Gerald "The Chucker" is a better player and a better fit for the Celtics. Yeah, good luck with that.

For a player who relies on athleticism, Green is now on the wrong side of 30. His performance peaked at 27, typical for players who rely on athleticism, and has been in decline since and will continue to decline. The author mentions he had a bad year last season in MIA and brushes it off as an anomaly, like it won't happen again. Wrong, it's not a one time thing, it's part of a trend. Get used to it.

Turner is now 27 and relies on skills, not athleticism. He will continue to improve, while the older Green, who has never been more than a high USG% chucker, will continue to decline.

BNM
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You did drop the mic right? Damn!
 
Boob-No-More said:
Lol, if Gerald Green is the answer to your biggest problem, you have a new, even bigger problem.

That article is pure wishful thinking by a Celtics fan that is butt hurt over losing Turner. Gerald Green has shot above league average from 3-point range twice in the last 6 seasons hes played - which is actually twice in the last 8 years as two of those years he didn't even play in the NBA.

I also like the way he criticizes Turner for being turnover prone (averaged almost 2 TOVs per game and minimizes his assists (only averaged 4.5 APG coming off the bench). While failing to mention that the last time Green played as many minutes as Turner he averaged 1.8 TOV and a whopping 1.5 APG. For his career, Green has far more TOVs (610) than AST (498), yet Turner, who averages more than 2 AST/TOV is the one that is turnover prone and ONLY gets 4.5 APG last yeara and 5.5 APG the year before.

Right. Does the author not realize that nearly half the starting PGs in the league have averaged fewer APG than Evan Turner has the past two seasons? Apparently not, because he thinks Gerald "The Chucker" is a better player and a better fit for the Celtics. Yeah, good luck with that.

For a player who relies on athleticism, Green is now on the wrong side of 30. His performance peaked at 27, typical for players who rely on athleticism, and has been in decline since and will continue to decline. The author mentions he had a bad year last season in MIA and brushes it off as an anomaly, like it won't happen again. Wrong, it's not a one time thing, it's part of a trend. Get used to it.

Turner is now 27 and relies on skills, not athleticism. He will continue to improve, while the older Green, who has never been more than a high USG% chucker, will continue to decline.

BNM
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Your posts are long but NEVER tl/dr.
 
I would rather we sign 10 Chris Kamans than 1 Evan Turner. Neil didn't just blunder. He fucked up terribly.
 
Leonard is simply the most baffling contract ever. He was offered a contract, turned it down to bet on himself, lost that bet...and Olshey handed him the same contract.

I agree that he's not the largest albatross; he's not capable of being a big anything. The team can survive what he's paid--it's just baffling.
 
Still can't believe this guy is getting 17 big ones per year.
 
Minstrel said:
Leonard is simply the most baffling contract ever. He was offered a contract, turned it down to bet on himself, lost that bet...and Olshey handed him the same contract.

I agree that he's not the largest albatross; he's not capable of being a big anything. The team can survive what he's paid--it's just baffling.
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dviss1 said:
Wait what??? Revisionist history much??

We were WELL aware of the contract extension that was offered and well aware that Butters turned it down to "bet on himself "....

We watched him lose that bet.

The market spoke and there were no reported offers for Butters services.

We then were ASTOUNDED when Neil signed him to the SAME FUCKING DEAL...

Am I missing something? :dunno:
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I like Evan Turner he gets bashed too much for his contract. It's not his fault that's what NEIL offered, unlike Crabbe who signed with another team with IMO every hope and intention that he would NOT be a Blazer. At least Turner chose to be here and has a tangible impact on the game, sometimes positive, sometimes not, but at least you know he's out there. Crabbe on the other hand.... not so much the occasional three is all you get oh and 19.5 mil with a 15% trade kicker.
 
chzbrgr said:
I like Evan Turner he gets bashed too much for his contract. It's not his fault that's what NEIL offered, unlike Crabbe who signed with another team with IMO every hope and intention that he would NOT be a Blazer. At least Turner chose to be here and has a tangible impact on the game, sometimes positive, sometimes not, but at least you know he's out there. Crabbe on the other hand.... not so much the occasional three is all you get oh and 19.5 mil with a 15% trade kicker.
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Pretty sure most of us think of Crabbe and Turner on a similar level as a player.

The problem was, crabbe had like a 2 million cap hold before we resigned him. People aren't happy we used the cap space on evan turner. Turner was surprised himself at how much he was offered. Neil basically bid against himself and started out way higher than anyone else.

Many of us don't know what all was out there last year in terms of trades or who else could have been signed at a better rate, but that doesn't mean evan turner is ever going to make us feel warm and fuzzy about him. I mean, i think he is a cool guy and all, but, he isn't fulfilling his contract.
 
IF, and that's a big if we're a WCF contender a guy like Turner can be invaluable in the playoffs. Gets crafty buckets when no-one else can. He doesn't have to match the dollar value of his contract to be a worthwhile assets.

This team needs to focus on DEFENSE. Especially dominating the front court, owning the key and winning the boards. Do that and scorers like Turner and shooters like Crabbe are damn nice to have around.
 
Regardless of how much you like or dislike Turner, the ultimate truth is that he must play better and more consistently than last year. Of course, he probably will due to the Nurkic effect alone.
 
Wizard Mentor said:
Regardless of how much you like or dislike Turner, the ultimate truth is that he must play better and more consistently than last year. Of course, he probably will due to the Nurkic effect alone.
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I want to say last year was a aberration for Turner and he'll be back to his level of play he had with the Celtics and at certain points throughout the year last year. He was playing really pretty well right before he broke his shooting hand and had a predictable drop off after that. However, by the end of the year he had gotten back to a very solid level of play that can be sustained for the foreseeable future. I think a full year of health and more familiarity with his teammates will make all the difference for ET, I dont know Nurk plays that much into it.
 
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