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Second rule of evidence is life hasn't been proven to be created without life.
 
magnifier661 said:
Not someone; the most important minds in science. Lol
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I bet those great minds couldn't show me a unicorn does not exist. Thus, proof of unicorns is the inability of the greatest scientists to prove they do not exist. Yeah, that makes great sense.
 
Third. The universe is fine tuning; which would mean the universe has purpose. Purpose = design. Which equals a designer. Hey if we want to make two threads exactly alike; that's fine by me.
 
RR7 said:
I bet those great minds couldn't show me a unicorn does not exist. Thus, proof of unicorns is the inability of the greatest scientists to prove they do not exist. Yeah, that makes great sense.
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The funny thing is scientists actually disproved a unicorn existing.
 
RR7 said:
I bet those great minds couldn't show me a unicorn does not exist. Thus, proof of unicorns is the inability of the greatest scientists to prove they do not exist. Yeah, that makes great sense.
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Again, what do unicorns have to do with the possibility of there being a Creator, in which you can put together powerful arguments for based on the observations seen on earth and in the universe?
 
OdenRoyLMA2 said:
Again, what do unicorns have to do with the possibility of there being a Creator, in which you can put together powerful arguments for based on the observations seen on earth and in the universe?
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Neither has been disproven by great minds, so they are similar in their proof of existence, according to mags.
 
RR7 said:
Can you prove that life can not be created without life?
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I think the fact that intelligent life (scientists) can't come close to creating life in all their efforts, yet it can appear accidentally from dead, brainless, unguided matter should tell you something.
 
magnifier661 said:
Yep. Proof is what we've tested. So far, life hasn't been able to exist without life. Insert designer here.
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hasn't been able to exist? Or be created? We don't have proof it has never been created, NEVER, out of nothing.
 
OdenRoyLMA2 said:
I think the fact that intelligent life (scientists) can't come close to creating life in all their efforts, yet it can appear accidentally from dead, brainless, unguided matter should tell you something.
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Tells me they haven't figured out yet how it started, to be able to "run that test" and duplicate it, I suppose. Unless they've already got all the answers currently that there will ever be. That'd be amazing.
 
RR7 said:
hasn't been able to exist? Or be created? We don't have proof it has never been created, NEVER, out of nothing.
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Well that's when you have to use logic rr7 like any scientist would. The DNA is a code. Code has a programmer. Programers need a creator. Creator = God.
 
logic, no, faith yes. You fill in your belief for something you can not answer. That is not EVIDENCE of something.
 
RR7 said:
Tells me they haven't figured out yet how it started, to be able to "run that test" and duplicate it, I suppose. Unless they've already got all the answers currently that there will ever be. That'd be amazing.
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Even if they is manage to do it (which is highly unlikely given what we know about the complexity of single celled organisms) i'd say the difficulty they've already had would be enough to rule out it being created by blind chance. At this point in time, it takes a hell of a lot of faith to be an atheist IMO.
 
RR7 said:
logic, no, faith yes. You fill in your belief for something you can not answer. That is not EVIDENCE of something.
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Really? What requires more faith? A program writing itself or a programmer writing the program?
 
OdenRoyLMA2 said:
Even if they is manage to do it (which is highly unlikely given what we know about the complexity of single celled organisms) i'd say the difficulty they've already had would be enough to rule out it being created by blind chance. At this point in time, it takes a hell of a lot of faith to be an atheist IMO.
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Did you know that the code in a 2" square of DNA would have enough information to build a thick Harry potter novel all the way to the sun and back? I read that from a science magazine.
 
OdenRoyLMA2 said:
Well that's your opinion, I personally believe there are mountains and mountains of overwhelming evidence for a Creator/Designer behind the universe, and there are a lot of scientists/philosophers now and throughout history that agree with me. I personally have yet to hear an atheistic argument behind origins that's in any way convincing, much less more powerful than theistic arguments.
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There are more scientists that DONT believe in god than do.
 
magnifier661 said:
Did you know that the code in a 2" square of DNA would have enough information to build a thick Harry potter novel all the way to the sun and back? I read that from a science magazine.
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It gets a lot more impressive than that buddy. You should read up on how incredibly fine tuned the universe is for life, like razor sharp.
 
http://pda.physorg.com/_news132406601.html

Lol maybe unicorns do exist?! Haha

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magnifier661 said:
Lol you would think so; but we already covered this Denny. You gave me the link and I already explained it on the other thread. Sorry if you actually thought changing the title actually changes the outcome.

If the most important minds in science can't find evidence to disprove God; and if there are still creationist in te fields of science; it should explain that there hasn't been enough evidence to support that god doesn't exist.
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My understanding and use of Logic is reasonably good. Good enough to see a straw man when I see it. I didn't have to just read up about it, either.

Nobody has ever argued, but you as a straw man, that the most important minds in science are even looking for evidence to disprove god.


Here's another one for you. This details your logic. To the point where people post this smiley:

:banghead:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denying_the_antecedent
 
BoBoBREWSKI said:
There are more scientists that DONT believe in god than do.
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Throughout history it's not even close, and I'd disagree with the notion that today more scientists disbelieve than believe. As we come to know more about the world we live in the more the evidence points to "design!".
 
Denny Crane said:
My understanding and use of Logic is reasonably good. Good enough to see a straw man when I see it. I didn't have to just read up about it, either.

Nobody has ever argued, but you as a straw man, that the most important minds in science are even looking for evidence to disprove god.


Here's another one for you. This details your logic. To the point where people post this smiley:

:banghead:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denying_the_antecedent
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That isn't what's been said.

If Queen Elizabeth is an American citizen, then she is a human being.
Queen Elizabeth is not an American citizen.
Therefore, Queen Elizabeth is not a human being.

It hasn't been twisted like Queen not a U.S. citizen; therefor she is not human.

If God doesn't exists;
Then there should be proof he doesn't exist;
therefor he doesn't exist.

As you see everything is in the same context; therefor it is NOT A STRAWMAN

Notice that the question changes in the middle. I haven't changed the question in mid form.
 
OdenRoyLMA2 said:
Throughout history it's not even close, and I'd disagree with the notion that today more scientists disbelieve than believe. As we come to know more about the world we live in the more the evidence points to "design!".
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Recent polls, that have even been quoted on Christian websites, show that 1 in 3 scientists believe in god.
 
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