Expectations for Scoot in 24/25?

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Rastapopoulos said:
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Super excited about Scoot's potential but there is one important number during that 12 game run to end the season that is missing from this graphic and that is 5.25. Scoot had 5.25 turnovers per game over his last dozen games last season.
 
blazerkor said:
Super excited about Scoot's potential but there is one important number during that 12 game run to end the season that is missing from this graphic and that is 5.25. Scoot had 5.25 turnovers per game over his last dozen games last season.
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Who does he think he is, Caitlin Clark?
 
jlprk said:
Stop doing stupid things, like passing into the stands, dribbling off his foot, and passing to a teammate who has to leap 4 feet to catch it, and loses the opportunity to shoot. He often played like a 10-year-old. 5th grade, not as good as an average 7th grader. He was Raymond Felton. The useless Ignite coaches had taught him nothing.

Stop going crazy congratulating himself with a wide-open mouth and yanking his chest jersey, when he finally does some trivial thing right. Think like an adult, a professional, not a child.
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This is wrong and nearly racist.
 
kjironman1 said:
What part of that is "Nearly Racist"?
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Nothing. Eric has clearly never heard of or read the story of never cry wolf.
is there anything worse than making false claims like this?
I mean it totally undermines any valid complaint some may have regarding actual racist behavior against some?
A mod ought to delete those false claims Eric tosses out like candy without thought.
 
More than anything else I want to see signs that he is developing his left hand.
 
blazedanugz said:
if he shoots 39% from 3 then we no doubt made the right decision and he’s gonna be a star.
I’ll be happy with 34/35%
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Imo the shot looked much better once he broke out last year, but obv sample size blah blah blah
 
KingSpeed said:
This is wrong and nearly racist.
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I'm probably the most anti-racist person on the board, going back to 60s radicalism. What I wrote, accurate in every word so much that I would often yell at him while watching games, is adultist. He made many mistakes in each game which get you benched in high school games. And I mean mistake after mistake, not just a couple per game. He often ruined 3-4 consecutive offensive plays before Billups ran a play to take it out of his hands. We would go way down with him in, then recover with him out, then...he's back in to get experience.

After a lot of yelling from Billups, he made fewer mistakes late in the season...partly because the defenses let up on us knowing they'd blow us out anyway, partly because Billups eased up on requirements for him, and partly because months of coaching penetrated his over-quick skull, so Little Scooter slowed his play to think about what he was about to do. Amazing what being a grown-up can do for you.
 
jlprk said:
I'm probably the most anti-racist person on the board, going back to 60s radicalism. What I wrote, accurate in every word so much that I would often yell at him while watching games, is adultist. He made many mistakes in each game which get you benched in high school games. And I mean mistake after mistake, not just a couple per game. He often ruined 3-4 consecutive offensive plays before Billups ran a play to take it out of his hands. We would go way down with him in, then recover with him out, then...he's back in to get experience.

After a lot of yelling from Billups, he made fewer mistakes late in the season...partly because the defenses let up on us knowing they'd blow us out anyway, partly because Billups eased up on requirements for him, and partly because months of coaching penetrated his over-quick skull, so Little Scooter slowed his play to think about what he was about to do. Amazing what being a grown-up can do for you.
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I'm glad you responded well to that. I must admit I might not have been as concise in my response.
 
Hopefully Scoot’s rookie wall was the first half of his rookie season
 
kjironman1 said:
I'm glad you responded well to that. I must admit I might not have been as concise in my response.
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My answer reads like a rant, which I didn't intend. KingSpeed is an excellent poster.

I watch the games online for free, which always carry the other teams' play-by-play, although I like Kevin Callabro.

Several commentators last year, such as the great Walt Frazier, began the game enthused to watch Little Scooter, but soon said that he has a lot to learn. He hadn't even made one patented boneheaded pass yet.

...I figured out his too-quick passes to others' feet. He's in it for the money. He must share the patent with Raymond Felton.
 
Just improve is the main thing. He won’t fix all of his weakness in one offseason but the main thing I want to see him do is learn to control the pace and use more footwork to get to the rim and less out of control.

A example would be Westbrooke, even as he got older he never improved in that area. He only knew one speed and too many times he was out on control while attacking.
 
FG%, especially at the rim. He's good at getting to the rim but was an abysmal finisher.
 
beast blazer said:
FG%, especially at the rim. He's good at getting to the rim but was an abysmal finisher.
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he did have a terrible conversion rate at the rim. That's not uncommon for rookie guards but even factoring that it was still a bad conversion rate

Dame was at .531 as a rookie; Scoot was at .503. Dame's conversion rate averaged around .650 the last few seasons, but he's a veteran who has become very savvy at drawing shooting fouls around the rim. So, often when he missed, it didn't count as a miss because he drew the whistle. Hopefully Scoot starts to learn those tricks

I'm not sure I'd say he was good at getting to the rim without knowing what his turnover rate was on those dribble-drives to the rim. He was a turnover machine last season
 
wizenheimer said:
he did have a terrible conversion rate at the rim. That's not uncommon for rookie guards but even factoring that it was still a bad conversion rate

Dame was at .531 as a rookie; Scoot was at .503. Dame's conversion rate averaged around .650 the last few seasons, but he's a veteran who has become very savvy at drawing shooting fouls around the rim. So, often when he missed, it didn't count as a miss because he drew the whistle. Hopefully Scoot starts to learn those tricks

I'm not sure I'd say he was good at getting to the rim without knowing what his turnover rate was on those dribble-drives to the rim. He was a turnover machine last season
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That will improve when he gets more comfortable with his left hand.
 
kjironman1 said:
That will improve when he gets more comfortable with his left hand.
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that's likely true. Dame was not as right-hand dominant as Scoot, but it was after he improved his left hand dribble skills that he really increased his conversion rate at the rim
 
wizenheimer said:
that's likely true. Dame was not as right-hand dominant as Scoot, but it was after he improved his left hand dribble skills that he really increased his conversion rate at the rim
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Another point that might make a difference is Dame was 4 years older when he got into the league. Scoot might improve greatly in the next 3-4 years?
 
Rastapopoulos said:
I notice he's not wearing goggles. I hope that means he's finally got contact lenses.
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It was my understanding that he did get contacts last season and the goggles (at some point) were to help him to keep from rubbing his eyes. They said that on multiple broadcasts IIRC.
 
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