Explain this to me, lefties.

[chris_in_pdx]

Do you have a job? I've never seen so much whining and bitching from somebody about how much everybody else has and how nobody is taking care of poor-little-you. Get off your ass, get a job and stop whining. Damn.

A) Touch a nerve, asshole?

B) You don't know a fucking thing about me, so how about you eat a nice plate of Shut The Fuck Up.

 

[Haakzilla]

You are sure he'd have lived to be 95 years old?

barfo

...haha, fixed!

 

[Denny Crane]

It's not me they'd be coming after. I pay my taxes.

Mitt Romney, on the other hand, is probably worried.

barfo

Romney pays his taxes, but Obama wants to bleed him dry. And they are coming for you. Or you might get hit in the crossfire.

Next time we talk about spending cuts vs. raising taxes, how about we cut the spending on bullets for the IRS (the govt. doesn't need to be militarized except the military and the police) instead of raising taxes so we can buy more bullets for the IRS?

 

[Denny Crane]

Actually, the IRS is probably gearing up because the Bush tax cuts are going to expire and there are going to be many more millions of people losing their homes. They may well try to defend those homes when the tax man comes to take those homes away.

 

[jlprk]

https://www.fbo.gov/index?s=opportu...88a3301e5&tab=core&_cview=0&fb_source=message

IRS soliciting for a contractor to provide them with 174,000 rounds of “.357 Sig 125 grain bonded jacketed hollow point pistol ammunition.

They're coming for you, barfo.

IRS offices now have armed guards who look like they just got out of the military. All they do is answer questions, while you wait for the real IRS agent, about which shelf has which blank form that you want. Under Bush, the nation increased security and intelligence spending by a few hundred billion dollars per year. It's one reason Obama can't bring down the deficit like Clinton did.

 

[blazerboy30]

A) Touch a nerve, asshole?

B) You don't know a fucking thing about me, so how about you eat a nice plate of Shut The Fuck Up.

Wrong. I know this about you... you bitch and moan more about things not being "fair" than anybody else on this board.

 

[Denny Crane]

IRS offices now have armed guards who look like they just got out of the military. All they do is answer questions, while you wait for the real IRS agent, about which shelf has which blank form that you want. Under Bush, the nation increased security and intelligence spending by a few hundred billion dollars per year. It's one reason Obama can't bring down the deficit like Clinton did.

Sure he can. Just don't spend the money on the increased security and intelligence. Or at least don't spend the money on bullets for the IRS.

 

[jlprk]

You've forgotten those articles in the early Reagan years, gloating how, after Carter cut the CIA, the laid-off agents kept meeting to influence their insider friends to make him look bad. Then Reagan rehired them. No president since has cut intelligence spending.

Similarly, since the boys killed JFK (E. Howard Hunt admitted it), the only president who opposed intelligence over any issue was Nixon, so Helms got him.

 

[MARIS61]

Do you have a job? I've never seen so much whining and bitching from somebody about how much everybody else has and how nobody is taking care of poor-little-you. Get off your ass, get a job and stop whining. Damn.

Your mom says to log off and come upstairs for dinner.

 

[MARIS61]

Actually, the IRS is probably gearing up because the Bush tax cuts are going to expire and there are going to be many more millions of people losing their homes. They may well try to defend those homes when the banker comes to take those homes away.

The end of the Bush tax cuts will cause an economic recovery actually preventing tens of millions of foreclosures.

 

[Denny Crane]

The end of the Bush tax cuts will cause an economic recovery actually preventing tens of millions of foreclosures.

When the Bush tax cuts expire, the people you sold homes to will have $2200 (on average) in tax increases. And it will be the govt. taking properties if the people can't afford to pay the taxes and the mortgage.

 

[jlprk]

When the Bush tax cuts expire, the people you sold homes to will have $2200 (on average) in tax increases. And it will be the govt. taking properties if the people can't afford to pay the taxes and the mortgage.

Obama proposes to end only the 90% of Bush tax cuts which were for the wealthiest 1%, not the few middle class tax cuts like the one you mentioned.

 

[Denny Crane]

Obama proposes to end only the 90% of Bush tax cuts which were for the wealthiest 1%, not the few middle class tax cuts like the one you mentioned.

But they're all going to expire. Obama proposed to cut the deficit in half by 2011 and close Guantanamo. What he says he wants and what he fails to achieve are very different things.

 

[jlprk]

I wonder why, with conservatives of both parties voting for the good of the nation and all.

 

[Eastoff]

But they're all going to expire. Obama proposed to cut the deficit in half by 2011 and close Guantanamo. What he says he wants and what he fails to achieve are very different things.

That is a rather interesting situation going on. What will happen when everyone knows if they are or are not going to get re-elected. I don't think they will be able to make a change in time about the tax cuts expiring.

 

[Denny Crane]

That is a rather interesting situation going on. What will happen when everyone knows if they are or are not going to get re-elected. I don't think they will be able to make a change in time about the tax cuts expiring.

They do have a lame duck session after the election where they can pass an extension. They're pretty well dug in on their positions, though (both sides). I'm dubious they'll do anything.

Democrats want to punish the top 1% and Republicans won't consider raising tax rates.

 

[Eastoff]

They do have a lame duck session after the election where they can pass an extension. They're pretty well dug in on their positions, though (both sides). I'm dubious they'll do anything.

Democrats want to punish the top 1% and Republicans won't consider raising tax rates.

It's always interesting to see who can outspin the other side about blame. Democrats didn't want to extend tax cuts for everyone, or republicans let taxes go up for everyone.

 

[Denny Crane]

It's always interesting to see who can outspin the other side about blame. Democrats didn't want to extend tax cuts for everyone, or republicans let taxes go up for everyone.

My guess is they'll pass a short term extension, as-is, and let the newly elected congress deal with it.

 

[Eastoff]

My guess is they'll pass a short term extension, as-is, and let the newly elected congress deal with it.

No! Never, it's not like they've done that before or something.

 

[Denny Crane]

As I wrote about earlier, in my post about GDP growth...

With GDP growing at just 1.5%, the tax cuts expiring would be a ~4% hit to the economy, and would certainly cause an immediate recession. They do have to act in some form.

 

[huevonkiller]

How is not taxing the people and not spending money somehow government spending?

This concept (that it's somehow spending) defies logic.

Wow talk about Socialist.

What's funny is that these lefties used to whine about Bush's deficit spending, hah how things have changed.

 

[huevonkiller]

...maybe we should all wake-up a little more, "righties" and "lefties" included

We live in a Keynesian society, and a statist society. So your pyramid chart there is whining about things that are completely irrelevant to the world's problems. Liberty is uncommon, socialism is more common. It is incredible to me that you could complain about people who want less state control, not more.


You don't have a run on banks btw, unless there's a unison governmental credit expansion that artificially lowers interest rates.

 

[huevonkiller]

But they're all going to expire. Obama proposed to cut the deficit in half by 2011 and close Guantanamo. What he says he wants and what he fails to achieve are very different things.

Oh God I love quoting those promises. They are some of my faves from him.

 

[jlprk]

https://www.fbo.gov/index?s=opportu...88a3301e5&tab=core&_cview=0&fb_source=message

IRS soliciting for a contractor to provide them with 174,000 rounds of “.357 Sig 125 grain bonded jacketed hollow point pistol ammunition.

They're coming for you, barfo.

http://rt.com/usa/news/social-security-request-bullets-968/

I just realized that they are hollow point. Unnecessary.

 

[Haakzilla]

We live in a Keynesian society, and a statist society. So your pyramid chart there is whining about things that are completely irrelevant to the world's problems. Liberty is uncommon, socialism is more common. It is incredible to me that you could complain about people who want less state control, not more.


You don't have a run on banks btw, unless there's a unison governmental credit expansion that artificially lowers interest rates.

...you must be confused with the premise of my illustrations. There is a false right-left paradigm, it does not matter what side of the political/proverbial aisle you are on, policy is influenced/controlled by the same powers at the top...for their own objectives/profits, not for the American people/pawns. I have never once complained about people wanting less state/government control so I'm confused as to where you are getting this impression?!

I am certain that bank runs can happen under many other scenarios than the fictitious one you described. The "government" does not control interest rates

 

[RedHotRollin]

The real question is who is running against Barack Obama,... Romney or Ryan? The Romney campaign has made Ryan the face of the ticket. So I will ask the question again, if we decide on that ticket. Are we electing Romney as the President of the United States or Paul Ryan? Seems to be Ryan's ideas and not Romneys.

 

[huevonkiller]

...you must be confused with the premise of my illustrations. There is a false right-left paradigm, it does not matter what side of the political/proverbial aisle you are on, policy is influenced/controlled by the same powers at the top...for their own objectives/profits, not for the American people/pawns. I have never once complained about people wanting less state/government control so I'm confused as to where you are getting this impression?!

Incorrect, since some of the ideologies you posted had nothing to do with the "right" at all. The Republican party is Keynesian, not Ricardian etc.

I am certain that bank runs can happen under many other scenarios than the fictitious one you described. The "government" does not control interest rates

The Federal Reserve does set the interest rate, and the board of governors is appointed and controlled by the government. At any point the government could make them cease operations, but they do not. The Central Bank phenomena started in Sweden then London, and now we have one as well.

Also it takes a unison credit expansion for their to be a large run on banks, because the interest rate is being artificially lowered at all banks, at the same time.

 

[huevonkiller]

Oh and I'll take this time to point out you think the Earthquake in Haiti was caused by the US government. ;]

 

[maxiep]

Oops. We have our first gaffe of the DNC (i.e., a gaffe is when a party tells you exactly what they believe)

 

[Denny Crane]

Unbelievable, maxiep.

The government doesn't define us, we define the government.