OT Father lunges at Larry Nassar in court

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julius

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Now while I fully suspect certain posters here will pull the "if he was a real american/real father, he never would've let his daughters get molested/join gymnastics" etc horse shit, but those people just say that shit to sound edgy or continue the character they've created on here, given that I still present the video.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/02/02/us/larry-nassar-attack-court/index.html
 
Still never understand why three police officers need to tackle the person and drive their knees and weight into the back. I mean I guess it’s just protocol but still, a bit overkill. Anyways, I fully support this father having all the time in the world with that sick fuck.
 
Now while I fully suspect certain posters here will pull the "if he was a real american/real father, he never would've let his daughters get molested/join gymnastics" etc horse shit, but those people just say that shit to sound edgy or continue the character they've created on here, given that I still present the video.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/02/02/us/larry-nassar-attack-court/index.html
Say I'm full of shit all you want but when I coached 5th grade YMCA basketball and had to take a kid to go to the bathroom I made another kid go with him and I entered the bathroom first while they waited and once I deemed it safe I let them go in together while I stood outside.

We had practice at different facilities all the time and I didn't know who was there.

It was for their safety as well as mine.

I haven't followed this story that well but I can't for the life of me understand how this monster had private time with little girls.

I don't know what this dad knew about it or ANYTHING about him but I'm cool with him attacking the guy and I'm cool with the cops tackling him and stopping him. How much force they use is not my decision.
 
Still never understand why three police officers need to tackle the person and drive their knees and weight into the back. I mean I guess it’s just protocol but still, a bit overkill. Anyways, I fully support this father having all the time in the world with that sick fuck.

No its not. You have to neutralize the threat and use force. This ain't the bitch olympics, they are police officers yo.
 
Too bad they didn't pick a father big enough to get the fucker in spite of the police. You know, A big fella!
There's a guy at the Gym that's scary as fuck. About 6'7" all muscle and probably 285 lbs. On adrenaline those cops would have gotten hurt by him. Pretty sure he takes "supplements" if you know what I mean.

The dad looks like a big guy, just not fast enough.
 
I would've have done the same thing. In his defense he asked the judge for five minutes alone with Nassar, then after she denied his request, he asked for a minute alone with Nassar. Thr judge again denied his request, so he took it upon himself.
 
I'll take the minority view and say that I don't support extra-judicial vengeance, even in a situation like this. I'm glad the police in the courtroom were able to restrain the dad, and I'm also glad that the judge has said she's not going to levy any punishment against him.
 
At this age, I have to say that I agree with him. I would like to think that I would not end up with my face on the floor and cops riding me like a fifty cent hooker. But how I was when my daughter was that age, all bets are off.

I hear you.
 
I don't support extra judicial vengeance but I can certainly understand it in this case. Wrong, but understandable.
 
Here's the thing.... these parents need to accept some of the blame because many of them ignored their kids. Some parents flat out called their kids liars. Nassar is a huge piece of shit that deserves to be in prison for the rest of his life.... but I honestly can't believe how many of these parents ignored their kids.
 
Here's the thing.... these parents need to accept some of the blame because many of them ignored their kids. Some parents flat out called their kids liars. Nassar is a huge piece of shit that deserves to be in prison for the rest of his life.... but I honestly can't believe how many of these parents ignored their kids.

Yep, hard to understand that kind of parenting. I suspect they were seeing visions a greatness instead of what is.
 
Who in the world would take such a stance? Is that real take?

Nope...

Here's the thing.... these parents need to accept some of the blame because many of them ignored their kids. Some parents flat out called their kids liars. Nassar is a huge piece of shit that deserves to be in prison for the rest of his life.... but I honestly can't believe how many of these parents ignored their kids.
 
Contempt of court is at the Judge's discretion, I'm glad she chose not to punish the dad. I was literally shaking in anger watching the original video so I can't even imagine the anger/pain/hopelessness this father felt as he listened to his daughters' testimonies in the presence of that fucking monster. There's no telling what any one of us who are fathers would have done in the same situation.
 
Here's the thing.... these parents need to accept some of the blame because many of them ignored their kids. Some parents flat out called their kids liars. Nassar is a huge piece of shit that deserves to be in prison for the rest of his life.... but I honestly can't believe how many of these parents ignored their kids.
Larry Nassar is a professional manipulator, which makes it harder to pass judgement on the parents. One of the fathers has since killed himself out of sheer guilt.
 
Say I'm full of shit all you want but when I coached 5th grade YMCA basketball and had to take a kid to go to the bathroom I made another kid go with him and I entered the bathroom first while they waited and once I deemed it safe I let them go in together while I stood outside.

We had practice at different facilities all the time and I didn't know who was there.

It was for their safety as well as mine.

I haven't followed this story that well but I can't for the life of me understand how this monster had private time with little girls.

I don't know what this dad knew about it or ANYTHING about him but I'm cool with him attacking the guy and I'm cool with the cops tackling him and stopping him. How much force they use is not my decision.
As a coach you handled things exactly right. You did the correct and responsible thing in a world that gets crazier everyday. I have two sons and spent most of their grade school years coaching them in baseball and basketball. This stretches back almost 30 years and things have changed since then (and not for the better obviously). I never had to worry much about the bathroom thing as we practiced at the schools they attended and anyone present was pretty much a known commodity. But even back then it was good to have a paranoid streak because you never know how a kid (or parent) might respond if playing time or behavior was an issue (psycho kids DO exist, as do psycho parents). But I never left a field or gym without knowing all the kids were accounted for by their parents or otherwise approved guardians. I never took a kid home without my own kid(s) in the car, or without their parents knowing I was giving them a ride. Hell, I was never alone with any kid but my own. And I always tried to communicate right up front with the parents over any issues or concerns that they (or myself) might have so they didn’t get blown out of proportion.

I rarely had any issues with kids or parents (other than about playing time) and sometimes I felt like I was going overboard, but sometimes (not too often...but often enough) a kid would be the rudderless child of clueless and oblivious parents, and while they were on my watch they were my responsibility. And all these years later no one can EVER come down the pike and accuse me or my assistants of anything other than the best of intentions......
 
His response is literally unrelated to your post.

Normally I don't question peoples reading skills but...

Now while I fully suspect certain posters here will pull the "if he was a real american/real father, he never would've let his daughters get molested/join gymnastics" etc horse shit, but those people just say that shit to sound edgy or continue the character they've created on here, given that I still present the video.

Here's the thing.... these parents need to accept some of the blame because many of them ignored their kids. Some parents flat out called their kids liars. Nassar is a huge piece of shit that deserves to be in prison for the rest of his life.... but I honestly can't believe how many of these parents ignored their kids.

He was indirectly blaming the parents, which is what I was saying people would do.
 
Normally I don't question peoples reading skills but...





He was indirectly blaming the parents, which is what I was saying people would do.
He was LITERALLY talking about after the fact. Reread your post again and again until you see the difference.

I suppose you can put it in the "etc horse shit" you added but he was talking about parents not believing their kids.
 

Apparently you didn't follow the case, because there were actually parents that punished their daughters when they tried to tell them what was happening. They called them liars.

You don't think those parents deserve some share of the blame?
 
http://people.com/sports/kyle-stephens-larry-nassar-sexual-abuse/

Years later, when she was 12, Stephens told her parents about the abuse and her mother and father confronted their friend Nassar. Stephens said Nassar denied the abuse and “my parents chose to believe Larry Nassar over me.” She said her parents made her speak with Nassar about the allegations, and the predator allegedly told her, “No one should ever do that, and if they do, you should tell someone.”

After that, Stephens said in court that her relationship with her parents deteriorated, especially her connection to her father.
“His belief that I lied seeped into the foundation of our relationship,” she said. “Every time we got into a fight, he would tell me, ‘You need to apologize to Larry’ … I started to question whether the abuse ever happened. ”

As time passed, the Nassars began pressuring Stephens into babysitting their children, she said. When she was at their home, the family acted as if she never accused Nassar at all. Disconnected from her family, Stephens said she began doing all she could to pay for her own counseling, as she knew she could not ask her parents for help.

She ended up confronting her father about Nassar again when she was 18, before leaving for college. Her father, who later killed himself, finally believed her.

“My father and I did our best to patch up our tattered relationship before he committed suicide in 2016,” Stephens told the court through tears. “Admittedly, my father was experiencing debilitating health issues, but had he not had to bear the shame and self-loathing that stemmed from his defense of Larry Nassar, I believe he would have had a fighting chance for life.”
 
Normally I don't question peoples reading skills but...





He was indirectly blaming the parents, which is what I was saying people would do.

I am not indirectly blaming the parents. I am directly putting blame on parents that did not believe their kids when they told them what was going on. It's one thing to say that the parents should have known, but it's another thing entirely to have your kids tell you something is wrong and to just flat out not believe them, while continuing to put them in that same situation. At that point the parents become negligent and culpable.
 
Apparently you didn't follow the case, because there were actually parents that punished their daughters when they tried to tell them what was happening. They called them liars.

You don't think those parents deserve some share of the blame?

Yeah, and that has nothing to do with what this father did.
 
He was LITERALLY talking about after the fact. Reread your post again and again until you see the difference.

I suppose you can put it in the "etc horse shit" you added but he was talking about parents not believing their kids.

guh, there are times when I wonder why I even bother posting here.
 
Yeah, and that has nothing to do with what this father did.

I don't know the circumstances of this particular parent in this whole shit show, but all I'm saying is that not all the parents are completely blameless in this.

If your kid told you something was wrong, and you keep bringing them back despite their pleas for help, how does that not make you partially responsible?
 
guh, there are times when I wonder why I even bother posting here.
I wonder why you post here all the time. You dismiss any judgement towards any of the parents as some sort of online persona and then act righteous after the fact. What's your point, because I guess I don't get it.

Nate saying that parents that called their kids liars deserve some blame doesn't seem too much like your description of "real Americans" or whatever the fuck it was.

Should the parents be arrested or ostracized? Nope, but people can learn from them if they made mistakes.

I really can't fathom underage girls being left alone with a male doctor EVER but maybe I'm naive and it happens all the time.
 
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