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On the subject of Lil Wayne, he's either ghey or extremely comfortable with his sexuality.

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Oh and NTC, are you sure you didn't confuse the Lil' Wayne lyrics with Umairs' battle lyrics?
 
<div class="quote_poster">NTC187 Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">So you're telling me Lil' Wayne is actually "the greatest rapper alive", because he claims he is, so I guess since there are no facts in music, you cant prove otherwise, right?

C'mon, do you understand how stupid your argument actually is? What you're saying is, if I were to come here, and say "Lil' Jon is the greatest rapper of all time, he has the BEST flow and lyricism out of any other rapper dead or alive. . ." then that would be correct, but, it is not correct, as Lil' Jon is 1. a producer, not a rapper and 2. all he ever says is "What!?" and "Yeah!!".

Opinions can be wrong, my opinion is that Lil' Wayne is a terrible rapper, correct, but its also a fact, because he doesnt live up to any of the standards set by the legends and innovaters of Hip-Hop such as Nas, Rakim, Jay-Z, Notorious B.I.G, Tupac, KRS-One etc. etc.

Here is an example of what I'm talking about, I just randomly picked this song, its called "Bring It Back" ft. Mannie Fresh:



Now here is a segment by Guru (Gang Starr) from the song "JFK to LAX":



Now tell me Lil' Wayne's lyrics are as complex as that.</div>
Nobody said Lil' Wayne's lyrics were complex. It is a fact that most of his songs are very weak in subject matter, but I just like the confidence he has when he raps about the stuff he does rap about. Most of Jay Z's rhymes are not complex either, but people still like him because of the syle he has of his own.

Everybody can't be the same, just because Wayne doesn't have the complexity of some of the rappers you listed doesn't mean he can't be a good rapper.

Before I said he was the "best rapper alive", well I definitely take that back because I realized Wayne is what he is. He is going to talk about money, hos, cars, and guns. I just happen to like the way he does it, by the way of his punchlines ect. But he is definitely far from the best.

No he isn't on the level of people like Nas, Rakim, or Mos Def. His style is far different from theirs, I'd rather listen to someone who is good with their own style, than to be a bad wanna-be.

By the way Chutney, I like the song Stuntin Like My Daddy, the chorus sounds pretty wack, but I like Wayne's two verses. I mean it's nothing lyrical but its nice imo. "How you want it, show me my opponent *eating noise* done with my opponent"
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<div class="quote_poster">Laker_fan Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">On the subject of Lil Wayne, he's either ghey or extremely comfortable with his sexuality.

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I will say this though, and I'm willing to argue.

Lil' Wayne> Chamilitary aka "sing a hook on every song"
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Oh and NTC, are you sure you didn't confuse the Lil' Wayne lyrics with Umairs' battle lyrics?</div>
That was lame. fall back.
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Seems pretty highschool to me.</div>
Call it what you want, a lottttttttt of people will still do it despite what someone like you thinks.
 
The dude on the right of that picture has the same look I had on when I saw that.
 
<div class="quote_poster">Chutney Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">The dude on the right of that picture has the same look I had on when I saw that.</div>

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So true, I had the same look when I saw that picture. Wayne is even tilting his head like chicks do when they look up to you to kiss.

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Air Fresh:</div><div class="quote_post">That was lame. fall back.</div>

Not as lame as these lyrics from "Fireman."

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Lil Wayne - Fireman:</div><div class="quote_post">
Mama gimme that brain
Mama gimme that good
Cause I'm the fireman
You hear the firetruck etc... etc....
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They are pretty similar to these Umair lyrics:

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Umair:</div><div class="quote_post">My sister aint a hoe, your momma is one, which is fo'sho
She got a nice booty, which go up and down
She is so fugly, she look like a clown
She is a little flirty
But gets in the bed and knows how to get dirty
She did a split
So i got my hands, and grabbed her tits!
They were big and wobbly
But I just grabbed em softly..
It was nice and fun
We woke up in the morning together and watched the sun</div>

Sorry about that Umair but I'm sure you can laugh at yourself.
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<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Laker_fan:</div><div class="quote_post"> but I'm sure you can laugh at yourself.</div>
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<div class="quote_poster">Chutney Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">.....</div>

I said this because he may take offence to some of the things I said.

Oh, Air Fresh would you consider T.I and Wayne to have similar styles? If so, T.I is better at that "style" than Wayne.
 
TI style is different, he has a nice flow, rarely has stand out lines.

Wayn'es lines stand out.

Fireman isn't a good song, but neither is "Im'a show you how to get ya shine on!!!!" Every Chamill song I've heard the N is singing on the hook. I mean you can say its his style, but he is a rapper not a damn singer. Ish gets annoying quick.
 
<div class="quote_poster">Chutney Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">The dude on the right of that picture has the same look I had on when I saw that.</div>
The Gorilla Black looking dude or the Rip Hamilton looking one?
 
<div class="quote_poster">MrJ Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">The Gorilla Black looking dude or the Rip Hamilton looking one?</div>
The Rip one. Also, those two dudes who just turned their heads away in disgust were pretty funny too.
 
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Air Fresh:</div><div class="quote_post">Everybody can't be the same, just because Wayne doesn't have the complexity of some of the rappers you listed doesn't mean he can't be a good rapper.</div>

You're right, he CAN be a good rapper, if he put the work in to change, however he ISNT a good rapper, based on his current style.

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Air Fresh:</div><div class="quote_post">Before I said he was the "best rapper alive", well I definitely take that back because I realized Wayne is what he is. He is going to talk about money, hos, cars, and guns. I just happen to like the way he does it, by the way of his punchlines ect. But he is definitely far from the best.</div>

The way I look at it, Wayne is on the same level and The Game, his subject matter is all "Cash Money", "Weezy F. Baby" "I'm So Rich" etc. etc. If he was as good as he says he is, he would be switching things up, trying other avenues rather than the same tried crap every song.

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Air Fresh:</div><div class="quote_post">No he isn't on the level of people like Nas, Rakim, or Mos Def. His style is far different from theirs, I'd rather listen to someone who is good with their own style, than to be a bad wanna-be.</div>

While you're right, those 3 all have completley different styles, all while meeting the same criteria in making a well rounded, good MC.
 
<div class="quote_poster">NTC187 Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">
The way I look at it, Wayne is on the same level and The Game, his subject matter is all "Cash Money", "Weezy F. Baby" "I'm So Rich" etc. etc. If he was as good as he says he is, he would be switching things up, trying other avenues rather than the same tried crap every song.
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I definitely agree with you...

Thats why I like Lupe better.

Now you can't tell me Lupe is garbage.
 
<div class="quote_poster">Air Fresh Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">

No Lil' Wayne is not gay, he already has a daughter. </div>

No Lil' Wayne is not straight, he's kissing Baby on the mouth...

same ideaology
 
<div class="quote_poster">KS1 Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">No Lil' Wayne is not straight, he's kissing Baby on the mouth...

same ideaology</div>
Call him gay if you want to, you don't know them so its not like it matters what you think. The n is not gay, he has a daughter. If anything that would make him Bi, and dude is not bi. He kisses a man that he sees as his father. If someone took you off the streets and raised you, and told him to kiss you in the mouth you probably would to. Thats their reason for that, I'm not supporting it, I think its very weird. But to each his own.

My only question is, why would another man care about whast another man does, when he has no relation to the person at all?

You edited your post for spelling yet you still spelled ideology wrong, get on ya job hater.
 
<div class="quote_poster">Air Fresh Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Now you can't tell me Lupe is garbage.</div>

Well I havent heard enough of him to comment, but he is definatley better than Lil' Wayne, thats for sure, lol.

Also Lil' Wayne isnt gay, Baby is his father (adoptive father), so thats why he is kissing him in that photo, just as any boy would to his father. Men in the Mafia (I think this may be a common Italian greeting, although I'm not sure) frown upon homosexuality, yet they greet each other with a kiss on the cheek, does that make them gay?
 
Yeh but these two aren't in the mafia are they? I'm not saying he's gay though, it was meant to be a little joke. Maybe he's curious.
 
My favorite Lil Wayne line.

"I'm a p-p-pimp,
I spit out shrimp" - Cash Money Millionaires

If that's what Air Fresh defines a stand out line, then I'll take T.I.'s bland lines everyday.
 
How was it a photoshop? His shadow was on the other dude's face.
 
<div class="quote_poster">Brian Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">You guys realize that picture was photoshopped right?</div>

It's not photoshopped. Baby even went on some radio show and discussed what he was doing.
 
<div class="quote_poster">Locke Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">My favorite Lil Wayne line.

"I'm a p-p-pimp,
I spit out shrimp" - Cash Money Millionaires

If that's what Air Fresh defines a stand out line, then I'll take T.I.'s bland lines everyday.</div>

Line in my sig, which was a freestyle by Wayne> any TI lines I've heard.

and I'm curious to what song that line is from, he probably said that when he was like 13-15 years old. Nvm, damn that line was garbage, I found the song, and idk where the hell that came from.

Stand Out lines imo
<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">And people say that I am a kid still, cuz the lil n**** still rides on big wheels</div>

<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">You sleep in a field for tryin the dude
I bust ya head to the meat, turn ya mind to food
Food for thought, think I ain't lying to you</div>
 
<div class="quote_poster">Air Fresh Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Line in my sig, which was a freestyle by Wayne> any TI lines I've heard.</div>

Why do you even have that line in your sig?
 
Best albums:

Nas - God's Son
Young Jeezy - Thug Motivation 101
Lupe Fiasco - Food and Liquour
Bun B - Trill
Jay-Z - The Black Album
The Game - The Documentary
2Pac - Greatest Hits
Chamillionaire - Sound of Revenge
Nas - Illmatic
Young Jeezy - Trap or Die (Gangsta Grillz Edition)
The Game - Ghost Unit
Xzibit - Full Circle
J-Kwon - Hood Hop
Jim Jones - Seven Day Theory
Dr Dre - Tretox (It's problably an advance or bootlex version).


NOW, go on ! Talk trash that my rap taste sucks and I'm and idiot, I should kill myself and go listen to drum n' bass. I don't give a damn bout your complainings. So let's get it !
Young Jeezy - Can't Ban the Snowman
 
^ A little split personality thing going on there.

btw, lol @ J-Kwon.
 
<div class="quote_poster">P.A.P. Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Why do you even have that line in your sig?</div>

Cause I like it.
 
<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">And people say that I am a kid still, cuz the lil n**** still rides on big wheels</div>

I like Lil Wayne but I realize there are a lot of better rappers and I don't see how that is a standout line.
 
Do you understand what he is trying to say?

Its pretty clever imo, because of him applying big wheels as in rims, but big wheels are also refered to as a kids toy.
 
<div class="quote_poster">NTC187 Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Well I havent heard enough of him to comment, but he is definatley better than Lil' Wayne, thats for sure, lol.</div>

You should give Food & Liquor a listen then, very good album..there isn't really one bad song on that album.
 
I like Eminem, DMX, T.I., Chmmilionaire, Nas, Jay-Z, and E-40.
 
<div class="quote_poster">Smitty Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">You should give Food & Liquor a listen then, very good album..there isn't really one bad song on that album.</div>Yeah, it's a great album. Kick, Push and Tilted are the best from that album, and they're fabolous.


Just downloaded a Biggie album called "Ready to Die". It's an old album, but it looks pretty good. Maybe you guys could name Biggie's best album.
 

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