Notice Festus Ezeli Won't Be on Trail Blazers Next Season, According to Neil Olshey

[Scalma]

Beverley did just make first team nba defense so asking price has likely gone up.

Yeah and he's got a favorable contract as well.

 

[BigGameDamian]

Beverley did just make first team nba defense so asking price has likely gone up.

The Rockets don't want any of our crap. They are trying to get big name players like CP3, Blake Griffin, Melo. Players like that. The Blazers are building from the draft and staying young. Building with potential.

 

[Boob-No-More]

Beverley did just make first team nba defense so asking price has likely gone up.

Which explains why D'Antoni has no use for the guy.

BNM

 

[lawai'a]

The Rockets don't want any of our crap. They are trying to get big name players like CP3, Blake Griffin, Melo. Players like that. The Blazers are building from the draft and staying young. Building with potential.

ezeli's expiring contract brah, cap space they do want.

 

[Boob-No-More]

The Rockets don't want any of our crap. They are trying to get big name players like CP3, Blake Griffin, Melo. Players like that. The Blazers are building from the draft and staying young. Building with potential.

Rumor is they are clearing cap space for another run at Chris Bosh.

BNM

 

[Scalma]

The Rockets don't want any of our crap. They are trying to get big name players like CP3, Blake Griffin, Melo. Players like that. The Blazers are building from the draft and staying young. Building with potential.

And how do you think they acquire the cap space to sign those players?

 

[tlongII]

Rumor is they are clearing cap space for another run at Chris Bosh.

BNM

Bosh? Blood clot Bosh?

 

[Boob-No-More]

ezeli's expiring contract brah, cap space they do want.

According to the ESPN Trade Machine. Ezeli for Beverly straight up works (with the caveat that they still seem to be using 2016-17 salaries).

It gets us a defensive minded back up PG and helps HOU clear $6.7 million in cap space.

BNM

 

[Scalma]

According to the ESPN Trade Machine. Ezeli for Beverly straight up works (with the caveat that they still seem to be using 2016-17 salaries).

It gets us a defensive minded back up PG and helps HOU clear $6.7 million in cap space.

BNM

Would Houston be interested in a heavily protected first (plus Ezeli) for Beverley? Would Portland?

 

[Boob-No-More]

Bosh? Blood clot Bosh?

I was making fun of their last failed attempt to get Bosh. They gutted their roster to offer Bosh a max contract, he accepted and then pulled a DeAndre Jordan on them.

BNM

 

[Scalma]

How about Ryan Anderson? We all know Stotts would love him. It would then make it easier for us to trade Crabbe in another deal since his shooting would be replaced. Give Houston Meyers and Ezeli along with a pick. It would save them what, 10-11m?

 

[lawai'a]

Would Houston be interested in a heavily protected first (plus Ezeli) for Beverley? Would Portland?

the kine of 1st that is protected till it turns into a second moments before evaporating into the datasphere?

 

[tlongII]

I was making fun of their last failed attempt to get Bosh. They gutted their roster to offer Bosh a max contract, he accepted and then pulled a DeAndre Jordan on them.

BNM

Ahhh. Gotcha.

 

[OSUBlazerfan]

How about Ryan Anderson? We all know Stotts would love him. It would then make it easier for us to trade Crabbe in another deal since his shooting would be replaced. Give Houston Meyers and Ezeli along with a pick. It would save them what, 10-11m?

Think they value Anderson a lot

 

[Scalma]

Think they value Anderson a lot

Well if you believe Marc stein, he's on the block.

 

[Boob-No-More]

Would Houston be interested in a heavily protected first (plus Ezeli) for Beverley? Would Portland?

I'd start out with FEEC straight up for Pat Bev. If they balk, I'd throw in a top 45 protected future 2nd round pick. They purely looking for a salary dump, and won't be able to do better, in that regard, than FEEC.

Unless they include Pat Bev along with another contract they are trying to dump (Lou Williams or Ryan Anderson) to a team that's under under the cap far enough to absorb their contracts. Most teams that far under the cap are young rebuilding teams that are not likely to take on Ryan Anderson who is 29 and has 3 years and over $60 million left on his contract. Lou Williams is almost 31, but only has 1 year and $7 million left on his contract. So, they MIGHT be able to find a take for him + Pat Bev.

So, next question. Both FEEC for at Bev or FEEC for Lou Williams works. Which of the two would you rather have?

Personally, I'd take Pat Bev for his defense. The only way I'd take Lou Williams is if we can also move Allen Crabbe to some other team as a salary dump. Williams is a WAY better 6th man than Crabbe, and a LOT cheaper, but he's also 6 years older and would likely be a one year rental.

BNM

 

[Boob-No-More]

How about Ryan Anderson? We all know Stotts would love him. It would then make it easier for us to trade Crabbe in another deal since his shooting would be replaced. Give Houston Meyers and Ezeli along with a pick. It would save them what, 10-11m?

Didn't we just draft two power forwards? Anderson is a horrible defender, would be the oldest player on our roster and is owed over $60 million over the next three seasons.

Too old for our core and too expensive. He would make our cap/luxury tax hell situation even worse, and due to his complete lack of defense, not worth it.

BNM

 

[OSUBlazerfan]

I'd start out with FEEC straight up for Pat Bev. If they balk, I'd throw in a top 45 protected future 2nd round pick. They purely looking for a salary dump, and won't be able to do better, in that regard, than FEEC.

Unless they include Pat Bev along with another contract they are trying to dump (Lou Williams or Ryan Anderson) to a team that's under under the cap far enough to absorb their contracts. Most teams that far under the cap are young rebuilding teams that are not likely to take on Ryan Anderson who is 29 and has 3 years and over $60 million left on his contract. Lou Williams is almost 31, but only has 1 year and $7 million left on his contract. So, they MIGHT be able to find a take for him + Pat Bev.

So, next question. Both FEEC for at Bev or FEEC for Lou Williams works. Which of the two would you rather have?

Personally, I'd take Pat Bev for his defense. The only way I'd take Lou Williams is if we can also move Allen Crabbe to some other team as a salary dump. Williams is a WAY better 6th man than Crabbe, and a LOT cheaper, but he's also 6 years older and would likely be a one year rental.

BNM

Agreed. Lou Williams can create his own shot but he'd duplicate turner/crabbe. We don't have a PatBev.

 

[Scalma]

I'd start out with FEEC straight up for Pat Bev. If they balk, I'd throw in a top 45 protected future 2nd round pick. They purely looking for a salary dump, and won't be able to do better, in that regard, than FEEC.

Unless they include Pat Bev along with another contract they are trying to dump (Lou Williams or Ryan Anderson) to a team that's under under the cap far enough to absorb their contracts. Most teams that far under the cap are young rebuilding teams that are not likely to take on Ryan Anderson who is 29 and has 3 years and over $60 million left on his contract. Lou Williams is almost 31, but only has 1 year and $7 million left on his contract. So, they MIGHT be able to find a take for him + Pat Bev.

So, next question. Both FEEC for at Bev or FEEC for Lou Williams works. Which of the two would you rather have?

Personally, I'd take Pat Bev for his defense. The only way I'd take Lou Williams is if we can also move Allen Crabbe to some other team as a salary dump. Williams is a WAY better 6th man than Crabbe, and a LOT cheaper, but he's also 6 years older and would likely be a one year rental.

BNM

Pat bev all day. It would also allow McCollum to play off the ball with the second unit, and I also like how bev could theoretically play with either CJ or Dame. He might be a backup on paper, but could see starter type minutes, especially if we trade another wing.

 

[Scalma]

Didn't we just draft two power forwards? Anderson is a horrible defender, would be the oldest player on our roster and is owed over $60 million over the next three seasons.

Too old for our core and too expensive. He would make our cap/luxury tax hell situation even worse, and due to his complete lack of defense, not worth it.

BNM

Sure we drafted two bigs, but they're still rookies. I realize Andersons weaknesses but I also know he's one of the best shooters in the league and profiles well next to Nurkic. And he's only 29. Not that old.

 

[Boob-No-More]

Agreed. Lou Williams can create his own shot but he'd duplicate turner/crabbe. We don't have a PatBev.

Pat Bev for FEEC straight up makes the most sense for both teams - if HOU is indeed trying to move Pat Bev to clear cap space. Let the GMs figure our the details, swapping future 2nd round picks or whatever, but this is one of those trades that helps both teams get what they (supposedly) want/need.

BNM

 

[Scalma]

Imagine Olshey getting a first team all defender for Ezelis contract....lol

 

[Boob-No-More]

Sure we drafted two bigs, but they're still rookies. I realize Andersons weaknesses but I also know he's one of the best shooters in the league and profiles well next to Nurkic. And he's only 29. Not that old.

Two years older than the oldest member of our core, frequently injured and owed over $60 million over the next three seasons. No thanks.

We should be looking to dump bad contracts, not take on another one.

Do you really think it makes sense to add another $20+ million a year player to this roster at this point in time? He's not going to move the needle enough to matter. He won't get us any closer to catching GSW at any point in the next three years.

Give the minutes to the young guys and the save the $20+ million for Nurk's extension.

BNM

 

[lawai'a]

Pat Bev for FEEC straight up makes the most sense for both teams - if HOU is indeed trying to move Pat Bev to clear cap space. Let the GMs figure our the details, swapping future 2nd round picks or whatever, but this is one of those trades that helps both teams get what they (supposedly) want/need.

BNM

you failed to mention it freeing up the inclusion of Shabazz in the unannounced, yet inevitable PG13 trade. Indiana has been holding out for this!

 

[Scalma]

Two years older than the oldest member of our core, frequently injured and owed over $60 million over the next three seasons. No thanks.

We should be looking to dump bad contracts, not take on another one.

Do you really think it makes sense to add another $20+ million a year player to this roster at this point in time? He's not going to move the needle enough to matter. He won't get us any closer to catching GSW at any point in the next three years.

Give the minutes to the young guys and the save the $20+ million for Nurk's extension.

BNM

You're looking at this move in a vacuum. Other guys could get traded after we acquire Anderson. Crabbe would be expendable, with his shooting replaced. Guys like Davis, Aminu, and Harkless could be traded rather easily.

 

[Boob-No-More]

Imagine Olshey getting a first team all defender for Ezelis contract....lol

I'd love to see it happen and it has all the earmarks of an Olshey opportunistic move.

BNM

 

[Boob-No-More]

You're looking at this move in a vacuum. Other guys could get traded after we acquire Anderson. Crabbe would be expendable, with his shooting replaced. Guys like Davis, Aminu, and Harkless could be traded rather easily.

And you're talking about moving multiple players without taking on significant salary in return. Easier said than done.

As much as I think Crabbe is overpaid and 1-dimensional, at this point in time, if HOU offered me Ryan Anderson straight up for Allen Crabbe, I'd say no. The salaries match and Anderson is a better player - when healthy, but he's 4 years older and frequently injured. The ONLY way I'm taking on Anderson's contract at his age is if we are in win now mode. We are not.

BNM

 

[Boob-No-More]

you failed to mention it freeing up the inclusion of Shabazz in the unannounced, yet inevitable PG13 trade. Indiana has been holding out for this!

Well yeah, there is that...

BNM

 

[Scalma]

And you're talking about moving multiple players without taking on significant salary in return. Easier said than done.

As much as I think Crabbe is overpaid and 1-dimensional, at this point in time, if HOU offered me Ryan Anderson straight up for Allen Crabbe, I'd say no. The salaries match and Anderson is a better player - when healthy, but he's 4 years older and frequently injured. The ONLY way I'm taking on Anderson's contract at his age is if we are in win now mode. We are not.

BNM

Why wouldn't we be?? Because the Warriors are good? Dame is 27 years old. They better be in win mode. Or are we going to waste his prime, watch him sign elsewhere in three years, and then contend?

 

[Boob-No-More]

Why wouldn't we be?? Because the Warriors are good? Dame is 27 years old. They better be in win mode. Or are we going to waste his prime, watch him sign elsewhere in three years, and then contend?

The Warriors aren't just good. They may very well be the most dominant team in the history of the NBA. Adding Ryan Anderson to our roster does not change that.

Yes, Dame is 27 and JUST starting to enter his prime. The rest of our core are all younger. Realistically, our potential championship contention window is 3 - 5 years from now, when the rest of our core are entering their prime and the Warriors have declined due to age.

Three years from now, Dame will be 30 and still right smack in the middle of his prime. Smallish PGs that don't rely on great leaping ability tend to have extended careers. Chris Paul is every bit as good statistically at 32 as he was at 27. Tony Parker had three of the best years of his career in his early 30s. Isiah Thomas was an all star at 32.

Three years from now, Ryan Anderson will be 32. He'll still be injury prone and he still won't play defense. He'll also be in the last year of his contract about to become an unrestricted free agent. Adding Ryan Anderson doesn't help get us over the hump now, and having 32-year old Ryan Anderson on the roster three years from now will do nothing to help us re-sign Damian Lillard.

And, even if none of those things were true, why would HOU trade him to us in the next 4 days? They are looking to dump as much salary as possible before July 1. We're not under the cap. If they send us Ryan Anderson, we'd need to send them back just as much salary in return. Yes, we can give then FEEC, but that only saves them $6.7 million. They can get that same savings by trading Pat Bev straight up for FEEC and still have Anderson's $20 million a year contract to potentially trade to a team under the cap.

Ryan Anderson to POR does not make sense for either team. Patrick Beverly for FEEC makes sense for both teams.

BNM