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CupWizier said:
and you have seen Simons play how many times?
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Your right, he’s as good a prospect as JO was coming outta HS. That’s why he was so sought after yesterday. I’m just saying you are wrong, teams tried to pry JO away from us as soon as he became a Blazer. It didn’t take no 3 years, we finally just caved cause trader bob thought we were a Dale away from a chip.
 
LayneStaley said:
Your right, he’s as good a prospect as JO was coming outta HS. That’s why he was so sought after yesterday. I’m just saying you are wrong, teams tried to pry JO away from us as soon as he became a Blazer. It didn’t take no 3 years, we finally just caved cause trader bob thought we were a Dale away from a chip.
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That word play on fire
 
How much more damage will we permit Olshey to do before we storm his office and remove him from Oregon? Does anyone here have one of those lockable canopies on a pickup truck?
 
jlprk said:
How much more damage will we permit Olshey to do before we storm his office and remove him from Oregon? Does anyone here have one of those lockable canopies on a pickup truck?
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I'll get the pitchforks and torches.
 
Jade Falcon said:
I've seen his highlight clips of recent....he was going against tiny suburban white kids in some school gym somewhere, and barely beating them. I'm sure he's a great kid, but this was a pathetic pick by Olshey.
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Judgement based on a random YouTube video are the more accurate. Far better then seeing the guy live with other college players. You are right.
 
SwissBlazer said:
Judgement based on a random YouTube video are the more accurate. Far better then seeing the guy live with other college players. You are right.
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He would get killed going up against Senior College basketball players. Don't delude yourself, please.
 
Jade Falcon said:
He would get killed going up against Senior College basketball players. Don't delude yourself, please.
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Yet players who are top 10 in their class usually dominate at the college level. Why wouldnt his skills translate?
 
BonesJones said:
Which apparently didn't happen in his workouts...
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Indeed. The idea that Simons got torched by senior players during workouts but still got selected by Blazers is a far fetched one. He must have impressed.
 
Sarni said:
Indeed. The idea that Simons got torched by senior players during workouts but still got selected by Blazers is a far fetched one. He must have impressed.
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I'm pro-Olshey and pro-Simons, but to be fair, we do know that Neil brought in a bruising guard who backed Simons in like crazy. Quick (I think it was Quick) asked Olshey about it, and he said that the bruiser could back in just about anyone, he just wanted
to see if Simons would compete or "give up." Neil was apparently happy with the effort (the outcome was immaterial).
 
BonesJones said:
Yet players who are top 10 in their class usually dominate at the college level. Why wouldnt his skills translate?
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You're kidding me, right? Going from High School to ANY kind of college level basketball is like going from driving a Ford Fiesta to driving a Ferrari 458. And never mind going into the pros.....that's the equivalent of an F1 car.

BonesJones said:
Which apparently didn't happen in his workouts...
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Yes, because work outs should totally be placed in the same category as a full on professional basketball game.

Come on man. I know you're smarter than this, Bones. Why do you like this kid so much? And more importantly, how much longer are we willing to give Olshey a pass for stupid drafting, no moves in FA, and terrible contracts?
 
LayneStaley said:
Your right, he’s as good a prospect as JO was coming outta HS. That’s why he was so sought after yesterday. I’m just saying you are wrong, teams tried to pry JO away from us as soon as he became a Blazer. It didn’t take no 3 years, we finally just caved cause trader bob thought we were a Dale away from a chip.
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Is that what i said? Maybe a reading comprehension class is in order.
 
Jade Falcon said:
You're kidding me, right? Going from High School to ANY kind of college level basketball is like going from driving a Ford Fiesta to driving a Ferarri 458. And nevermind going into the pros.....that's the equivalent of an F1 car.



Yes, because work outs should totally be placed in the same category as a full on professional basketball game.

Come on man. I know you're smarter than this, Bones. Why do you like this kid so much? And more importantly, how much longer are we willing to give Olshey a pass for stupid drafting, no moves in FA, and terrible contracts?
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Better question, why do you hate him so much when you admit you have seen very little of him?
 
CupWizier said:
Better question, why do you hate him so much when you admit you have seen very little of him?
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I don't hate him. I hate the pick. We don't do well with projects of any sort, and he is a massive project.

And he's a fucking high school kid with no college experience. I shouldn't even have to justify my disdain for this pick based on that alone.
 
Olshey always does the very minimum job. He didn't trade up. He drafted a guard, the easiest position to find. He drafted a player who won't help for years. The word for anything Olshey does is "underwhelming." We could have no GM at all, and the clerks in his staff would get the same results.
 
jlprk said:
That's only 8 months ago. He grew at age 19? I stopped growing at age 16, like most boys.

Did he wear high heels again for the later measurement?
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When I graduated HS at 16, I was 5'10, 105. When entered the Academy at 20, I was 6'0, 135. When I graduated at 23, I was 6'1, 160.

Late bloomers bloom late.
 
Jade Falcon said:
I don't hate him. I hate the pick. We don't do well with projects of any sort, and he is a massive project.

And he's a fucking high school kid with no college experience. I shouldn't even have to justify my disdain for this pick based on that alone.
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All these kids drafted were once high school kids and many of them the same age. He has been ranked very high for his age group as well and a full scholarship offer to a top college program. Rather than whine so much, why don't you at least wait and see.
 
CupWizier said:
All these kids drafted were once high school kids and many of them the same age. He has been ranked very high for his age group as well and a full scholarship offer to a top college program. Rather than whine so much, why don't you at least wait and see.
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That's really all we can do. I mean, it's not like Olshey has another plan for our future.
 
Jade Falcon said:
That's really all we can do. I mean, it's not like Olshey has another plan for our future.
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You've spoke to Olshey? You seem to make a lot of claims with nothing to back it up. And if you agree that is all we can do then why do you whine so much about it?
 
jlprk said:
That's only 8 months ago. He grew at age 19? I stopped growing at age 16, like most boys.

Did he wear high heels again for the later measurement?
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I grew 4 inches......after high school! It's the females that have mostly stopped by 16.
 
CupWizier said:
You've spoke to Olshey? You seem to make a lot of claims with nothing to back it up. And if you agree that is all we can do then why do you whine so much about it?
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For the same reason you bitch and moan about Trump: entitlement. I'm entitled to an opinion, for the same reason you are. Olshey is a terrible GM, and we'll be better off the moment he's fired.
 
Jade Falcon said:
For the same reason you bitch and moan about Trump: entitlement. I'm entitled to an opinion, for the same reason you are. Olshey is a terrible GM, and we'll be better off the moment he's fired.
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Nice deflection. Differece is trump provides plenty of ammo to dispute where you just pull crap out of your ass and fabricate stuff to fuel your agenda.
 
Conventional wisdom is to not draft 2 players at the same position. Otherwise, you guarantee that one won't get a chance to play for years, which slows his development and clogs one valuable roster spot.

Olshey has now defied this wisdom for the 2nd year in a row (Simons-Trent, Collins-Swanigan). Before that, he did the same with McCollum-Crabbe, and you notice that both late bloomers took 3 years to show anything.

Drafting even a single guard, and not 2 guards, is also a wasted pick anyway...as long as Olshey keeps the overpaid McCollum, and Stotts' guard-oriented system plays starting guards an exhausting number of minutes. Bob Whitsitt would have tossed this late pick into a trade for an underrated 2nd-year forward already in the NBA.
 
BrianFromWA said:
When I graduated HS at 16, I was 5'10, 105. When entered the Academy at 20, I was 6'0, 135. When I graduated at 23, I was 6'1, 160.

Late bloomers bloom late.
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You call graduating from HS at 16 being a late bloomer! :)
 
CupWizier said:
Nice deflection. Differece is trump provides plenty of ammo to dispute where you just pull crap out of your ass and fabricate stuff to fuel your agenda.
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It wasn't a deflection. You've demonstrated nothing but immaturity and the emotional range of a child since we've met. You can't call someone out for whining when that's ALL you do in the OT. It doesn't work like that.

And you want to talk about ammunition.....take out Collins, and Nurk, and then tell me what improvements Olshey has made to this team in the past 3 years.
 
Jade Falcon said:
It wasn't a deflection. You've demonstrated nothing but immaturity and the emotional range of a child since we've met. You can't call someone out for whining when that's ALL you do in the OT. It doesn't work like that.

And you want to talk about ammunition.....take out Collins, and Nurk, and then tell me what improvements Olshey has made to this team in the past 3 years.
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Considering the tools he has had to work with he brought in Davis, Aminu, Harkless, Napier, Nurkic and Collins and had a team that had the 3rd best record in the west this past year. Sure you will comeback and say we failed in the playoffs, but 4 teams always fail in the first round and Spurs and OKC were 2 of them.
 
Jade Falcon said:
It wasn't a deflection. You've demonstrated nothing but immaturity and the emotional range of a child since we've met. You can't call someone out for whining when that's ALL you do in the OT. It doesn't work like that.

And you want to talk about ammunition.....take out Collins, and Nurk, and then tell me what improvements Olshey has made to this team in the past 3 years.
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Let me ask you this, would you have drafted Porter if we had a lottery pick?
 
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