Fire Stotts Eventually (1 Viewer)

[Natebishop3]

I'm not really sold that Simons needs to play. (Well, I guess he does because we have no other 3rd string PG. But it should be on emergency basis.)

Hood, Simons and Melo all need to be getting minutes around Trent.

Trent is being treated as just another guy coming off the bench, when in fact he should be clearly our 6th man, taking all the backup minutes at SF/SG possible, and ending games if he's out-playing Jones.

Agreed.

Hood looks awful on both ends.
Simons still looks like a massive project.
Melo's legacy must be protected!

 

[Pinwheel1]

I'm not really sold that Simons needs to play. (Well, I guess he does because we have no other 3rd string PG. But it should be on emergency basis.)

Hood, Simons and Melo all need to be getting minutes around Trent.

Trent is being treated as just another guy coming off the bench, when in fact he should be clearly our 6th man, taking all the backup minutes at SF/SG possible, and ending games if he's out-playing Jones.

I am fine with Simons not playing every game, even though he has looked much better this year. But injuries will occur so it would be nice to get him some minutes before the "emergency" occurs.

I agree that Trent needs to get his minutes, but he kind of is. He had 30 minutes in the last game even though he was not having a particularly good game. So I am not sure if it is true that he is being treated as just another guy off the bench. He has averaged 27.6 minutes in the last 5 games.

 

[wizenheimer]

well a 3 game winning streak helps. Stotts doesn't play though....he does shag rebounds

a point of reference: that 3 game winning streak came against teams with a combined 10-21 record. One team is in last place in the east and another is in last place in the west.

the next 8 games are by far, the easiest part of their schedule. The Blazers need to win 7 or 8 of those games to build a cushion. At the 18 game mark of the season, the Blazers will not have played a single game outside of their time zone; and will have played 12 of 18 games at home. They need to get in sync and build some momentum because the schedule gets a lot more difficult at the end of January

 

[Natebishop3]

The problem with Trent isn't so much the minutes.

It's the complete lack of getting him the ball in a successful situation. I have been seeing him handling the ball way too much. Why aren't we running him off screens and trying to find him open looks in a catch and shoot situation where he thrives?

 

[wizenheimer]

The problem with Trent isn't so much the minutes.

It's the complete lack of getting him the ball in a successful situation. I have been seeing him handling the ball way too much. Why aren't we running him off screens and trying to find him open looks in a catch and shoot situation where he thrives?

what's funny is that that tactic of running shooters around screens to create shooting space is still fairly remedial offense. But that seems to be too complex for the Portland offense a lot of the time which basically appears to be run the weave on the edge and see what dribbling lane opens up

 

[Natebishop3]

what's funny is that that tactic of running shooters around screens to create shooting space is still fairly remedial offense. But that seems to be too complex for the Portland offense a lot of the time which basically appears to be run the weave on the edge and see what dribbling lane opens up

The funny thing is that without Dame I think Stotts is fired four or five years ago.

Dame has been carrying him on his back since LMA left.

 

[tester551]

what's funny is that that tactic of running shooters around screens to create shooting space is still fairly remedial offense. But that seems to be too complex for the Portland offense a lot of the time which basically appears to be run the weave on the edge and see what dribbling lane opens up

In fairness, I have not seen the 'weave' play in the last 2 games (I catch ~90% of the game as I skip the commercials and free throw shooting & I'm too lazy to go back when I skip ahead too far). I think Stotts has FINALLY killed that play.

I also saw a new play during the last Kings game where the guard basically gets two screens - leaving a wide open lane to drive. They ran it ~10 times against the Kings. I don't remember seeing that play against the Raptors...

 

[Labinot41]

Keep moving those goal posts.
It's always the same thing with the Stotts haters. Right now a win streak isn't good enough. Of course right now the record isn't good enough. Injuries are always just an excuse. Lack of talent can never be the issue.
I got them at 10-10 to start this season given the circumstances. I'm going to be happy with anything better. As the talent around the league/conference sits i have the Blazers as a 5-8 seeded team. That is if Stotts coaches a good season and makes the playoffs. That puts them with a tough first round opponent against another good coach. We'll see how that works out for him.

I've seen 8 years of Stotts coaching, lack of Adjustments, ISO heavy offense, only one defensive scheme, that i couldn't care less about a winning streak against 3 bad teams.

 

[James lamphear]

How do you know what Jodi Allen knows about basketball? Paul was very close to her and had years to prepare for this time....he didn't get to where he did by leaving loose ends. We finally have a loyal staff and franchise stability....before Caleb Kanales we had an interim GM with Larry Miller doing two jobs and Chad standing in as GM......neither hired to be GM .....after Nate...we have had rock solid front office stability...any good business strives for that. What's not to like? All these folks are braving a pandemic to entertain us....I respect them and am grateful for basketball during our lockdown here. I think people just love to bitch about things they have no control over...people were ready to trade CJ and give his spot to Trent....ready to trade Kanter after two games.....this shit personally drives me nuts.

Well you don't neither if she know anything about the game. Yes she probably a good business woman due she very rich also. But right now she leaving up to olshey running basketball operation with his knowledge period. Yes one of those person thinks CJ should be traded due to him been one deminisonal type of player and yes he has been better this year in some areas but he will always have trouble defending taller due to his height. Do I hate CJ no but I think in my opinion to do get over the hump we have to be more team oriented on offense where everyone in involved not just two players that's shoot 60 percent of the time plus also be able to play the other end. Now Kanter he has his pros and cons but for being backup center he doing decent job there. That's my opinion some people thinks we can win championship with Dame and CJ that's 60 percent our offense my opinion we can't. Golden state try that for years with 2 guards doing that they didn't turn the organization around until one of the guard got traded and they changed the coach and I see the same with us. But that's my opinion.

 

[kjironman1]

I've seen 8 years of Stotts coaching, lack of Adjustments, ISO heavy offense, only one defensive scheme, that i couldn't care less about a winning streak against 3 bad teams.

Well this is a "Fire Stotts" thread so i guess i can expect that.

 

[calvin natt]

Gary Trent plays like he sees his sub checking in at the table for him every second. Like, I'm coming out, better get this last shot off.

 

[Tince]

Gary Trent plays like he sees his sub checking in at the table for him every second. Like, I'm coming out, better get this last shot off.

This is true. I don't believe he's ever been shy to shoot at any level.

 

[twobullz]

Gary Trent plays like he sees his sub checking in at the table for him every second. Like, I'm coming out, better get this last shot off.

See I think it is more like he thinks "Damn I haven't seen the ball in over 5 minutes. I need to get a shot up. I might not see the ball again this quarter"

 

[Wizard Mentor]

I think Trent finished the last, very tight, game.

I'm interested to see if this becomes a new trend.

 

[BonesJones]

"The right way" is defined as what? By who? The "right way" for one person might be very different than the "right way" another person.

Teams have won titles playing many different styles. Very few have won without at least a certain, definable amount of talent though.

Moving the ball, moving players off-ball, having a unique variation of sets to use in different situations, playing the right defensive scheme at the right times, executing said defensive schemes properly, having proper adjustability in general, etc.

Other teams have won playing other styles but we dont have LeBron or a generational talent. So we have to do the little things right to win it all.

 

[BonesJones]

Keep moving those goal posts.
It's always the same thing with the Stotts haters. Right now a win streak isn't good enough. Of course right now the record isn't good enough. Injuries are always just an excuse. Lack of talent can never be the issue.
I got them at 10-10 to start this season given the circumstances. I'm going to be happy with anything better. As the talent around the league/conference sits i have the Blazers as a 5-8 seeded team. That is if Stotts coaches a good season and makes the playoffs. That puts them with a tough first round opponent against another good coach. We'll see how that works out for him.

Heres the thing: my opinion isnt based on a 3 game sample size, it's based on a 5-year sample size. So a 3-game sample isnt gonna change it. Sorry.

 

[kjironman1]

Heres the thing: my opinion isnt based on a 3 game sample size, it's based on a 5-year sample size. So a 3-game sample isnt gonna change it. Sorry.

Like i said above. This is a "Fire Stotts" thread and actually i believe you are the OP from way back in 2016. I would not expect a three game sample size to change your opinion. Not even a good season or a deep playoff run because those have not either.
You been beating this drum for a while now. Eventually you will get your wish.

 

[mook]

It was a nice win against Sactown, but again Trent gets 23 minutes. He was +12 in that time (highest on the team). So it's not like the team was playing badly with him in there.

I wish a reporter would ask Stotts, "What did you see in Trent tonight that made you think playing Hood 10 minutes was a good idea? Do you think you were right? Do you think Trent playing 33 minutes instead of 23 minutes might have been a better decision? How about Melo? Do you think if you shifted 10 of his minutes to Trent it might have been a good idea?"

This shit is so infuriating.

 

[AldoTrapani]

It was a nice win against Sactown, but again Trent gets 23 minutes. He was +12 in that time (highest on the team). So it's not like the team was playing badly with him in there.

I wish a reporter would ask Stotts, "What did you see in Trent tonight that made you think playing Hood 10 minutes was a good idea? Do you think you were right? Do you think Trent playing 33 minutes instead of 23 minutes might have been a better decision? How about Melo? Do you think if you shifted 10 of his minutes to Trent it might have been a good idea?"

This shit is so infuriating.

I think their clearly trying to rehab Hood back into shape and get his confidence right. I agree he’s playing terrible and brings absolutely nothing right now but being a liability

 

[mook]

I think their clearly trying to rehab Hood back into shape and get his confidence right. I agree he’s playing terrible and brings absolutely nothing right now but being a liability

I think you're right.

But even so, management and the coach need to weigh the idea of recovering a 28 year old mediocre vet coming off a major injury vs properly developing a 22 year old stud. Throw Hood out there in garbage minutes.

 

[AldoTrapani]

I think you're right.

But even so, management and the coach need to weigh the idea of recovering a 28 year old mediocre vet coming off a major injury vs properly developing a 22 year old stud. Throw Hood out there in garbage minutes.

True

 

[blazerkor]

I think you're right.

But even so, management and the coach need to weigh the idea of recovering a 28 year old mediocre vet coming off a major injury vs properly developing a 22 year old stud. Throw Hood out there in garbage minutes.

I think at this point (and when others first said it I thought it was too cynical) there is a very real chance that they are limiting Gary's PT to lower his value so they can re-sign him for less in the off season.

 

[mook]

I think at this point (and when others first said it I thought it was too cynical) there is a very real chance that they are limiting Gary's PT to lower his value so they can re-sign him for less in the off season.

The only other thing I can think of is that the Blazers are trying to prepare for Covid to strike. If they keep Hood, Melo and Simmons all on the warmer it may be easier to give them major minutes if we get multiple players missing games. I would actually respect this strategy. I can kind of see why they wouldn't necessarily publicize it as well.

 

[royo]

The only other thing I can think of is that the Blazers are trying to prepare for Covid to strike. If they keep Hood, Melo and Simmons all on the warmer it may be easier to give them major minutes if we get multiple players missing games. I would actually respect this strategy. I can kind of see why they wouldn't necessarily publicize it as well.

You think that Vonleh is this "strategy" as well?

Edit. I missed the point by 180. My bad.

 

[Natebishop3]

I think they’re hoping Hood will return to form so they can start him over DJJ. But at this point I just don’t see it happening. Fortunately Rodney is making enough money that he’s nice trade filler.

 

[tlongII]

I think Hoodie will be alright. He just needs more time.

 

[Natebishop3]

I think Hoodie will be alright. He just needs more time.

We don’t have time for him to work through this. Stotts is clearly married to the Melo/Kanter lineup, which is bad enough, but you throw Hood in there and the second unit is giving up massive leads which the starters then have to come dig us out of.

We can play Melo without Kanter and Hood and be fine.

We can play Kanter without Melo or Hood and be fine.

We have a really hard time when we play all three of them together.

 

[Natebishop3]

DJJ is averaging about 27 minutes per game.
GTJ is averaging 24 minutes per game.
Hood is averaging 13 minutes per game.

Sorry but I'd rather see those 13 minutes split between DJJ and GTJ.

 

[Tince]

DJJ is averaging about 27 minutes per game.
GTJ is averaging 24 minutes per game.
Hood is averaging 13 minutes per game.

Sorry but I'd rather see those 13 minutes split between DJJ and GTJ.

I take it you're not big on signing Hood to a $21m deal?

 

[Natebishop3]