Fire Stotts Eventually (1 Viewer)

[Natebishop3]

I take it you're not big on signing Hood to a $21m deal?

At that time we didn't know how long it would take for him to get back to where he was, or if he even could get back to where he was.

At that time we didn't know how bad the second unit would be with Melo and Kanter.

There was no way to know how things would sort out, but in hind sight it definitely looks like a bad signing. With that said, maybe his big salary could help with a trade

 

[Pinwheel1]

The only other thing I can think of is that the Blazers are trying to prepare for Covid to strike. If they keep Hood, Melo and Simmons all on the warmer it may be easier to give them major minutes if we get multiple players missing games. I would actually respect this strategy. I can kind of see why they wouldn't necessarily publicize it as well.

I don't think there is any question that this has been considered. It seems inevitable that every team will be affected at least a little bit at some point in the season. (Other injuries as well) So the bench needs to be ready to step up. The deeper teams will benefit for sure. Tonight for example I would give Simons 10 minutes since Dame and CJ played heavy minutes last night.

 

[Natebishop3]

It's interesting because offensively Jones Jr is closer to Hood, but even he is outperforming Rodney.

 

[Tince]

At that time we didn't know how long it would take for him to get back to where he was, or if he even could get back to where he was.

At that time we didn't know how bad the second unit would be with Melo and Kanter.

There was no way to know how things would sort out, but in hind sight it definitely looks like a bad signing. With that said, maybe his big salary could help with a trade

There's a pretty good history on achilles injuries on how they impact most players, so Hoods play shouldn't be a big surprise to Portland. Hopefully he gets back to 90% of what he was, at some point.

 

[HailBlazers]

There's a pretty good history on achilles injuries on how they impact most players, so Hoods play shouldn't be a big surprise to Portland. Hopefully he gets back to 90% of what he was, at some point.

Seriously just a taad premature to be pulling stats for a guy coming off one of THE worst injuries.

 

[Natebishop3]

There's a pretty good history on achilles injuries on how they impact most players, so Hoods play shouldn't be a big surprise to Portland. Hopefully he gets back to 90% of what he was, at some point.

Seriously just a taad premature to be pulling stats for a guy coming off one of THE worst injuries.

Then don't play him. We can't afford to play a dude averaging less than a bucket a game on 20% shooting. Nobody expected Rodney to come out and be completely okay after that injury, but we're giving him pretty substantial minutes and he's yielding nothing. He isn't scoring. He isn't playing defense. He is basically a massive net negative right now on a second unit that already has another massive net negative.

I get that you guys are preaching patience but we can't afford to be patient with him. Sit his ass on the bench and let him get back into game shape in practice. We can't be playing wet nurse to him while that bench is giving up leads left and right.

 

[Wizard Mentor]

I think Hoodie will be alright. He just needs more time.

Agreed, but I think he needs practice, not games. Sit him for 20 games, then see if he's improved during practice.

 

[Wizard Mentor]

I take it you're not big on signing Hood to a $21m deal?

Personally, I think it was a loyalty thing. Neil is saying to the FA community "if you sign with us on the cheap, we'll do you right, come what may."

It's a really good strategy, but now that he is getting paid, he is no longer in our debt, and is therefore open to be traded.

That's my take, anyway.

 

[Pinwheel1]

Unless Hood is struggling physically then I don't think you bury him on the bench. Just bring him along slowly.
On the other hand, I want Trent's minutes to be up around 30 per game, so he could use Rodney's minutes.

Minutes are tough on all coaches. Lot of things to consider over a long season. We know Terry shortens the rotation late in the season. So now is the time to experiment with the bench.

 

[Tince]

Personally, I think it was a loyalty thing. Neil is saying to the FA community "if you sign with us on the cheap, we'll do you right, come what may."

It's a really good strategy, but now that he is getting paid, he is no longer in our debt, and is therefore open to be traded.

That's my take, anyway.

I said the night we signed him that almost certainly this was agreed on when he gave us a discount on the summer of 2019. Olshey had to keep his word in order to get future deals with agents.

 

[Wizard Mentor]

I said the night we signed him that almost certainly this was agreed on when he gave us a discount on the summer of 2019. Olshey had to keep his word in order to get future deals with agents.

Basically this.

I think most ignore the importance of GM and team reputation as well as market size when considering trades. Of course, it's more fun to ignore those things!

 

[HailBlazers]

Then don't play him. We can't afford to play a dude averaging less than a bucket a game on 20% shooting. Nobody expected Rodney to come out and be completely okay after that injury, but we're giving him pretty substantial minutes and he's yielding nothing. He isn't scoring. He isn't playing defense. He is basically a massive net negative right now on a second unit that already has another massive net negative.

I get that you guys are preaching patience but we can't afford to be patient with him. Sit his ass on the bench and let him get back into game shape in practice. We can't be playing wet nurse to him while that bench is giving up leads left and right.

What we can't afford as the PORTLAND trail blazers is being seen as anything but a loyal player first franchise.

 

[Natebishop3]

What we can't afford as the PORTLAND trail blazers is being seen as anything but a loyal player first franchise.

Do we really want a reputation for playing shitty players because we feel bad?

Nobody wants to play for a loser either.

 

[Tince]

Do we really want a reputation for playing shitty players because we feel bad?

Nobody wants to play for a loser either.

I think the issue is if you already have a hard time attracting talent to Portland (for various reasons), when you make an under-the-table deal with an agent, you better follow through, even if it no longer looks like a great deal.

 

[AldoTrapani]

There's a pretty good history on achilles injuries on how they impact most players, so Hoods play shouldn't be a big surprise to Portland. Hopefully he gets back to 90% of what he was, at some point.

Shit look at KD he looks better than ever

 

[AldoTrapani]

Then don't play him. We can't afford to play a dude averaging less than a bucket a game on 20% shooting. Nobody expected Rodney to come out and be completely okay after that injury, but we're giving him pretty substantial minutes and he's yielding nothing. He isn't scoring. He isn't playing defense. He is basically a massive net negative right now on a second unit that already has another massive net negative.

I get that you guys are preaching patience but we can't afford to be patient with him. Sit his ass on the bench and let him get back into game shape in practice. We can't be playing wet nurse to him while that bench is giving up leads left and right.

Man one thing players can’t complain about the blazers is it’s such a players friendly organization. Between Stotts I can’t see how players ever can say bad things about us lol..

Oh your coming off an Achilles injury and look worse than ever ? You’ll still get playing time. Simons your playing terrible all year don’t worry you’ll still play, guys that can’t shoot, don’t worry keep shooting you won’t get in trouble, can’t play defense? No problem you’ll still get playing time lol

 

[B-Roy]

It's not even a bad deal. It didn't cost us anything besides Jody's money. We didn't dip into any exceptions to sign him. We didn't even go into the lux tax to sign him. Plus his salary is big enough to be used in a deal (even though he technically has a no trade clause, I think he would waive it due to us even giving him the contract in the first place as a wink wink deal).

 

[Tince]

It's not even a bad deal. It didn't cost us anything besides Jody's money. We didn't dip into any exceptions to sign him. We didn't even go into the lux tax to sign him. Plus his salary is big enough to be used in a deal (even though he technically has a no trade clause, I think he would waive it due to us even giving him the contract in the first place as a wink wink deal).

I don't agree with this. We could've used the money to sign another player and/or have additional trade flexibility in season where we don't have to worry about going into the tax.

At face value, it's not a very good deal.

 

[Wizard Mentor]

I don't agree with this. We could've used the money to sign another player and/or have additional trade flexibility in season where we don't have to worry about going into the tax.

At face value, it's not a very good deal.

Or maybe we would have just given it to Melo. Hard to say.

 

[Tince]

Or maybe we would have just given it to Melo. Hard to say.

They couldn't have given Melo that much money, so I think we can rule that out.

 

[B-Roy]

I don't agree with this. We could've used the money to sign another player and/or have additional trade flexibility in season where we don't have to worry about going into the tax.

At face value, it's not a very good deal.

the difference is Hood vs a BAE player. Also I don’t think it should be understated how important having a sizable matching salary is.

 

[Tince]

the difference is Hood vs a BAE player. Also I don’t think it should be understated how important having a sizable matching salary is.

I'm glad you're happy with the deal!

 

[B-Roy]

I'm glad you're happy with the deal!

I don’t know where you got that I was happy with the deal. Just that it’s not as bad as you think it is.

 

[BoomChakaLaka]

It’s time....

how many time outs were called during that 29 or was it 31-6 run?

how many substitutions made during that stretch?

you can’t possibly tell me RoCo is playing anywhere near Melo’s play...

team plays soft; no defense and out-hustled in the first half of every game...

This is coaching. It’s time to fire Stotts!!

 

[OneSport3]

Watch Olshey give Stotts an extension because Nurkic got hurt again and say that Stotts hasn’t had a fair chance with a full and healthy roster.

 

[Natebishop3]

We have no offense. If our threes aren't hitting or teams trap Dame/CJ, we completely fall apart. This is the playoffs all over again.

Our defense is a fucking embarrassment.

Fire this man.

 

[PHXBlazer1]

We have no system..we just have enough talent to make the playoffs every year regardless..Terry knows this and knows how to play to Neil and Jody..he's a con man

 

[HolyBackboard]

Third straight game the team fell behind 20-ish points in the first-half ... it makes no sense to make a coaching move mid-season, but I am still ready for a change in the offseason.

I hated that it was against us, but damn it was refreshing watching the Pacers play defense tonight. Why does it feel like every damn game we're begging this team to get consistent stops?

 

[wizenheimer]

See I think it is more like he thinks "Damn I haven't seen the ball in over 5 minutes. I need to get a shot up. I might not see the ball again this quarter"

he has a much higher usage rate than RoCo or Jones

 

[Tince]

We have no system..we just have enough talent to make the playoffs every year regardless..Terry knows this and knows how to play to Neil and Jody..he's a con man

Olshey knows the second he fires Stotts that his clock will start ticking on being exposed for inability to build a championship roster. If Olshey thought firing Stotts would increase his job security, he undoubtedly would do just that.