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How good do you think Terry Stotts is a s a coach?

  • Top 5

    Votes: 9 5.8%

  • Top 10

    Votes: 44 28.6%

  • Top 20

    Votes: 35 22.7%

  • Needs to go!

    Votes: 51 33.1%

  • He's the very best!

    Votes: 2 1.3%

  • Lets hope he continues to improve.

    Votes: 13 8.4%
  • Total voters
    154
AmirIcon said:
Not really. I think we all acknowledge Stotts does better with a hurt roster than a complete and healthy one.
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No, that isn't really true. You might have to finds those posts sir.
 
julius said:
It's funny how there's a certain guy on twitter who seems to always think that every positive thing that happens to the Blazers is proof Stotts should be kept, and whenever something negative happens (like a loss) he'll compare the team to other teams.

One game where the team plays defense doesn't ignore the rest of the time.
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Well there's 10 guys on here that when we lose it's Stott's fault, and when we win it's in spite of Stott's.
 
THE HCP said:
Well there's 10 guys on here that when we lose it's Stott's fault, and when we win it's in spite of Stott's.
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There are tons of Warriors fans who go ape shit on Kerr whenever Steph has an off night because he wasnt put in a better position to be successful, and of course, they also think he sucks because he just has Steph to bail him out because he is so great. I suppose both could be true, but when Steph goes bananas, you dont hear about the coaches setting him up for that, so its a lose-lose for coaches.
 
Look, I've said before that coaches get WAY too much credit and WAY too much blame. I'm very big on having the credit and blame fall on the shoulders of the players at this level. Sure a new coach can come in a fire his team up for a few weeks/month, but ultimately it's on the players. I will say there are a special group of NBA coaches that I'm sure made a difference over a long haul, but at the end of the night, the level of talent thrown on the court is ultimately the deciding factor in my opinion.
 
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THE HCP said:
Look, I've said before that coaches get WAY too much credit and WAY too much blame. I'm very big on having the credit and blame fall on the shoulders of the players at this level. Sure a new coach can come in a fire his team up for a few weeks/month, but ultimately it's on the players. I will say there are a special group of NBA coaches that I'm sure made a difference over a long haul, but at the end of the night, the level of talent thrown on the court is the deciding factor in my opinion.
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That's true to an extent, but how can you not acknowledge that our offense (when healthy) is basically "here Dame and CJ, take this ball and go make something happen"
 
Natebishop3 said:
That's true to an extent, but how can you not acknowledge that our offense (when healthy) is basically "here Dame and CJ, take this ball and go make something happen"
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I never have ever said it isn't. Have you read that from me before?
 
THE HCP said:
I never have ever said it isn't. Have you read that from me before?
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Ok, so if you acknowledge that as a fact, and the coach is in charge of our offense, why is it not his fault when that offense gets completely shut down year after year in the playoffs? If it's not his fault, who's fault is it?
 
Natebishop3 said:
Ok, so if you acknowledge that as a fact, and the coach is in charge of our offense, why is it not his fault when that offense gets completely shut down year after year in the playoffs? If it's not his fault, who's fault is it?
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29 teams a year have their offense shut down in the playoffs. It's what happens. Players miss shots. What about the games in the playoffs when the O is clicking? Does the coach get credit? People on here direct their frustration to one source......it doesn't work that way. Many factors in failure and success in this game.
 
Watching last nights game and Kevin Harlen just gave Stotts credit for keeping things together even the roster have been completely decimated by injuries. there are some damn good coaches sitting under us in the standings, right? Pop, Kerr, Monty.....and if I'm not mistaken, those 3 teams have been pretty much at full strength.
Maybe he’s got a point.
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THE HCP said:
Watching last nights game and Kevin Harlen just gave Stotts credit for keeping things together even the roster have been completely decimated by injuries. there are some damn good coaches sitting under us in the standings, right? Pop, Kerr, Monty.....
Maybe he’s got a point.
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Man, what kind of drugs is AD on in that photo?
 
Natebishop3 said:
29 teams don't stick with the same coach for 9 years and run the same offense that gets repeatedly shut down in the same manner every single year.
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29 teams a year fail to complete their mission regardless. At the end of the year the brass and fans can decide where to lay the blame. I can think of a few Coach of the Year winners who got canned the fucking next season. So even the people voting for who the best coaches are don't have a fucking clue who is good or not. It's a crapshoot. Remember when Luke Walton was heading to the coaching HOF?
 
THE HCP said:
Watching last nights game and Kevin Harlen just gave Stotts credit for keeping things together even the roster have been completely decimated by injuries. there are some damn good coaches sitting under us in the standings, right? Pop, Kerr, Monty.....and if I'm not mistaken, those 3 teams have been pretty much at full strength.
Maybe he’s got a point.
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Oh, geez, AD's face ....
 
THE HCP said:
Watching last nights game and Kevin Harlen just gave Stotts credit for keeping things together even the roster have been completely decimated by injuries. there are some damn good coaches sitting under us in the standings, right? Pop, Kerr, Monty.....and if I'm not mistaken, those 3 teams have been pretty much at full strength.
Maybe he’s got a point.
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The team wasn't playing well when it was healthy. That argument doesn't hold water, but it's the same excuse every year.
 
Natebishop3 said:
The team wasn't playing well when it was healthy. That argument doesn't hold water, but it's the same excuse every year.
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Is there a possibility they hadn't built up chemistry yet? Was is the right mix of players. There are many factors like I said. Could it be he wasn't coaching them right, sure........BUT YOU HAVE TO ACKNOWLEDGE THE PLAYERS BARE SOME OF THE WEIGHT IN THIS.
 
THE HCP said:
Look, I've said before that coaches get WAY too much credit and WAY too much blame. I'm very big on having the credit and blame fall on the shoulders of the players at this level. Sure a new coach can come in a fire his team up for a few weeks/month, but ultimately it's on the players. I will say there are a special group of NBA coaches that I'm sure made a difference over a long haul, but at the end of the night, the level of talent thrown on the court is ultimately the deciding factor in my opinion.
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where would you rank terry among his peers, as per the poll question? if he's anything below top 5, he absolutely becomes replaceable. The only coaches who have been at their current jobs for a longer tenure are: Pop, Spo, Carlisle. Do you put Terry even CLOSE to those guys? the way you and others defend him is as if he's some genius who is gonna lead us to the promise land.

he has some strengths, but some very OBVIOUS flaws he has shown over his time here. i feel like some of you choose to pull wool over your eyes. For what purpose... i still have no idea. The guy has zero creativity on either end of the floor. You want him in charge of Dame's entire career and prime? We need to go all out to land the best players and coaches to maximize Dame's window NOW. Just because terry cna coach a team to the middle of the pack in the playoffs doesn't make him immune.
 
THE HCP said:
Is there a possibility they hadn't built up chemistry yet? Was is the right mix of players. There are many factors like I said. Could it be he wasn't coaching them right, sure........BUT YOU HAVE TO ACKNOWLEDGE THE PLAYERS BARE SOME OF THE WEIGHT IN THIS.
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obviously they do, but multiple teams this year have installed new coaches without replacing rosters and have had noticeable bumps in play from the start.
 
Looking at the standings.....are you telling me Tyrone GOD DAMN Lue is a better coach than Stotts? I mean REALLY? You put Stotts on the Clippers bench and they would still be succeeding. And the funny thing, they would still be a pretty good defensive team. And guess what, neither of those outcomes would be BECAUSE off him. Ty Lue on our bench and we would still be one of the worse defensive teams in the league. See how that works?
 
THE HCP said:
Looking at the standings.....are you telling me Tyrone GOD DAMN Lue is a better coach than Stotts? I mean REALLY? You put Stotts on the Clippers bench and they would still be succeeding. And the funny thing, they would still be a pretty good defensive team. And guess what, neither of those outcomes would be BECAUSE off him. Ty Lue on our bench and we would still be one of the worse defensive teams in the league. See how that works?
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whoop dee doo, we're 3 games above the 13th spot. Terry should get COY!
 
THE HCP said:
Is there a possibility they hadn't built up chemistry yet? Was is the right mix of players. There are many factors like I said. Could it be he wasn't coaching them right, sure........BUT YOU HAVE TO ACKNOWLEDGE THE PLAYERS BARE SOME OF THE WEIGHT IN THIS.
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Players are like children. They need structure. If they have no structure, we see chaos, which has become all too often with this team.

How many times have you seen Dame/CJ/Melo and even GTJ take a completely fucking awful shot with no repercussions from Terry? That kind of offense and defense without accountability is what's hurting this team. I have seen GTJ get the ball, run down the court, and try to attack the rim against three defenders. Passing isn't even a thought in his mind. CJ does this too. We have one of the most selfish teams I have ever seen. It was extremely refreshing yesterday to see the young guys playing unselfishly and putting out effort on both ends.

So I will say again, Terry allowing this behavior is one of his biggest flaws. It's like he's afraid to hold his players accountable for mistakes. We have horrible ball movement under Stotts, and whether that's on the players or not, Terry isn't doing anything to fix it.
 
Natebishop3 said:
The team wasn't playing well when it was healthy. That argument doesn't hold water, but it's the same excuse every year.
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The indiana game with their new coach and largely the same roster as year was eye opening. their new guy has completely unlocked Turner to be a front runner for DPOY. And he has made brogdan into a legitimate all star caliber player, and they're still missing a bunch of players. Like people do watch these games... right? While we keep blowing 20 pt leads while healthy to half the Bulls team?
 
illmatic99 said:
where would you rank terry among his peers, as per the poll question? if he's anything below top 5, he absolutely becomes replaceable. The only coaches who have been at their current jobs for a longer tenure are: Pop, Spo, Carlisle. Do you put Terry even CLOSE to those guys? the way you and others defend him is as if he's some genius who is gonna lead us to the promise land.

he has some strengths, but some very OBVIOUS flaws he has shown over his time here. i feel like some of you choose to pull wool over your eyes. For what purpose... i still have no idea. The guy has zero creativity on either end of the floor. You want him in charge of Dame's entire career and prime? We need to go all out to land the best players and coaches to maximize Dame's window NOW. Just because terry cna coach a team to the middle of the pack in the playoffs doesn't make him immune.
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See that's just it bro, I have never claimed him to be a "genius".
Never said he'd take us to the "promise land".
Now there is something to having a great relationship and chemistry with you franchise player that you have to factor in. There is a reason coaches don't stick around in some places and it's not the lack of coaching skills, but the people skills side of things.
I agree we do need to be getting the best coaches and players for Dame.
 
THE HCP said:
See that's just it bro, I have never claimed him to be a "genius".
Never said he'd take us to the "promise land".
Now there is something to having a great relationship and chemistry with you franchise player that you have to factor in. There is a reason coaches don't stick around in some places and it's not the lack of coaching skills, but the people skills side of things.
I agree we do need to be getting the best coaches and players for Dame.
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it's worth risking coaches hurting players' feelings if it means we don't have the 28th best defense in the league. Like what are we talking about here? these are professionals. Terry has himself mentioned that he doesn't hold his vets accountable and that it's not his style. maybe ruffling some feathers will make our defense the 25th best? that SHOULD BE worth considering.

wasting dame's prime here.
 
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THE HCP said:
Now there is something to having a great relationship and chemistry with you franchise player that you have to factor in.
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He has a great relationship with Dame and CJ because he lets them do whatever the fuck they want. They have free reign.
 
illmatic99 said:
obviously they do, but multiple teams this year have installed new coaches without replacing rosters and have had noticeable bumps in play from the start.
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Correct, that is usually what happens. Just like last night. Just like in Chicago the night after we fired Coach Nate. I think Thibideau and Stan Van Gundy also had their new teams playing at a higher level at first. But it ultimately comes down to the players and the talent level, no?
 
illmatic99 said:
whoop dee doo, we're 3 games above the 13th spot. Terry should get COY!
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I don't think anybody is saying that. I think we have teams below us with HALL OF FAME and up and coming coaching geniuses with healthy rosters that aren't doing as good a job as Stotts. Want to try and steal coaching legend Tyron Lue to lead us to your promise land?
 
illmatic99 said:
obviously they do, but multiple teams this year have installed new coaches without replacing rosters and have had noticeable bumps in play from the start.
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And some teams have HOF coaches playing like absolute shit. Miami and Dallas. It’s a weird year. It’s a players league.
 
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