Fire Stotts Eventually (3 Viewers)

[brooklynballer]

Stotts has been a head coach 2 other times. We've seen him coach with different rosters.

Yah and both times he was let go after two seasons. Not sure what Paul and Neil saw in this dipshit to give him an extension but his incompetent, Howdy Doody, Mr. Rogers-ass needs to be sent packing ASAP.

What’s the downside of firing him? They aren’t winning the championship this year with or without Stotts, so why keep him around? You could at least see what you have on your roster with a coaching change. Players are so underutilized in Stotts system it’s hard to know what their floor or ceiling is - especially those asked to plant themselves outside the 3-point line like flippin’ statues.

#FireStotts

 

[bobf]

Variance happens. If you overreact every time it does you will soon have a pile of suck and wonder what happened.

 

[Propagandist]

Bench - Is this coaching or roster? It's probably a bit of both but there's been guys like Vonleh, Will Barton, and Pat Connaughton that are being utilized better elsewhere.

Unbalanced rosters - Would winning more and playing better increase trade value? Of course, this is probably both too. The unbalanced rosters have proven they can win at a high level for stretches of the regular season (10-3 start this year, 13 game winning streak last year, Nurk Fever 20 games, and the 2nd half of the 2015-16 season).

Managing Payroll - Until this year I don't think they've been in the luxury tax at all under his tenure. The bad contracts of 2016 definitely put him in the position to have to cut salary though.

Attitude - No excuse for that, he's a smug jerk.

Not to be a smug jerk, but aren't you kind of a smug jerk? lol.

 

[hoopsjock]

Not to be a smug jerk, but aren't you kind of a smug jerk? lol.

If you knew me at all in person you would know that simply isn't true.

 

[Propagandist]

If you knew me at all in person you would know that simply isn't true.

I'm kidding with you anyway.

 

[Lanny]

I'll coach!

Why didn't you say so sooner?
Men, our prayers have been answered.

 

[stampedehero]

Heads have to roll, this is where it starts. He's never been a defensive coach, and his offense stagnates in the 4th quarter. He doesn't call timeouts to stop opponent runs and doesn't make any in game adjustments.

He needs to go. Now.

12/16/18 Prophetic Bro. Same opinion two years later, except for the Raptors win this week.

 

[BonesJones]

12/16/18 Prophetic Bro. Same opinion two years later, except for the Raptors win this week.

Im just a little less brash about it now haha

 

[kjironman1]

Danny Ainge?

Chauncey was always a very smart player, and a PG. The way he talks about the game he seems to know what he's doing. I also think he'd be aggressive, and it's the type of GM who could actually sell free agents.

Jeff Ayers fits this description pretty well also.

 

[kjironman1]

"It's just a tough stretch in the schedule. Everything is perfectly fine!"

So i guess Dame is the problem. Lillard Must Go!

 

[hoopsjock]

So i guess Dame is the problem. Lillard Must Go!

Not at all, just a little sick of how playing poorly as a team doesn't seem to bother or affect anyone.

Dame was always known for acting pretty calm win or lose but the last few years he gets a lot more "showy" when he hits a big shot. Sometimes I want to see a player mad or frustrated that they lost too.

 

[Orion Bailey]

Not at all, just a little sick of how playing poorly as a team doesn't seem to bother or affect anyone.

Dame was always known for acting pretty calm win or lose but the last few years he gets a lot more "showy" when he hits a big shot. Sometimes I want to see a player mad or frustrated that they lost too.

Id put cj, Meyers, turner and Stotts in that category too.

Harkless too.

Hell the whole team.

 

[kjironman1]

Not at all, just a little sick of how playing poorly as a team doesn't seem to bother or affect anyone.

Dame was always known for acting pretty calm win or lose but the last few years he gets a lot more "showy" when he hits a big shot. Sometimes I want to see a player mad or frustrated that they lost too.

The writing is on the wall. This team lacks talent. Lillard is good but he is not above being human.

 

[Orion Bailey]

The thing is like kj said, players stay if they have won, or if they think they can win.
When both phase out as not being realistic, almoat every player wants a new situation to either get that last big payday or win a ring. Both usually entail a move.

 

[kjironman1]

The thing is like kj said, players stay if they have won, or if they think they can win.
When both phase out as not being realistic, almoat every player wants a new situation to either get that last big payday or win a ring. Both usually entail a move.

Something has to happen to continue to give him hope. I can have a bad day at work. The crane can break down and kill my schedule. I can even lose a week because of another trade. But something has to go right. When it does i reschedule and rework my plan and then find a reason to keep going. Lillard is human just like the rest of us. We all have got to see progress and continuation. Life and situations change. Like i said Lillard is just another person trying to create the very best. Probably even more so than many.

 

[hoopsjock]

The writing is on the wall. This team lacks talent. Lillard is good but he is not above being human.

If it was truly just a lack of talent then we should be giving a ton of minutes to Simons, Trent, Baldwin, Layman, and Collins.

 

[Orion Bailey]

If it was truly just a lack of talent then we should be giving a ton of minutes to Simons, Trent, Baldwin, Layman, and Collins.

Some beleive this is a coaches choise and possibky a poor one.

 

[kjironman1]

If it was truly just a lack of talent then we should be giving a ton of minutes to Simons, Trent, Baldwin, Layman, and Collins.

You will get no argument from me on that. But that would be against the NBA standards. Can you imagine the outcry if Portland showed up at games and sat their best players? Seriously. It's not just Stotts. The NBA markets teams and Lillard/CJ/Nurk are part of the marketing plan. From a totally business objective Portland only has a couple players that sell tickets. Who wants to watch the Blazers in Oklahoma without Lillard vs Westbrook?

 

[kjironman1]

Some beleive this is a coaches choise and possibky a poor one.

NBA has some part of this decision. Remember the NBA is entertainment.

 

[hoopsjock]

You will get no argument from me on that. But that would be against the NBA standards. Can you imagine the outcry if Portland showed up at games and sat their best players? Seriously. It's not just Stotts. The NBA markets teams and Lillard/CJ/Nurk are part of the marketing plan. From a totally business objective Portland only has a couple players that sell tickets. Who wants to watch the Blazers in Oklahoma without Lillard vs Westbrook?

I'm not saying to bench Dame, CJ, or Nurk. The 5 I mentioned could be the 2nd unit. Until last game they had been awful for awhile so I'd rather play guys with potential over guys like Leonard, Turner, and Stauskas.

 

[kjironman1]

I'm not saying to bench Dame, CJ, or Nurk. The 5 I mentioned could be the 2nd unit. Until last game they had been awful for awhile so I'd rather play guys with potential over guys like Leonard, Turner, and Stauskas.

Collins is getting minutes. But sure lets see the second unit really be bad. That would get the fan base excited. I guess they would try hard.

 

[hoopsjock]

Collins is getting minutes. But sure lets see the second unit really be bad. That would get the fan base excited. I guess they would try hard.

LMAO, do you think the fan base is currently enjoying watching Evan Turner and Meyers Leonard?

 

[kjironman1]

LMAO, do you think the fan base is currently enjoying watching Evan Turner and Meyers Leonard?

Look i cannot debate the way the fan base feels. I also don't disagree with your premise at all. Play em.

But there is another point to be made. First off if you were at games you might be shocked at the size of Meyers Leonard's following at this point. Also like him or not when Evan Turner plays well he gives the Blazers the best chance to win over the likes of Baldwin and Trent or Simmons. What do you really want here? Do you want this team to tank or what? You can assume if they quit playing the best most experienced players they have essentially given up and don't want to stay in the mix for the playoffs. It's even you saying the most that Tanking at this point is "Pointless". The Team wants to sell tickets and the fans want the best players to play. That is fact. They win the most games playing the best players. The Team sells more tickets when the team wins. There is no Laughing your Ass Off about that. Those are simple truths that any sports entertainment industry must adhere to.

 

[hoopsjock]

Look i cannot debate the way the fan base feels. I also don't disagree with your premise at all. Play em.

But there is another point to be made. First off if you were at games you might be shocked at the size of Meyers Leonard's following at this point. Also like him or not when Evan Turner plays well he gives the Blazers the best chance to win over the likes of Baldwin and Trent or Simmons. What do you really want here? Do you want this team to tank or what? You can assume if they quit playing the best most experienced players they have essentially given up and don't want to stay in the mix for the playoffs. It's even you saying the most that Tanking at this point is "Pointless". The Team wants to sell tickets and the fans want the best players to play. That is fact. They win the most games playing the best players. The Team sells more tickets when the team wins. There is no Laughing your Ass Off about that. Those are simple truths that any sports entertainment industry must adhere to.

Turner does NOT give the Blazers the best chance to play well as long as Stotts is the coach and Dame is on the roster. When he plays with the starters he mostly just stands on the 3 point line which is the worst spot for him. At most in his current role he should be playing 12 minutes a game when Dame is off the court. Instead he's almost always the first on off the bench and almost always in the game during crunch time. Is it a coincidence that we've gotten off the a good start only to see substitutions kill our lead? Or is it a coincidence that by far the 2nd quarter is our worst quarter? Or that we've barely hung on to win games that should've been out away sooner?

As far as the tanking thing, I am very much against when people say "We should tank for Zion" and crap like that when we are too good to be that bad. It's like people think a team can just decide to tank and that's all you have to do. They have no plan on how to convince Dame to go along with it or anything like that. I'm not against tanking necessarily. In fact this year when Jimmy G got hurt for the 49ers I wanted them to lose every game. They won 5 straight games to end the year last year so instead of getting the 2nd pick they went to 9th and had to pay Jimmy G a ton of money for a few meaningless victories. I don't think you are giving fans enough credit to be able to determine that Turner is not part of the future and to see that playing Baldwin and Layman might be better long term. Also, I'd guess most fans would want to see the rookies get some run.

 

[kjironman1]

Turner does NOT give the Blazers the best chance to play well as long as Stotts is the coach and Dame is on the roster. When he plays with the starters he mostly just stands on the 3 point line which is the worst spot for him. At most in his current role he should be playing 12 minutes a game when Dame is off the court. Instead he's almost always the first on off the bench and almost always in the game during crunch time. Is it a coincidence that we've gotten off the a good start only to see substitutions kill our lead? Or is it a coincidence that by far the 2nd quarter is our worst quarter? Or that we've barely hung on to win games that should've been out away sooner?

As far as the tanking thing, I am very much against when people say "We should tank for Zion" and crap like that when we are too good to be that bad. It's like people think a team can just decide to tank and that's all you have to do. They have no plan on how to convince Dame to go along with it or anything like that. I'm not against tanking necessarily. In fact this year when Jimmy G got hurt for the 49ers I wanted them to lose every game. They won 5 straight games to end the year last year so instead of getting the 2nd pick they went to 9th and had to pay Jimmy G a ton of money for a few meaningless victories. I don't think you are giving fans enough credit to be able to determine that Turner is not part of the future and to see that playing Baldwin and Layman might be better long term. Also, I'd guess most fans would want to see the rookies get some run.

Well you can try playing Simmons or Baldwin or even Trent but I doubt you are gonna get much success. Not the Turnover is great but he has good games.
Seems to me like tanking ain’t gonna happen so that seems like a mute point.

 

[BonesJones]

Jeff Ayers fits this description pretty well also.

I think Chauncey has built a lot of connections that'd help him, and I think he'd be a good GM just by listening to him talk about what he'd value in terms of building and running a team.

 

[hoopsjock]

Well you can try playing Simmons or Baldwin or even Trent but I doubt you are gonna get much success. Not the Turnover is great but he has good games.
Seems to me like tanking ain’t gonna happen so that seems like a mute point.

Not sure why you keep bringing up tanking then.

 

[kjironman1]

Not sure why you keep bringing up tanking then.

Because you are talking about playing dudes that might not even be on a roster of some teams let alone playing major minutes.
That would be considered "Tanking" by most.

 

[Lanny]

Not at all, just a little sick of how playing poorly as a team doesn't seem to bother or affect anyone.

Dame was always known for acting pretty calm win or lose but the last few years he gets a lot more "showy" when he hits a big shot. Sometimes I want to see a player mad or frustrated that they lost too.

I'd say the offense was coming along okay. My only complaint is the Defense. Every time the opposition gets the ball I keep yelling at the TV "Okay, now we need a stop." and I'm frustrated with the result.

 

[Lanny]

Because you are talking about playing dudes that might not even be on a roster of some teams let alone playing major minutes.
That would be considered "Tanking" by most.

Give me an example.