Fire Stotts Eventually (5 Viewers)

[MickZagger]

Too many versitile players and not as many one dimensional ones like us?

We don’t have one dimensional players. Look up and down our roster and every player outside of our starting back court guys and Kanter are capable defenders or have been good defenders.

Stotts doesn’t prioritize defense. So we don’t have a scheme. Coaches like Thibodou, Stevens or Spoelstra wouldn’t have this team ranked close to last in all defensive metrics.

 

[wizenheimer]

We don’t have one dimensional players. Look up and down our roster and every player outside of our starting back court guys and Kanter are capable defenders or have been good defenders.

Melo and Simons are bad defenders

 

[Tince]

We don’t have one dimensional players. Look up and down our roster and every player outside of our starting back court guys and Kanter are capable defenders or have been good defenders.

Stotts doesn’t prioritize defense. So we don’t have a scheme. Coaches like Thibodou, Stevens or Spoelstra wouldn’t have this team ranked close to last in all defensive metrics.

Being a good defender doesn't exclude you from being one-dimensional. Boston and Stevens have had a bunch of talent at their disposal.

To say coach <x> would make us better at <y> might be true, it might not. Coach <x> might also make us worse at stat <z>.

 

[Tince]

Melo and Simons are bad defenders

Exactly, so outside of Dame, CJ, Kanter, Melo, and Ant (5 rotation players), we've got good defenders! One of the good defenders also happen to be an offensive liability.

Again, I don't want to bash our team (we don't suck), but to make Steven out to be some wizard with his multiple all-stars and two way players while saying Stotts is an idiot with 6 rotation players who are very limited on one end of the floor seems a bit silly.

 

[THE HCP]

Closely due to friends in Boston.

What have you heard about their mayor? Is their city safe, or ablaze?

 

[RoseCityRebel]

Oh I’m sorry, does Nurse have a single top 50 player on his roster? I’d say, without question, that he’s been overachieving with what he’s been given. Swap the coaches - Nurse for Stotts - who does better with their new team? Not even a question in my mind that Terry would be fired within a month.

Are you saying that Kyle Lowry and Pascal Siakim aren’t Top 50 players?

If so, that’s a stupid fucking post because they have both been All-Stars with Lowry having as many appearances as Dame.

 

[RoseCityRebel]

This lashing and flamming on players/coaches is a common thing. The more it's normalized, the more emboldened people will be to take it to the next level.



Nothing wrong with saying you don't think our schemes are good, or that player X is bad in the PnR. But the straight hateful comments are gross.

I’m positive some of those ghouls post on this board. One poster in particular can’t seem to go a day without having a meltdown about Stotts. His posts are insane.

 

[RoseCityRebel]

Meh. A death threat to me is someone saying they’re going to drive to your house and shoot you in the head. Posting in all caps LYNCH STOTTS is just stupid fans blowing off steam.

Well this is an unstable post from someone who spends his entire day posting about Terry Stotts.

 

[RoseCityRebel]

Backstory:
It's a 15-year-old kid from Nicaragua by the way. Used to be a fine kid but then has gotten caught up with saying anything on Twitter to get a reaction.

It's unacceptable and I and many other in the "Fire Stotts" crowd have spoken out against it. Started my stream by addressing it today.

Hey the kid was just blowing off steam according to the poster here with literally over 70,000 posts.

 

[RoseCityRebel]

Yeah grow the fuck up. Threats, even, hyperbole, are just fucking too stupid. Please put me on ignore. It doesn't take a sage to see that the timing of such "steam" is pretty bad. You stay ignored, as you have been since I got here. I have good taste, what can I say?

Haven’t been here long but deep-diving into Nate’s posting history he posts a lot of negative stuff. It’s a bummer to read as someone who just wants to enjoy the team for what it is.

 

[RoseCityRebel]

What's your point? If a coach with Steven's resume can be debated then there is no argument for Stotts to stay.

Also, Boston's fanbase expects championships from their teams. Not just making the playoffs.

What is Steven’s resume’? Three conference Finals in 8 years in a shitty Eastern Conference, but with a much better roster? He’s basically Stotts. The Celtics have won exactly one championship in 35 years, Ainge made that happen with the Garnett trade, and they aren’t winning one this year.

They’ve even been the #1 seed once and choked with HCA.

 

[RoseCityRebel]

Fun fact. Terry Stotts has three 50-win seasons as Blazer coach in 8 years. Brad Stevens has had two 50-win seasons in seven years.

Winning playoff rounds in the East is a joke. LeBron basically didn’t turn it up until the playoffs in those days the rest of the conference was so bad.

 

[Tince]

What is Steven’s resume’? Three conference Finals in 8 years in a shitty Eastern Conference, but with a much better roster? He’s basically Stotts. The Celtics have won exactly one championship in 35 years, Ainge made that happen with the Garnett trade, and they aren’t winning one this year.

They’ve even been the #1 seed once and choked with HCA.

3 HOF players in their prime, that's how you build a championship roster. Even Doc Rivers couldn't screw that up.

Add 2 more HOF players in their prime to Dame and our roster, I'd like our chances to contend!

 

[BonesJones]

3 HOF players in their prime, that's how you build a championship roster. Even Doc Rivers couldn't screw that up.

Add 2 more HOF players in their prime to Dame and our roster, I'd like our chances to contend!

Who has 3 HOF players in their prime?

 

[Tince]

Who has 3 HOF players in their prime?

The 2008 Boston Celtics

 

[BonesJones]

The 2008 Boston Celtics

Ah thought it was in relation to Stevens and was confused.

 

[kjironman1]

Need to pretty much just merge every thread into this one around here. Some 5-6 posters on every thread saying the exact same things.
It's really getting ridiculous. Pretty much read the first 4-5 words of a comment.... NEXT! lather rinse repeat.

 

[kjironman1]

Doesn't change the fact that it's true. It's been true for years. No reason to minimize it. Accept it. Stotts is an awful coach that needs to go.

No it isn't but that's your opinion and I can live with that. I certainly don't have to "Accept" your opinion as factual and I certainly have my own opinion on the matter.

 

[Hoopguru]

The 2008 Boston Celtics

And when they left they didnt get or do much with what they did get.

 

[wizenheimer]

Some 5-6 posters on every thread saying the exact same things.
It's really getting ridiculous. Pretty much read the first 4-5 words of a comment.... NEXT! lather rinse repeat.

every poster here repeats their favorite arguments. Frequent posters repeat their arguments frequently. I do it, you do it (and are doing it here), we all do it.

and, no matter which side of an argument you come down on, the other side is monotonously repeating stale, disproved arguments, while your side is righteously holding the line with impeccable objective logic

it's party time in the glass house for a flock of Cockatoos

 

[Natebishop3]

Well this is an unstable post from someone who spends his entire day posting about Terry Stotts.

Seems like you're the one having a meltdown about something that was said a week ago.

You okay man?

 

[Natebishop3]

Haven’t been here long but deep-diving into Nate’s posting history he posts a lot of negative stuff. It’s a bummer to read as someone who just wants to enjoy the team for what it is.

Holy shit! PapaG is back! I had no idea. Welcome back man.

 

[e_blazer]

every poster here repeats their favorite arguments. Frequent posters repeat their arguments frequently. I do it, you do it (and are doing it here), we all do it.

and, no matter which side of an argument you come down on, the other side is monotonously repeating stale, disproved arguments, while your side is righteously holding the line with impeccable objective logic

it's party time in the glass house for a flock of Cockatoos

Good points.

That said, the "Fire Stotts" stuff every single game is getting to be absurd, IMO. Even if one holds that opinion, there's no conceivable way he's getting fired right now with the team overachieving by most everyone's estimation, with Dame still in full support, and with Olshey's fate tied to Terry's. So why do people insist on posting the same rants over and over again in every single game thread? Beyond tiresome.

 

[Natebishop3]

Good points.

That said, the "Fire Stotts" stuff every single game is getting to be absurd, IMO. Even if one holds that opinion, there's no conceivable way he's getting fired right now with the team overachieving by most everyone's estimation, with Dame still in full support, and with Olshey's fate tied to Terry's. So why do people insist on posting the same rants over and over again in every single game thread? Beyond tiresome.

When Terry trots out four of our worst defenders at the same time, I'm going to say he needs to be fired. Mostly out of complete exasperation with his horrible rotations.

 

[Hoopguru]

As long as Jody and Bert have confidence in their employees performance as Im sure they they have and annual revue, Ill stay Neutral. And if I have concerns Ill question them. Their performance is measured with more criteria than winning the grand salami.

 

[kjironman1]

every poster here repeats their favorite arguments. Frequent posters repeat their arguments frequently. I do it, you do it (and are doing it here), we all do it.

and, no matter which side of an argument you come down on, the other side is monotonously repeating stale, disproved arguments, while your side is righteously holding the line with impeccable objective logic

it's party time in the glass house for a flock of Cockatoos

The comment wasn't about repeating arguments. The comment is about making every thread about the same thing. But of course you left that part out of your quote.
And no I do not repeat them frequently at all. Long ago i learned that is a dead end road. And no i was not doing it here. Matter of fact that is the first time i have ever said merge all the threads to this one. Maybe someone else has said that but i assure you it was not me.

 

[wizenheimer]

The comment wasn't about repeating arguments. The comment is about making every thread about the same thing. But of course you left that part out of your quote..

I did not...I quoted you directly about posters repeating the same arguments in many threads

 

[Natebishop3]

As long as Jody and Bert have confidence in their employees performance as Im sure they they have and annual revue, Ill stay Neutral. And if I have concerns Ill question them. Their performance is measured with more criteria than winning the grand salami.

As someone who has worked with some horrible coworkers that somehow stay employed, I find your way of thinking flawed

 

[blazerkor]

Good points.

That said, the "Fire Stotts" stuff every single game is getting to be absurd, IMO. Even if one holds that opinion, there's no conceivable way he's getting fired right now with the team overachieving by most everyone's estimation, with Dame still in full support, and with Olshey's fate tied to Terry's. So why do people insist on posting the same rants over and over again in every single game thread? Beyond tiresome.

I'm not arguing with you. I could imagine that it could be exhausting but I just think as fans of the team, a lot of people in here can't believe that we have a coach, that they don't like, that hasn't ever won a game after the second round and has been here nine years. That is without president in the NBA. So I can understand where they are coming from and... fire Olshey.

 

[blazerkor]

As long as Jody and Bert have confidence in their employees performance as Im sure they they have and annual revue, Ill stay Neutral. And if I have concerns Ill question them. Their performance is measured with more criteria than winning the grand salami.

If by "grand salami" you mean a game past the second round, you're obviously right because nine fucking years without a conference finals game won... that's a lot of leeway the organization has given Olshey and Stotts. Either the ownership is indifferent or they're indifferent.