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How good do you think Terry Stotts is a s a coach?

  • Top 5

    Votes: 9 5.8%

  • Top 10

    Votes: 44 28.6%

  • Top 20

    Votes: 35 22.7%

  • Needs to go!

    Votes: 51 33.1%

  • He's the very best!

    Votes: 2 1.3%

  • Lets hope he continues to improve.

    Votes: 13 8.4%
  • Total voters
    154
royo said:
Am callin you homer, bc you are one, bro;)

This you said: "These catch phrases are meaningless." And if we check it, only meaningless phrase goes from Kanter, which came in your post, not the post you quoted.

And, btw, I would put "slap you" in a green font, but I don't see this option on the screen;)
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Respect your opinion. Please come to my rescue in other threads where I'm not enough of a homer for some.

Kanter saying the Blazers coaching staff holds them accountable is meaningless (I agree), but other people saying it is meaningful (I disagree).

I'd still prefer you slap Kanter than me, since he said the meaningless phrase, not me.
 
HolyBackboard said:

74% of Blazer fans believe this is the best roster we've had since 2000. This is a damn good roster.
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Go find a way to take a poll across the entire NBA fan base and ask them where Portland's roster ranks in the West. Or go tweet at NBA experts and ask them that question. I think you'll find a much different result.

Blazer fans have thought we got a real shot a winning a title at least 7-8 seasons since I've been watching them. They've been wrong every time.
 
HolyBackboard said:

74% of Blazer fans believe this is the best roster we've had since 2000. This is a damn good roster.
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Take a look at what some non-Blazer fans thought to start the season:

https://www.google.com/search?q=2020 nba preseason predictions&rlz=1CAOTWH_enUS796US796&oq=2020&aqs=chrome.0.69i59j69i57j69i59j0i433j69i61j69i60j69i61j69i65.905j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

Spoiler: I was able to find one that had Portland 2nd in the West and he also had Stotts as COTY... and this writer happened to work in Portland and be friends with Dame. Probably just a coincidence though.
 
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Tince said:
Who's expectations and what are they?
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I think you and I are on the same page. My expectations are not realistic. My expectation is that we should in a nine year period of time make the finals or have a new coach. Some might say, "Shouldn't the roster dictate what the expectations on the coach are?" My answer is simple. Of course in a normal situation that should be the case but Terry's tenure is unprecedented.

However the fact is there is this one guy. This guy keeps saying that if the roster he put together is healthy it can beat anyone in the league. This guy acts like changing up similar role players is the same as the Lakers landing AD. If this guy believed in all of these rosters that he constantly touted as contenders were actually contenders, he should have fired the coach five or six years ago... but this guy didn't. So fire Olshey and then see what happens with Stotts after that (spoiler: I bet the next GM fires him).
 
I see Portland is right where they should be based on roster strength. Look at just the top duos: James-Davis, Booker-CP3, Jokic-Murray, Leonard-George, Gobert-Mitchell, then you get to Dame-?

Portland doesn't have a second all nba type player. Dame-Nurk? If that's your power couple you are fucked. Dame-CJ? It's a great shooting duo but that is it. Purely shooting.

Sure, Murray isn't having the type of year many thought he would but Jokic is better than Lillard, and by a sig. margin. When is the last time Jokic had a total shit game? Lillard has had a few where he didn't even show up, probably because of injury. But still...
 
Cugel said:
I see Portland is right where they should be based on roster strength. Look at just the top duos: James-Davis, Booker-CP3, Jokic-Murray, Leonard-George, Gobert-Mitchell, then you get to Dame-?

Portland doesn't have a second all nba type player. Dame-Nurk? If that's your power couple you are fucked. Dame-CJ? It's a great shooting duo but that is it. Purely shooting.

Sure, Murray isn't having the type of year many thought he would but Jokic is better than Lillard, and by a sig. margin. When is the last time Jokic had a total shit game? Lillard has had a few where he didn't even show up, probably because of injury. But still...
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Um, he had 14 points on 15 shots just the other night.

I wouldn't put Joker-Murray ahead of Dame and a healthy CJ. And if you do, consider that the Nuggets, with little injury issues all year, are .5 games better than Portland.

YES Portland hasn't won for shit against good teams, but that kind of implies the Nuggets have lost against sub .500 teams more.

Portland actually as a much better record than they deserve, and it's 100% due to Damian. They're being poorly coached and out hustled on a game by game basis. The simple fact they're 10 games above .500 is almost a miracle. If you put together the top 10 teams in the league (record wise), Portland would be 9th (only ahead of the Mavs). And honestly, while they are close to the Clippers, Nuggets, Lakers and Bucks record wise, they are clearly and undeniably the worst of that bunch. By a far margin. And it has little to do with the "top duo" aspect, as much as it has to do with the incredibly predictable offense, the lack of utilizing players abilities and defense that would make 3rd graders blush.

btw, what kind of year did people think Jamal would have?! He's averaging 21 points, shooting 48% from the floor and 41% from 3.

All of them are significant improvements from his career averages.
 
julius said:
Um, he had 14 points on 15 shots just the other night.

I wouldn't put Joker-Murray ahead of Dame and a healthy CJ. And if you do, consider that the Nuggets, with little injury issues all year, are .5 games better than Portland.

YES Portland hasn't won for shit against good teams, but that kind of implies the Nuggets have lost against sub .500 teams more.

Portland actually as a much better record than they deserve, and it's 100% due to Damian. They're being poorly coached and out hustled on a game by game basis. The simple fact they're 10 games above .500 is almost a miracle. If you put together the top 10 teams in the league (record wise), Portland would be 9th (only ahead of the Mavs). And honestly, while they are close to the Clippers, Nuggets, Lakers and Bucks record wise, they are clearly and undeniably the worst of that bunch. By a far margin. And it has little to do with the "top duo" aspect, as much as it has to do with the incredibly predictable offense, the lack of utilizing players abilities and defense that would make 3rd graders blush.

btw, what kind of year did people think Jamal would have?! He's averaging 21 points, shooting 48% from the floor and 41% from 3.

All of them are significant improvements from his career averages.
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Pdx is can beat anyone if they shoot a decent percentage. They live and die by the three.
 
Hoopguru said:
Pdx is can beat anyone if they shoot a decent percentage. They live and die by the three.
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Yep, and that would work significantly better IF and ONLY IF they played some fucking defense! It's so maddening.

I mean, we're talking historically bad defense...in a league where it's basically proven that you have to be top 10 defense to win a title (along with good offense).

Like, it's not rocket science Stotts....
 
yes but 7 rebounds and 7 assists. 14-7-7 is not a shit game, like going 4-20 with no boards and a couple assists. After bubble Murray I think lots were thinking all star game.
 
Cugel said:
I see Portland is right where they should be based on roster strength. Look at just the top duos: James-Davis, Booker-CP3, Jokic-Murray, Leonard-George, Gobert-Mitchell, then you get to Dame-?

Portland doesn't have a second all nba type player. Dame-Nurk? If that's your power couple you are fucked. Dame-CJ? It's a great shooting duo but that is it. Purely shooting.

Sure, Murray isn't having the type of year many thought he would but Jokic is better than Lillard, and by a sig. margin. When is the last time Jokic had a total shit game? Lillard has had a few where he didn't even show up, probably because of injury. But still...
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Man this place became a Nuggets fan fest!!
 
julius said:
Yep, and that would work significantly better IF and ONLY IF they played some fucking defense! It's so maddening.

I mean, we're talking historically bad defense...in a league where it's basically proven that you have to be top 10 defense to win a title (along with good offense).

Like, it's not rocket science Stotts....
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If CJ & Dame played aggressive defense all game they would be empty on offense. They could have the best D coach in the league and they wouldn't change the way they play, just my opinion.
 
julius said:
YES Portland hasn't won for shit against good teams, but that kind of implies the Nuggets have lost against sub .500 teams more.
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well, that's good news for Portland and bad news for Denver when they each face a lottery team in the playoffs

julius said:
Portland actually as a much better record than they deserve, and it's 100% due to Damian. They're being poorly coached and out hustled on a game by game basis. The simple fact they're 10 games above .500 is almost a miracle. If you put together the top 10 teams in the league (record wise), Portland would be 9th (only ahead of the Mavs). And honestly, while they are close to the Clippers, Nuggets, Lakers and Bucks record wise, they are clearly and undeniably the worst of that bunch. By a far margin. And it has little to do with the "top duo" aspect, as much as it has to do with the incredibly predictable offense, the lack of utilizing players abilities and defense that would make 3rd graders blush.
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clearly, you need a kingspeed filter on your posts
 
Hoopguru said:
If CJ & Dame played aggressive defense all game they would be empty on offense. They could have the best D coach in the league and they wouldn't change the way they play, just my opinion.
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You're so right. LeBron, Kawhi, PG13, CP3, Butler, AD, Giannis, Joker, Simmon, Bam, Jrue and a bunch of other two way players that aren't all nba types can do it but our guys can't. I guess you think our guys don't have the conditioning those other guys do. That's an empty and bogus point of view. It's not just your opinion because it's factually incorrect.
 
blazerkor said:
You're so right. LeBron, Kawhi, PG13, CP3, Butler, AD, Giannis, Joker, Simmon, Bam, Jrue and a bunch of other two way players that aren't all nba types can do it but our guys can't. I guess you think our guys don't have the conditioning those other guys do. That's an empty and bogus point of view. It's not just your opinion because it's factually incorrect.
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I said it wouldn't change the way they play, just my opinion and you come at me with my opinion is factually wrong and it's an empty bogus point of view, what an arrogant no it all response. I thought you were better and more respectful than that.
My opinion is we have two superb offensive players that are not great a D and they play to their strengths. Its ok to disagree just don't be such a jerk about it.
 
Tince said:
Poor Kerr. Gets artificially propped up as a great coach for having a ton of talent, and now is probably being unfairly as a horrible coach now that his talent level has dropped.
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That first championship team wasnt as talented as it seemed. Kerr maximized every player on the roster and developed an offense that you couldnt easily defend.
 
BonesJones said:
That first championship team wasnt as talented as it seemed. Kerr maximized every player on the roster and developed an offense that you couldnt easily defend.
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I like Kerr. Your story is possibly true, we'll never know.
 
BonesJones said:
That first championship team wasnt as talented as it seemed. Kerr maximized every player on the roster and developed an offense that you couldnt easily defend.
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We are going to find out just how good a coach he is now as he's got a decent team and nice mix of vets and young high draft picks. It takes a while for any team thats gone through some injuries and player changes to gel. I think he's a good coach but we will find out just how good he is in the next year or two. Unless he steps away which wouldn't surprise me either.
 
Hoopguru said:
If CJ & Dame played aggressive defense all game they would be empty on offense. They could have the best D coach in the league and they wouldn't change the way they play, just my opinion.
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I agree with you, if it means anything. Part of it is about energy expenditure on their parts, although I still think their defense is underrated by most people, especially analyticians. Dame's taken a number of big charges this year and is a lot harder to post up against than a guy his height should be. CJ always blocked more shots than a player with no size who plays no defense should and he gets some big steals, too. They pick their spots and seem to at least try to ratchet it up in crunch time.
 
I think every fan base is overly critical of their own team with the exception of the Yankees, Lakers, and, maybe now the Patriots. Yankees and Lakers fans don't complain about their players. They get on internet forums and sports talk radio about which player they're going to add for essentially no compensation.

"I think we can get Memphis to trade us Morant for Caruso and a conditional second. They won't be able to afford to keep him. Have LeBron put out feelers. He'll pressure the Griz to trade him to the Lakers."

Oh, yeah, and Penguins fans ... they just blame everything wrong with their team on some global sports conspiracy against Pittsburgh.
 
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