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and good people with guns sometimes have evil kids who take their guns to school....I've lived in a country where guns are illegal and this shit never happens there....not a coincidence..

That isn't the guns fault. That's poor parenting

Why wasn't it locked up?

Why do you have a gun in the house period if you have a child with mental issues? IF you didn't previously know your child had signs of issues, how engaged with your child are you?

Sorry River. We must put responsibility and blamer where it truly lies and not find some scapegoat for inexcusable decision making.
 
Anybody got any serious objections to banning assault weapons? Give me one good reason that things like the AR-15 are legal.

Not my job to teach you US History, why you are free to speak, travel, own property, vote...

Sad you're so intellectually lazy you haven't researched it before making silly comments.

An indictment of public schooling that adult citizens don't have a clue why they are "allowed" to be free.
 
That isn't the guns fault. That's poor parenting

Why wasn't it locked up?

Why do you have a gun in the house period if you have a child with mental issues? IF you didn't previously know your child had signs of issues, how engaged with your child are you?

Sorry River. We must put responsibility and blamer where it truly lies and not find some scapegoat for inexcusable decision making.
why does it need to be a scapegoat....it's a safeguard ....kids do dumb shit...mental illness is many things....rage is rage...these things are case by case but access to a weapon that can take out 17 high school classmates in short order can be addressed....have that conversation...
 
you really like to speechify.....clue...you don't know a hell of a lot about people or their experiences, wisdom or intention but I understand at your age it seems good to bark at the elderly here...woof
That’s funny because I actually have a personal story regarding mental illness that ended in my girlfriends brothers death because her mom shot him. It’s called psychosis. I ended up understanding a lot about mental illness from that day forward and that was two years ago but yeah my age, hmmm never experienced a thing...
 
why does it need to be a scapegoat....it's a safeguard ....kids do dumb shit...mental illness is many things....rage is rage...these things are case by case but access to a weapon that can take out 17 high school classmates in short order can be addressed....have that conversation...
You have access to a vehicle which can kill a shit ton of people. You also have access to many other things that could kill a handful of people if you chose to go that route. But yeah, guns...
 
You have access to a vehicle which can kill a shit ton of people. You also have access to many other things that could kill a handful of people if you chose to go that route. But yeah, guns...
yeah...I'm retirement age...never needed to kill anyone and I own guns...owned many cars...never thought about killing anyone...for a disturbed kid to go into a rage and not be able to go home and get a gun from dad's closet is a safeguard....my wife is from a country with gun laws and this doesn't happen there...ever....there are murders but not mass murders....it's demonstrable whether you subscribe to it or not....law enforcement professionals should have the guns...I don't care to debate this issue...I don't think guns stop gun violence period
 
why does it need to be a scapegoat....it's a safeguard ....kids do dumb shit...mental illness is many things....rage is rage...these things are case by case but access to a weapon that can take out 17 high school classmates in short order can be addressed....have that conversation...

He could have done the exact same damage with a sharpened stick.
 
He could have done the exact same damage with a sharpened stick.
yeah...lot of those mass murders going around eh.....fact is countries with strict gun laws do not have these high school, church, concert, mass murders..and we have lots of them....you can say your guns will stop those things and keep you free...I'm saying you really don't need them and you're probably safer without them in the long run..
 
yeah...I'm retirement age...never needed to kill anyone and I own guns...owned many cars...never thought about killing anyone...for a disturbed kid to go into a rage and not be able to go home and get a gun from dad's closet is a safeguard....my wife is from a country with gun laws and this doesn't happen there...ever....there are murders but not mass murders....it's demonstrable whether you subscribe to it or not....law enforcement professionals should have the guns...I don't care to debate this issue...I don't think guns stop gun violence period
I’m just saying you have access to a vehicle which can kill a handful of people. You can turn a lot of things into a murder weapon. Ban it all then. “Go into a rage”. Yeah I mean okay sure he went into a rage. Educate yourself on mental illness then come back to me
 
yeah...lot of those mass murders going around eh.....fact is countries with strict gun laws do not have these high school, church, concert, mass murders..and we have lots of them....you can say your guns will stop those things and keep you free...I'm saying you really don't need them and you're probably safer without them in the long run..
Right instead you have knife attacks and vehicle attacks from terrorism in these countries you speak of. The UK and europe.
 
Educate yourself on mental illness then come back to me
we're done here....lecture someone else with your gems of awareness.....I'm not interested...this is me coming back to you...later kid
 
we're done here....lecture someone else with your gems of awareness.....I'm not interested...this is me coming back to you...later kid
You must of not of seen my personal story above. That’s okay though I would hate being an ignorant old fuck too
 
Evil kids? hmmm it seems you have thrown out the idea of mental illness entirely

Why take this stance if you aren't willing to take away guns from the mentally ill?

MFs always talk about mental health as the problem but don't bring one solution.

Well, stop talking about mental health being a problem if you think they should still have access to guns.
 
Why take this stance if you aren't willing to take away guns from the mentally ill?

MFs always talk about mental health as the problem but don't bring one solution.

Well, stop talking about mental health being a problem if you think they should still have access to guns.
I never said mentally ill people should have access to guns
 
I’m just saying you have access to a vehicle which can kill a handful of people. You can turn a lot of things into a murder weapon. Ban it all then. “Go into a rage”. Yeah I mean okay sure he went into a rage. Educate yourself on mental illness then come back to me

Again, it's easy to point out the problem. What's your solution???

I'm SO TIRED of hearing people whine about mental illness without talking about taking away their guns.

You can't have a firearm if you have a restraining order but you can have one if you're mental...
 
yeah...lot of those mass murders going around eh.....fact is countries with strict gun laws do not have these high school, church, concert, mass murders..and we have lots of them....you can say your guns will stop those things and keep you free...I'm saying you really don't need them and you're probably safer without them in the long run..

There is nothing factual about your statement.

The opposite is fact.

Visit Honduras. I dare you.
 
There is nothing factual about your statement.
You must get that a lot....sensationalize....I remember the Taipei metro incident...he killed 4 people...take you long to dig that up?
 
What say you then? Go on record.
Go on record? Lol. Stricter background checks. I don’t give a fuck about an AR being available to people. That can be taken away for all i care. That’s my stance on the gun issue. What I’m saying is there is a mental health issue and that’s the bigger problem here. Doesn’t take a genius to see all the homeless people around talking to themselves to figure that out. Also undiagnosed people. Antidepressants can also cause mental health issues.
 
What say you then? Go on record.

"Access" is a useless and meaningless term in a free society.

Anyone can steal a gun, no matter how many laws you make.

Anyone can buy a gun, no matter how many laws you make.

There is no possibility that you can remove a majority of current guns from America, no matter how many laws you make.

Literally all mass murderers are mentally ill, and we can at least agree none of them are concerned about obeying the law.

Gun control is 100% about disarming those Real Americans who would stand up to prevent a coup of our country. Nothing else.
 
Gun control is 100% about disarming those Real Americans who would stand up to prevent a coup of our country. Nothing else.
bullshit....serious bullshit...from a real American...
 
Unlike your posts though, mine are easily proven.
Check out Costa Rica's gun laws and the Nobel Peace prize they won in the 80s....I lived 20 years in Taiwan and it's one of the safest countries on earth...you think you know about that? You probably don't....demonstrable success...your freedoms didn't save 17 high school kids tonight..
 
Well, a Gun free zone is an inviting place for an amateur hell bent on mayhem to enter with the intent of injuring as many as possible.
I wonder how many times it will happen before we put some armed people in these places to make it much less inviting to the amateur, hell bent on evil?
 
There are a lot of troubled kids. Most don't shoot up the place. For that they need assault weapons.

Trump pretends to think & pray. I doubt he ever does either.
Guns have been around before America. Hard to blame guns for the sudden rise. Must be something else.
 
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