Frank Ntilikina?

[Rastapopoulos]

The Knicks got Dennis Smith in the Porzingis trade, and just handed a big (although short) contract to Elfrid Payton, so what about Frank Ntilikina? He looked really good for France in the FIBA World Cup, so it looked unlikely that the Knicks would shop him, but then again (a) they are the Knicks (who thought they'd trade Porzingis?) and (b) he was drafted by Phil Jackson specifically because he'd be good in the triangle, and pretty much all other traces of PJ's tenure have been erased. (Also, according to the Detroit Free Press the Pistons are after him.)

We've just seen how egregious our perimeter defense is, and with Dame, CJ and Simons as our top 3 guards, it's not really a big surprise. I think Ntilikina would actually complement any one of those three perfectly - he's big enough to guard the SG, he's got PG skills and he can defend - he's like what we hoped Evan Turner would be. I'd certainly be willing to give up Gary Trent and Nassir Little for him, or Rodney Hood even - anyone with me?

Check out what he did to Kemba Walker this Summer:

 

[Sarni]

Wouldn’t give up Hood as that would leave us extremely thin at small forward. However I doubt Knicks would be want him anyway.

I would give up someone who can match salaries (he was no. 8 pick so he’s on considerable amount of money) and a heavily protected first (like top 25 for two years, conveys into a second rounder) which is possibly as much as Knicks can get anyway.

 

[Paine Tablet]

I'll stick with the American, Nassir Little. He has far greater potential.

 

[3RA1N1AC]

I tried thinking about this, but I don’t know how to pronounce his name, so in my head, it was like “should the blazers acquire ol’ what’s his name?”

and the answer to that, is always maybe.

 

[BonesJones]

Rodney Hood for this guy? No thanks.

We can't even trade Hood until December.

 

[BonesJones]

Making a trade because of two preseason games would be silly.

 

[PtldPlatypus]

Making a trade because of two preseason games would be silly.

Frank was also showing out pretty well at FIBA iirc.

I wouldn't be opposed to acquiring him, but I dont see a way (right now) without giving up more than I want to risk.

 

[Rastapopoulos]

Making a trade because of two preseason games would be silly.

Agreed. I've wanted Ntilikina for a couple of years.

 

[GDiama]

Ntilikina is a basketball player that can contribute right away to a good team, he will make important plays and will do things that don't show on statsheet. He cannot put up those empty stats that a circus team like Knicks wants so sooner or later they will start shopping him as he will not perform up to their "standards". Maybe he can be had cheap enough, but it's bad we don't have 2nd round picks left so nothing really that would interest them and I don't think we are willing to part with our young guys. Unless they want Trent.
I'd take Ntilikina in a heartbeat over a guy like Hezonja though.

 

[Pinwheel1]

Ntilikina is a basketball player that can contribute right away to a good team, he will make important plays and will do things that don't show on statsheet. He cannot put up those empty stats that a circus team like Knicks wants so sooner or later they will start shopping him as he will not perform up to their "standards". Maybe he can be had cheap enough, but it's bad we don't have 2nd round picks left so nothing really that would interest them and I don't think we are willing to part with our young guys. Unless they want Trent.
I'd take Ntilikina in a heartbeat over a guy like Hezonja though.

I would rather have Herzonia in the game with our guards who can shoot 3's, than Ntilikina in there with forwards who can't shoot 3's. We are talking about a Terry Stotts offense.

 

[GDiama]

I would rather have Herzonia in the game with our guards who can shoot 3's, than Ntilikina in there with forwards who can't shoot 3's. We are talking about a Terry Stotts offense.

I don't think Hezonja makes any positive impact anyway,so I prefer whom I believe can become a better basketball player.

 

[Scalma]

I don’t dislike him but I don’t really see how he’d fit.

 

[Rastapopoulos]

I don’t dislike him but I don’t really see how he’d fit.

Everything Evan Turner was supposed to do? He actually does. He can guard 1-3. He's 6'6" with a wingspan over 7'.

 

[Scalma]

Everything Evan Turner was supposed to do? He actually does. He can guard 1-3. He's 6'6" with a wingspan over 7'.

That’s what Hezonja is for and I’d rather give him minutes.

 

[Rastapopoulos]

That’s what Hezonja is for and I’d rather give him minutes.

I have my hopes for Hezonja, but he doesn't strike me as having the same BBIQ as Ntilikina. Or defensive skills: I believe Kemba Walker would destroy Mario if he tried to guard him.

 

[Scalma]

I have my hopes for Hezonja, but he doesn't strike me as having the same BBIQ as Ntilikina. Or defensive skills: I believe Kemba Walker would destroy Mario if he tried to guard him.

Now imagine Kemba guarding Hezonja.

And just because Hezonja is the “point guard” on offense doesn’t mean he guards the opposing teams point guard on the other end.

 

[Pinwheel1]

I have my hopes for Hezonja, but he doesn't strike me as having the same BBIQ as Ntilikina. Or defensive skills: I believe Kemba Walker would destroy Mario if he tried to guard him.

True Mario can not guard quick PGs. On the other hand I doubt Ntilkina at 200 lbs can guard many PFs.
I would love to have him as a back up PG, but I would not trade Herzonia for him. We already lack players in the 6'8 220-230 range. Not giving him up for the Knicks 5th string PG.

https://www.espn.com/nba/team/depth/_/name/ny/new-york-knicks

 

[GDiama]

Haha I feel the answer to every deficiency this team has is Hezonja! Boy we got the new king now that LeBron's end is coming closer.

 

[Rastapopoulos]

Played 3 minutes today in a loss. GIVE HIM TO US NEW YORK!

 

[Rastapopoulos]

GET US NTILIKINA NEIL

https://nypost.com/2019/10/26/point...ld-in-fourth-in-embarrassing-loss-to-celtics/

 

[Rastapopoulos]

 

[tester551]

Think the Knicks would give him up for CJ? Maybe bring the Bulls in too...

Portland
CJ + Bazemore + Tolliver + 2nd -> Frank + Morris + Porter Jr.

NYK
Frank + Morris + Gibson + 2nd -> CJ + Tolliver + Harrison

Chicago
Porter Jr + Harrison -> Bazemore + Gibson + (2) 2nds

 

[BonesJones]

5.2ppg
3.3apg
36.1 FG%
32.1 3P%

I get he's a good defender, but that's all he is.

 

[Rastapopoulos]

 

[GDiama]

5.2ppg
3.3apg
36.1 FG%
32.1 3P%

I get he's a good defender, but that's all he is.

It's more about the potential and things that don't show in the stat sheet than the actual numbers. I'm 100% sure if he was a Blazer we would love him and some people here would even declare him untouchable etc. Like they did last season with Zach or Simons. He is in the most problematic environment in entire league with a coach that rotates between 3 point guards when they are all healthy. Not really a place you can succeed, but he has shown big improvement now that they start him. And most importantly for me he showed that he can be an important part of a good team like French NT.

 

[KingSpeed]

Ntlikina is good with potential to be better. I'd love him on our team. He could be our backup PG like Greg Anthony was.

 

[BonesJones]

It's more about the potential and things that don't show in the stat sheet than the actual numbers. I'm 100% sure if he was a Blazer we would love him and some people here would even declare him untouchable etc. Like they did last season with Zach or Simons. He is in the most problematic environment in entire league with a coach that rotates between 3 point guards when they are all healthy. Not really a place you can succeed, but he has shown big improvement now that they start him. And most importantly for me he showed that he can be an important part of a good team like French NT.

Never heard of someone shooting 36% from the field in his 3rd season being called untouchable.

 

[BonesJones]

It's more about the potential and things that don't show in the stat sheet than the actual numbers. I'm 100% sure if he was a Blazer we would love him and some people here would even declare him untouchable etc. Like they did last season with Zach or Simons. He is in the most problematic environment in entire league with a coach that rotates between 3 point guards when they are all healthy. Not really a place you can succeed, but he has shown big improvement now that they start him. And most importantly for me he showed that he can be an important part of a good team like French NT.

"Most problematic environment in the league".

Thats what I was told about Hezonja, too. "Wait till he gets in a different environment!"