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CupWizier said:
I love the phrase when someone uses "learn the CBA, and then post" when they are wrong. Go check your "facts". :bgrin:
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I'm happy to admit I'm wrong if you can show me where, but knowing you from your olive days, you'll either ignore the subject, find some small semantic to argue for a month, or pull the ol' why should I do your homework for you crap.
Or, you can say you're wrong?
 
David West, Beasley, Trevor Booker or Montrezi Harrell?

Davis West would be a nice replacement for Ed Davis.
I suppose Id take Beasley next then Harrell.
 
Hoopguru said:
David West, Beasley, Trevor Booker or Montrezi Harrell?

Davis West would be a nice replacement for Ed Davis.
I suppose Id take Beasley next then Harrell.
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Harrells much better than Beasley, and very underrated.
 
RR7 said:
I'm happy to admit I'm wrong if you can show me where, but knowing you from your olive days, you'll either ignore the subject, find some small semantic to argue for a month, or pull the ol' why should I do your homework for you crap.
Or, you can say you're wrong?
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I have no problem admitting i was wrong as i was looking at capholds mistakenly.

Guess your opinion of me is wrong as well. Going to admit it? :devilwink:
 
Hoopguru said:
Harrells is a big body and seems to have a nice touch around the hoop.
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Per 36: 23.3PPG on 63.5 FG% and 64.7 TS% (with a 24.7 PER)

That's ELITE level efficiency. The only bigs more efficient than him are simple lob catchers/rim runners, while Harrell creates some of those opportunities on his own. I want to see what he could do with starters minutes. If he had a 3pt shot and got 30+ minutes a game, he'd be an all-star. Hell, his per-minute production is better than guys like LaMarcus Aldridge.
 
ATL Gets: Meyers Leonard, Caleb Swanigan
LAC Gets: 2019 POR 1st, $14.8M TPE
POR Gets: Tobias Harris, Miles Plumlee (TPE)

Lillard (36) / McCollum (12)
McCollum (23) / Curry (25)
Harkless (22) / Turner (20) / Aminu (6)
Harris (32) / Aminu (16)
Nurkic (30) / Collins (18)

or

ATL Gets: Maurice Harkless, Caleb Swanigan
LAC Gets: 2019 POR 1st, $14.8M TPE
POR Gets: Tobias Harris, Dewayne Dedmon (TPE)

Lillard (36) / McCollum (12)
McCollum (23) / Curry (25)
Aminu (26) / Turner (22)
Harris (30) / Collins (18)
Nurkic (28) / Dedmon (20)
 
BonesJones said:
Per 36: 23.3PPG on 63.5 FG% and 64.7 TS% (with a 24.7 PER)

That's ELITE level efficiency. The only bigs more efficient than him are simple lob catchers/rim runners, while Harrell creates some of those opportunities on his own. I want to see what he could do with starters minutes. If he had a 3pt shot and got 30+ minutes a game, he'd be an all-star. Hell, his per-minute production is better than guys like LaMarcus Aldridge.
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Question is, why does he only get around 17 mpg then?
 
BonesJones said:
He was playing behind Blake Griffin and Tobias Harris all year.
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Still, it has been that way his whole career and Griffin often missed games. Gotta be more to it than that. Harris has the ability to play the 3 as well so more minutes could be available.
 
CupWizier said:
Still, it has been that way his whole career and Griffin often missed games. Gotta be more to it than that. Harris has the ability to play the 3 as well so more minutes could be available.
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Harrell was in Houston before, and they undervalued him because he couldn't hit 3s and space the floor for Floppy Beard.

Harris is much, much worse at SF.

You're arguing that Harrell's per minute production is a flaw? Obviously it wouldn't extrapolate at such an elite level through starters minutes, but anything close to that is still very, very good.
 
BonesJones said:
Harrell was in Houston before, and they undervalued him because he couldn't hit 3s and space the floor for Floppy Beard.

Harris is much, much worse at SF.

You're arguing that Harrell's per minute production is a flaw? Obviously it wouldn't extrapolate at such an elite level through starters minutes, but anything close to that is still very, very good.
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I'm not arguing anything. I like Harrel, but teams don't seem to want to find minutes for him. I wonder why.
 
BonesJones said:
ATL Gets: Meyers Leonard, Caleb Swanigan
LAC Gets: 2019 POR 1st, $14.8M TPE
POR Gets: Tobias Harris, Miles Plumlee (TPE)

Lillard (36) / McCollum (12)
McCollum (23) / Curry (25)
Harkless (22) / Turner (20) / Aminu (6)
Harris (32) / Aminu (16)
Nurkic (30) / Collins (18)

or

ATL Gets: Maurice Harkless, Caleb Swanigan
LAC Gets: 2019 POR 1st, $14.8M TPE
POR Gets: Tobias Harris, Dewayne Dedmon (TPE)

Lillard (36) / McCollum (12)
McCollum (23) / Curry (25)
Aminu (26) / Turner (22)
Harris (30) / Collins (18)
Nurkic (28) / Dedmon (20)
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I don’t think the Clippers trade away Harris for a mid to late 1st round pick and a trade exception, but I guess anything is possible?
 
TorturedBlazerFan said:
I don’t think the Clippers trade away Harris for a mid to late 1st round pick and a trade exception, but I guess anything is possible?
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Well I wouldn't think so, but they have a glut of combo-forwards/PFs, two of which they brought in this off-season... Gallinari, Harrell, Mbah A Moute, Mike Scott... I could see them moving on from Harris.
 
Propagandist said:
I don't know, man. IT and a healthy, or healthier Milsap, etc. Right now, I'd think they are better.
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Their defense is terrible, how does IT help that? They lost Chandler, Faried, and Arthur. Millsap will turn 34 during the season.
 
I didn't say IT helped the defense. Chandler is inefficient and Faried hardy played last year. And Millsap is still productive. I expect their guards to gel a bit more and Jokic will only get better. We'll see but i expect them to be better.
 
Schilly said:
Bones you do realize trades only have to have w teams right?
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Do you mean 2?

LAC doesn't want long term salary back and thats the only salary that we canuse to match Harris.

So we have to send Harkless/Meyers elsewhere, but theres really no teams with cap space back.. so they can match by sending an equal salary back, which we can absorb with our TPE and not have count as incoming salary, thus allowing the ML/MH contract serve for matching purposes for Harris. ATL does it because Meyers is cheaper and better than Plumlee.
 
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BonesJones said:
Harrell was in Houston before, and they undervalued him because he couldn't hit 3s and space the floor for Floppy Beard.

Harris is much, much worse at SF.

You're arguing that Harrell's per minute production is a flaw? Obviously it wouldn't extrapolate at such an elite level through starters minutes, but anything close to that is still very, very good.
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Harrell would fill the toughness we lost by not resigning Ed, he’s got a mean streak.
 
I can't believe Jabari Parker's contract will pay him 20 mil. per. He's an up and coming talent, but hasn't proven anything yet.
 
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