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tykendo said:
I can't believe Jabari Parker's contract will pay him 20 mil. per. He's an up and coming talent, but hasn't proven anything yet.
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Second year is a team option. For an essentially one year deal where they have to use that $ anyway, it's a great contract. I can't believe Milwaukee rescinded their QO, allowing Chicago to get such a good deal.
 
tykendo said:
I can't believe Jabari Parker's contract will pay him 20 mil. per. He's an up and coming talent, but hasn't proven anything yet.
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He averaged 20ppg and 6rpg in 2016. He has proven more than evan Turner and still has potential. The injury risk is there, but it's essentially a 1 year deal to see where he is at. I like the move for the bulls.
 
Man what a strange and disappointing draft 2014 was.

Wiggins sucks now. The Bucks didn't want to keep Parker. Embiid and Saric might be the two best lottery picks but neither played for two years. Gordon has been okay I guess. Exum has been a disappointment. Smart hasn't signed yet. The Lakers let Randle go. Stauskas signed with us for a minimum one year deal, his 4th team. Vonleh is a free agent still. Elfrid Payton signed a one year prove it deal for what I think was the minimum or close to it. McDermott hasn't done much of anything. That is everyone in the top 12.

That is one of the reasons I don't think you can just say all the teams in the West got better just because of draft picks.
 
yuyuza1 said:
This is crazy.



Guys like Okafor/Monroe can average 10-15 ppg in their sleep. They're slow footed on defense, but they get buckets when you throw them the ball down low. Can't believe all these big men are being phased out in the NBA.
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Frickin’ Warriors have every GM in the league wanting to model what they have done.
 
Scalma said:
Olshey is sleeping because he’s sleeping. He hasn’t done SHIIIIIIIIIT. And he’s gonna get away with it AGAIN.

Last year we lost Crabbe and never replaced him. Just gave Connaughton a rotation spot by default.

Same thing is gonna happen this year with Layman or Biggie
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And we won 8 more games and got a top 3 seed...
 
SlyPokerCat said:
He averaged 20ppg and 6rpg in 2016. He has proven more than evan Turner and still has potential. The injury risk is there, but it's essentially a 1 year deal to see where he is at. I like the move for the bulls.
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Wow, that really puts into perspective how bad ET's contract was and is. The salary cap is higher now and a far superior talent is criticized for being overpaid on a much shorter contract at a similar dollar amount.
 
handiman said:
Wow, that really puts into perspective how bad ET's contract was and is. The salary cap is higher now and a far superior talent is criticized for being overpaid on a much shorter contract at a similar dollar amount.
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Back then almost no one made $25 mil. Now 21 players make $25 mil or more. In fact, 8 players make $30 or more. The top players are squeezing out everyone else.

Fun thought experiment. If ET was an UFA right now, how much would he be signing for? $6 mil/year? maybe?
 
dviss1 said:
Because you said so... I disagree.
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The improvement last year was mainly because we had Nurkic the whole season and Lillard made defense an emphasis, which had a trickle down affect on the majority of the rotation.

But lets take a look at the guy that got a spot in the rotation by default;

Connaughton had literally the worst DRTG on the team, along with the second worst PER.

Hardly a master stroke by Olshey, and I’m expecting the same kind of non production if/when Biggie or Layman get handed a spot.
 
Scalma said:
The improvement last year was mainly because we had Nurkic the whole season and Lillard made defense an emphasis, which had a trickle down affect on the majority of the rotation.

But lets take a look at the guy that got a spot in the rotation by default;

Connaughton had literally the worst DRTG on the team, along with the second worst PER.

Hardly a master stroke by Olshey, and I’m expecting the same kind of non production if/when Biggie or Layman get handed a spot.
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how about baldwin, curry, trent .....
 
lawai'a said:
how about baldwin, curry, trent .....
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Curry was the playoff tested veteran Olshey preached all offseason about? I’m ok with the addition, its just funny how it (along with the Stauskas signing) went against everything Neil blabbed about.

If Baldwin or Trent get minutes, its because they earned it. Neither one is going to get handed anything. That’s reserved for the marginally talented third year guys.
 
Scalma said:
The improvement last year was mainly because we had Nurkic the whole season and Lillard made defense an emphasis, which had a trickle down affect on the majority of the rotation.

But lets take a look at the guy that got a spot in the rotation by default;

Connaughton had literally the worst DRTG on the team, along with the second worst PER.

Hardly a master stroke by Olshey, and I’m expecting the same kind of non production if/when Biggie or Layman get handed a spot.
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I know you mean this as a criticism of Olshey, but it sounds like a massive compliment. I will now put words in your mouth, please feel free to correct any missteps:
"Neil did such a masterful job of building the franchise, he could let the team grow organically without any hasty moves. The strong structural foundation alone would result in the team vastly improving their defense and get them to the 3rd seed in the West." - Scalma
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:)
 
Scalma said:
Curry was the playoff tested veteran Olshey preached all offseason about? I’m ok with the addition, its just funny how it (along with the Stauskas signing) went against everything Neil blabbed about.

If Baldwin or Trent get minutes, its because they earned it. Neither one is going to get handed anything. That’s reserved for the marginally talented third year guys.
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in fairness biggie is in his second season, though summer league doesn't instill a great deal of confidence at this point
edit - this however is baldwin's third year in the league.
 
yuyuza1 said:
Second year is a team option. For an essentially one year deal where they have to use that $ anyway, it's a great contract. I can't believe Milwaukee rescinded their QO, allowing Chicago to get such a good deal.
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Good Deal? He hasn't proven anything yet to be worth 20 mil. per.
 
Natebishop3 said:
Can you imagine if we had all that cap space this summer instead of 2016? The deals we could have had..... :sigh:
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That was never an option. The cap space was literally a use it or lose it situation. Once CJ signed his contract extension the cap space would have been gone even if Olshey hadn't signed any free agent. Signing ET was supposed to be like putting the cap space into the bank in that his $17 million would either work for the Blazers or he could be traded for other assets. Unfortunately, he was a bad fit with Stotts' system and his contract became somewhat toxic, particularly in the light of the fact that NBA spending inevitably died off once the big hit of the TV contract passed. Spending the money wasn't the problem; the problem was who the money was spent on.
 
e_blazer said:
That was never an option. The cap space was literally a use it or lose it situation. Once CJ signed his contract extension the cap space would have been gone even if Olshey hadn't signed any free agent. Signing ET was supposed to be like putting the cap space into the bank in that his $17 million would either work for the Blazers or he could be traded for other assets. Unfortunately, he was a bad fit with Stotts' system and his contract became somewhat toxic, particularly in the light of the fact that NBA spending inevitably died off once the big hit of the TV contract passed. Spending the money wasn't the problem; the problem was who the money was spent on.
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1) Agreed. CJ's extension could have easily been delayed until the following off-season, thus preserving cap space for the '17-'18 summer.
2) ET's signing was NEVER going to be an asset. I don't mind the thought process, but terrible execution.
3) Couldn't agree more. The problem has always been WHO the money was spent on. It's better to not spend the money than make a bad purchase.
 
tester551 said:
1) Agreed. CJ's extension could have easily been delayed until the following off-season, thus preserving cap space for the '17-'18 summer.
2) ET's signing was NEVER going to be an asset. I don't mind the thought process, but terrible execution.
3) Couldn't agree more. The problem has always been WHO the money was spent on. It's better to not spend the money than make a bad purchase.
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The Blazers were concerned that the players were going to opt out of the CBA the next season, which likely would have ended up costing more for CJ:

De-coupling McCollum's contract from the salary cap has helped to finalize the Blazers' 2017-18 salary obligations. The NBA players are likely to opt out of the league's Collective Bargaining Agreement (CBA) next summer, which will initiate a re-negotiation of the NBA's salary rules. It is possible, if not likely, that the players will "win" the negotiation and trigger an increase in next year's cap over the current $102 million estimate.

Since McCollum's non-maximum contract is defined by a set dollar amount rather than a percentage of the cap, it will not be affected by the league's CBA negotiations and any consequent cap re-calculations. If McCollum's extension had been defined as a true 25 percent maximum contract, then it would have risen in conjunction with the cap.

For the Blazers, locking McCollum in at a fixed rate rather than tying his compensation to the salary cap is a definite win.
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link

In the end the players didn’t opt out so it looks like a questionable move in hindsight. You win some and you lose some.
 
e_blazer said:
That was never an option. The cap space was literally a use it or lose it situation. Once CJ signed his contract extension the cap space would have been gone even if Olshey hadn't signed any free agent. Signing ET was supposed to be like putting the cap space into the bank in that his $17 million would either work for the Blazers or he could be traded for other assets. Unfortunately, he was a bad fit with Stotts' system and his contract became somewhat toxic, particularly in the light of the fact that NBA spending inevitably died off once the big hit of the TV contract passed. Spending the money wasn't the problem; the problem was who the money was spent on.
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Oh I know.... I’m just dreaming about what we could have done if the cap space had penciled out for this year.
 
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