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Check this out. Kinda makes you feel sorry for Chris Paul, doesn't it? And the Hornets so far this pre-season (yes, yes, get the "pre-season doesn't mean anything"s out of your system now) the Hornets have looked pretty horrid. I can see them not making the playoffs, particularly if they have injury problems like they have had, and Peja isn't getting any younger. So... what's a hyper-competitive young guy like Chris Paul to do? Answer, have his agent quietly demand a trade, with the proviso that if nothing is done soon, it'll be a non-quiet demand. And who would he demand a trade to? Probably the Lakers, dammit. But after that, why not us? Who would you give up to get him? Make sure the trades work on the Trade Machine and that they're good enough to beat plausible alternatives by other good teams.
 
I'd trade Roy, Miller, and Travis for him.

:devilwink:
 
roy for cp3? really? idk if its just me, but Roy is much more entertaining to watch play....
 
I'd trade Roy, Miller, and Travis for him.

:devilwink:

Meh.

If he is demanding a trade. I think we have the the players on the team to make it happen without moving Roy, LMA and Oden. But I don't know. I think some posters in here would move Roy for CP3.
 
Meh.

If he is demanding a trade. I think we have the the players on the team to make it happen without moving Roy, LMA and Oden. But I don't know. I think some posters in here would move Roy for CP3.
Really? You think NO is going to trade the best PG in the game for reserves? I would in fact trade Roy for Paul.

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=yg9lnx2

Paul/Miller/Bayless
Rudy/Bayless/Webster
Batum/Webster/Wright
LMA/Pryzbilla/Howard
Oden/Pryzbilla/LMA

I'd probably do that, although I don't know if NO would.

You are trading essentially Roy for Paul, but give NO a trial with Blake and Outlaw, both of whom they could let walk at the end of the year to cut salary or resign.

Paul would make both Oden and LMA so much better.
 
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You don't trade Roy. The entire city would blow up. He is the face of the franchise now and deep down I don't feel that Paul makes us that better than Roy does. I would say anyone outside of Roy and Oden(just due to odens age and pryz's). A lot of times these deals for superstars come for a bunch of cheap but good prospects. Look at the Gasol trade and other big trades in the past.



BUT there is no way CP3 comes to Portland... so just /thread.
 
Really? You think NO is going to trade the best PG in the game for reserves? I would in fact trade Roy for Paul.

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=yg9lnx2

Paul/Miller/Bayless
Rudy/Bayless/Webster
Batum/Webster/Wright
LMA/Pryzbilla/Howard
Oden/Pryzbilla/LMA

I'd probably do that, although I don't know if NO would.

You are trading essentially Roy for Paul, but give NO a trial with Blake and Outlaw, both of whom they could let walk at the end of the year to cut salary or resign.

Paul would make both Oden and LMA so much better.

I don't know if that would be in Portland's best interest to trade all their depth for Paul. It might make more sense for them to drop one of the big three for him so they can hold on to the depth.

But I'm thinking out of Miller, Przyilla, Outlaw, Webster, Fernandez, Bayless, Batum,Blake, Pendergraph, Cunningham. You could come up with enough to get Paul.
 
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I'd trade Roy for Paul. He and LeBron are the two guys in the league I would pull the trigger on instantly for a trade for Roy without a second of remorse.

If the Hornets ever were forced to deal Paul, we could probably offer as good a package as anyone in terms of talent and age. It's hard to imagine them doing it, though.
 
Can you imagine the whining Brandon and LaMarcus would do if we traded for Chris Paul? They are already bitching about getting shots. Hell, Brandon might demand to be traded if he can't get his way, and have the ball in his hands when he wants.
 
Can you imagine the whining Brandon and LaMarcus would do if we traded for Chris Paul? They are already bitching about getting shots. Hell, Brandon might demand to be traded if he can't get his way, and have the ball in his hands when he wants.

So what? We win with the ball in his hands...
:dunno:
 
I'm not saying it shouldn't be. I am saying that bringing in an actual PG, that would help the team. is not what Brandon wants.

Is that your opinion, or fact? If it's fact, can you link me to where he was quoted with saying he doesn't want an "actual PG". Maybe I just missed it....
 
I don't know if that would be in Portland's best interest to trade all their depth for Paul. It might make more sense for them to drop one of the big three for him so they can hold on to the depth.

But I'm thinking out of Miller, Przyilla, Outlaw, Webster, Fernandez, Bayless, Batum,Blake, Pendergraph, Cunningham. You could come up with enough to get Paul.

I'd love to throw in Miller and keep Blake as a back-up, it would allow us to keep one of Pendergraph or Cunningham I think, but I was using the ESPN trade machine and Miller can't be traded until 12/15. My scenario would be for a trade right now.
 
Really? You think NO is going to trade the best PG in the game for reserves? I would in fact trade Roy for Paul.

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=yg9lnx2

Paul/Miller/Bayless
Rudy/Bayless/Webster
Batum/Webster/Wright
LMA/Pryzbilla/Howard
Oden/Pryzbilla/LMA

I'd probably do that, although I don't know if NO would.

You are trading essentially Roy for Paul, but give NO a trial with Blake and Outlaw, both of whom they could let walk at the end of the year to cut salary or resign.

Paul would make both Oden and LMA so much better.

I kind of like that!!! And I think Wright would start over Batum or Webster.
 
Is that your opinion, or fact? If it's fact, can you link me to where he was quoted with saying he doesn't want an "actual PG". Maybe I just missed it....




You did miss it. Brandon has stated a few times in the Oregonian that he doesn't think the Blazers need a PG that dominates the ball because he likes to have the ball. He of course never used the term actual PG though
 
You did miss it. Brandon has stated a few times in the Oregonian that he doesn't think the Blazers need a PG that dominates the ball because he likes to have the ball. He of course never used the term actual PG though

Gotcha. Well, I think I understand what he's trying to do here. I think, with him getting slimmer, and wanting the ball, he wants to become the Blazers PG!

:devilwink:

Then we can play him at PG, Rudy at SG, and away we go.
 
Gotcha. Well, I think I understand what he's trying to do here. I think, with him getting slimmer, and wanting the ball, he wants to become the Blazers PG!

:devilwink:

Then we can play him at PG, Rudy at SG, and away we go.




I would be all for that, my friend. Although I still think Roy is a SG. Roy does a lot of things that PG's do though. He gets into the lane, he draws fouls and he is a good P&R guy. I can't remember if he is good at creating for others, or dishing off in the lane however? As for defense, if he stayed off his man enough he could keep him in front of him I guess?
 
Paul is a better player than Roy. I love Roy and, in fact, think he could potentially have a Hall of Fame career...but Paul is guaranteed to be an inner circle Hall of Famer, assuming no major injuries. I would certainly trade Roy for Paul (though, in the short term, Paul wouldn't exactly fit well with Miller...but the chance to get Paul is still too great to let that stand in the way).

Of course, it would be nice to get Paul without giving up Roy or Oden. I think a lot of Aldridge, but A. you have to give up something to get something and B. I think ultimately Oden will be the more valuable player.

Aldridge, Fernandez, Bayless, Outlaw and draft picks? They could play Aldridge at center, giving them a very talented front court of Aldridge/West. Outlaw is a better option now than a fading Stojakovic and Rudy gives them a talented and exciting backcourt player while Bayless gives them a prospect to dream on.

This would be a perfect example of a consolidation deal to me...Portland gives up a lot of talent, but ends up with one big-time player that significantly upgrades their top three players.

Playing around with the Trade Checker, though, it's pretty hard to put together a deal due to Paul's BYC status. I didn't spend too much time trying to make it work, so I'm just talking about the outlines of what I'd like to see, not specific details to make the numbers work. Aldridge/Bayless/Fernandez/Outlaw for Paul/Armstrong came close.

In the short-term, though, it creates significant problems. Three point guards (though, I'd push Blake to back up shooting guard, since his role is mostly to shoot from the perimeter)...that still leaves Miller as a backup in every way. I think he might have a problem with playing only 18 minutes at most. It also leaves Portland with no power forward of note. This big an overhaul would require further moves.
 
It's pure fantasy to think we could get Paul without giving up one of our Big Three. This isn't Pau Gasol we're talking about here. It's one of the top 3 players in the entire league. Possibly the best point guard since Magic.

The interesting question to me is which of our three do you give up? Oden has too much upside, IMO. So it comes down to Roy vs Aldridge. Aldridge seems a better fit next to Paul than Roy does. It'd be the Paul/West/Chandler trio on a freakin' massive dose of steroids, with a decent bench and nice role players. Although I'd be just as happy to give up Aldridge to get Paul, come to think of it.
 
It's pure fantasy to think we could get Paul without giving up one of our Big Three. This isn't Pau Gasol we're talking about here. It's one of the top 3 players in the entire league. Possibly the best point guard since Magic.

The interesting question to me is which of our three do you give up? Oden has too much upside, IMO. So it comes down to Roy vs Aldridge. Aldridge seems a better fit next to Paul than Roy does. It'd be the Paul/West/Chandler trio on a freakin' massive dose of steroids, with a decent bench and nice role players. Although I'd be just as happy to give up Aldridge to get Paul, come to think of it.

This.
 
I suggested Roy for Paul because (1) unless you are Memphis colluding with Stern and the Lakers, you have to give an all-star to get an all-star, and (2) I don't think Roy can coexist with Paul, and (3) I'd rather have Paul. I suggested Miller because they'd need a guard back, Blake wouldn't cut it, and Miller would be redundant and would be unhappy coming off our bench, while Blake would be a fine backup for us. I threw in Travis to give them replaceable value to get 'er done. Paul would make all our other players better, and the trade would clear up chemistry and playing time issues. I'm sure it probably doesn't work on the trade machine, that's not my thing, so flame away. Mostly though, I suggested it to see the response. :)
 
You don't trade Roy. The entire city would blow up. He is the face of the franchise now and deep down I don't feel that Paul makes us that better than Roy does. I would say anyone outside of Roy and Oden(just due to odens age and pryz's). A lot of times these deals for superstars come for a bunch of cheap but good prospects. Look at the Gasol trade and other big trades in the past.



BUT there is no way CP3 comes to Portland... so just /thread.

This.

CP3 is an amazing player but I can't imagine Portland even considering trading Roy. What he has done for the team goes beyond his contributions on the floor.
 
roy for cp3? really? idk if its just me, but Roy is much more entertaining to watch play....

Get League Pass and watch as many Hornets games as you possibly can then ... Brandon's fun to watch and is a stud in his own right, but CP3 is a marvel at the point guard position, he's easily one of my favorite non-Blazers to watch play, and is probably one of the smartest, toughest guys in the league.
 
I'd trade Roy for Paul. He and LeBron are the two guys in the league I would pull the trigger on instantly for a trade for Roy without a second of remorse.

If the Hornets ever were forced to deal Paul, we could probably offer as good a package as anyone in terms of talent and age. It's hard to imagine them doing it, though.

It's a no-brainer for me as well, and I love what Roy does. The only player I wouldn't trade for Paul at this point is Oden, although I'd think long about it.
 
It's a no-brainer for me as well, and I love what Roy does. The only player I wouldn't trade for Paul at this point is Oden, although I'd think long about it.
I wouldn't either. I know there are a lot of fans who would. Today, I think it would be taking a risk to 'not' do it if offered, but I'd be willing to take that risk. We have enough pieces on this team that if Oden pans out the way he should, I'd simply have to go with the monster center for our championship run over the monster point guard.
 
Get League Pass and watch as many Hornets games as you possibly can then ... Brandon's fun to watch and is a stud in his own right, but CP3 is a marvel at the point guard position, he's easily one of my favorite non-Blazers to watch play, and is probably one of the smartest, toughest guys in the league.

Agree, he is exciting. You give him this group of talent Portland has. He will be that much more fun.
 
Get League Pass and watch as many Hornets games as you possibly can then ... Brandon's fun to watch and is a stud in his own right, but CP3 is a marvel at the point guard position, he's easily one of my favorite non-Blazers to watch play, and is probably one of the smartest, toughest guys in the league.

Me too. I hate seeing him stuck on such a pathetic Hornets team. Just a pure joy to watch.
 

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