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BLAZINGGIANTS said:
I knew a hot dog vendor. She made pretty good money, considering she stood downtown for 6 hours per day.

Also, a friend-of-a-friend had a bike built with a warmer and a cooler. Used to ride around the SoCal beach selling dogs and soda all day while back from college for the summer. After all expenses, he walked away with $30-35K for 4 months' work.
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Yeah.

Another good example would be Microsoft. The cost of the DVD and packaging is maybe $1. They sell the OS or Office for $hundreds.
 
We can make this entire thread come back to the NBA by then mentioning the markup of beer and food items at NBA games. I can buy a 6-pack of quality beer at a grocery store for the same price that I can buy a cup of crappy beer at the Rose Garden.
 
OSUBlazerfan said:
Obama and the liberals that follow him are communists. In communism everyone is "equal" and life is "fair". Whatever anyone earns is taken from them and distributed "fairly" among everyone else. Who gets what you earned and how much is decided by Obama and his administration. Everyone, even those who are not part of the "commune" (i.e. illegal immigrants) are welcome to what you earned and what Obama decides is fair to give them. The new healthcare plan is part of this "entitlement" package that the communists will give to everyone.
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Precisely! Spread the word, the liberals are trying to pawn this shit off as blackness.
 
blazerboy30 said:
Why anybody would want the government, which we can all agree is corrupt regardless of your political leaning, involved in our health care is beyond me.
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YEAH, YOU EVER HEARD OF THIS COUNTRY CALLED "SWITZERLAND". THEY HAVE UNIVERSAL HEALTH CARE AND ITS MAGNIFICENT.
 
EL PRESIDENTE said:
YEAH, YOU EVER HEARD OF THIS COUNTRY CALLED "SWITZERLAND". THEY HAVE UNIVERSAL HEALTH CARE AND ITS MAGNIFICENT.
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Oh my! You do know they have health insurance there and you are required to buy it? You also are required to own a gun. I suppose we could have done the same with a small constitutional amendment.
That would have been far better than this abortion called Obama care.

The swiss have just about the same tax rate as the US Federal tax which is a lot less than the US when you consider State Tax too. Then they did not add a tax on employers that provide healthcare for workers and dependents, nor did they add in a transaction value tax on the sale of property.

They must have much smarter leadership, don't you think?
 
MarAzul said:
Oh my! You do know they have health insurance there and you are required to buy it? You also are required to own a gun. I suppose we could have done the same with a small constitutional amendment.
That would have been far better than this abortion called Obama care.

The swiss have just about the same tax rate as the US Federal tax which is a lot less than the US when you consider State Tax too. Then they did not add a tax on employers that provide healthcare for workers and dependents, nor did they add in a transaction value tax on the sale of property.

They must have much smarter leadership, don't you think?
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Leadership aside, they sure as hell have more intelligent citizens
 
I say "No to snow", but a few interesting items

1. The burden of government spending is lower in Switzerland. According to OECD, the public sector consumes only 33.1 percent of economic output in Switzerland, compared to 41.1 percent of GDP in the United States.

2. Switzerland has genuine federalism, with the national government responsible for only about one-third of government spending. The United States used to be like that, but now more than two-thirds of government spending comes from Washington.

3. Because of a belief that individuals have a right to control information about their personal affairs, Switzerland has a strong human rights policy that protects financial privacy. In the United States, the government can look at your bank account and does not even need a search warrant.

4. Switzerland has a positive form of multiculturalism with people living together peacefully notwithstanding different languages and different religions. In the United States, by contrast, the government causes strife and resentment with a system of racial spoils.

5. Gun ownership is pervasive in Switzerland, and the Swiss people value this freedom. Moreover, how can one not admire a nation where all able-bodied males have fully automatic rifles in their homes? To be sure, the United States is very good by world standards in protecting this freedom, so the Swiss don’t really have an advantage on this issue, but it’s still worth mentioning.
 
DaLincolnJones said:
I say "No to snow", but a few interesting items

1. The burden of government spending is lower in Switzerland. According to OECD, the public sector consumes only 33.1 percent of economic output in Switzerland, compared to 41.1 percent of GDP in the United States.

2. Switzerland has genuine federalism, with the national government responsible for only about one-third of government spending. The United States used to be like that, but now more than two-thirds of government spending comes from Washington.

3. Because of a belief that individuals have a right to control information about their personal affairs, Switzerland has a strong human rights policy that protects financial privacy. In the United States, the government can look at your bank account and does not even need a search warrant.

4. Switzerland has a positive form of multiculturalism with people living together peacefully notwithstanding different languages and different religions. In the United States, by contrast, the government causes strife and resentment with a system of racial spoils.

5. Gun ownership is pervasive in Switzerland, and the Swiss people value this freedom. Moreover, how can one not admire a nation where all able-bodied males have fully automatic rifles in their homes? To be sure, the United States is very good by world standards in protecting this freedom, so the Swiss don’t really have an advantage on this issue, but it’s still worth mentioning.
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Continue to educate my friend, these young fellows are going to need a lot of help if we continue to let them vote.
 
MarAzul said:
Continue to educate my friend, these young fellows are going to need a lot of help if we continue to let them vote.
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oh and I forgot one of the most telling facts. They speak four languages within that country at a minimum, Our kids struggle too attempt to master only one.
 
He's talking about barfo.

“Lack of transparency is a huge political advantage,” says the MIT economist who helped write Obamacare. “And basically, call it the stupidity of the American voter or whatever, but basically that was really, really critical for the thing to pass.”
 
maxiep said:
And the mask is beginning to slip off. Stupid peons. You just don't understand what is best for you, so your betters have to decide for you.

http://dailysignal.com/2014/11/09/c...rchitect-admits-deceiving-americans-pass-law/

Note that Dr. Gruber goes out of his way to state that Obamacare was written to NOT be a tax. Chief Justice Roberts, are you listening?
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It was more than apparent that this sort of thinking was in action the whole time. What surprises the hell out of me is, we still have those among us that can't recognize the deceit even now.
See the responses to your post!!!???
 
Denny Crane said:
Lied us into a bad policy.
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I believe we need another reason for impeachment added to the Constitution beyond high crimes and misdemeanors. Failure to uphold the oath of office, namely failure to uphold and defend the Constitution.
There can be no doubt that this this law was designed to dupe the American people rather than uphold the Constitution. Otherwise the law would have be presented as a Constitutional amendment which is the only way it could be viewed as strictly above board and lawful.
 
It's not a high crime or misdemeanor.

You can't impeach the guy for being smart but insisting on terrible policy.
 
Denny Crane said:
It's not a high crime or misdemeanor.

You can't impeach the guy for being smart but insisting on terrible policy.
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It is not a high crime and I didn't say it was. But it sure as hell was not a faithful attempt to uphold the Constitution either. To the contrary, an overt disregard for the Constitution and a violation of the oath of office.
That should be viewed with the same contempt and the same penalty the reward.
 
SCOTUS reviewed the law and found it constitutional.
 
Denny Crane said:
SCOTUS reviewed the law and found it constitutional.
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No shit! And how dumb was that? Hell Robert's reason for his rule doesn't hold water either. But then that rule did not rule on the bill as a whole, just the narrow part about the mandate being a tax.

I suspect he (Roberts) will take the opportunity to correct his error in the near future.
 
Elections have consequences. That's what Roberts wrote. Seems the balance between the three branches was a reason to stay out of it.
 
Denny Crane said:
Elections have consequences. That's what Roberts wrote. Seems the balance between the three branches was a reason to stay out of it.
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He punted and skipped his duty. I bet he doesn't do it again.
 
What is even more weird about this issue, is there are so few that give shit!
 
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