Game Thread GAME# 10: THUNDER @ BLAZERS - NOVEMBER 5, 2017 - SUNDAY, 6:00 (PST), NBCSNW

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If we had traded for Melo over the summer, what do you think our record would be like?

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Nikolokolus said:
If Damian Lillard would've been ejected on a call like that, how would you react?
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He isn't their Damian, Westbrick is and shit away the win for OKC
 
SportsAndWhine said:
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I admit it. During the game I had some fizzy lifting drinks
 
HCP said:
I think the thing that bugs me about this place the most is the flat out hate a disrespect for other teams players. Why can't you guys show some respect for good ball players every now and then. It won't mean you are LESS of a Blazers fan.
Westbrook and PG are 2 of the best players in the league. I can understand not liking Russ (shit, if anybody on here actually had a reason it would be me, and my two encounters with him) but he is one of the most exciting players to watch today in the league. That 4th quarter was a blast to watch right? Back and fourth 3s, up and down.
Props to our guys for putting away a better team than us. We got a little help from the refs on the Melo play if you ask me. And on that note, please remember that play when freaking out about some call down the road. Whether you believe it or not, the calls do tend to even themselves out.
It's alright to give other teams players a little credit , yet preserve your pinwheel allegiance.
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It's not that we don't think they're good players, it's that a lot of us are smart enough to see how Russ is overrated, and his triple double coverage last year was annoying.

Plus, he's a division rival. I don't have hate for any Eastern Conference player really..

Who's to say they're better? Based on what?? They were playing better without Carmelo, we had 20+ turnovers, and outside of our big 3, nobody did anything. That Melo play was definitely a flagrant 1 (probably not a flagrant 2) but that wouldn't still led to him getting ejected. He has a layup and jumped past the rim and led with his elbow straight to the face of Nurkic. Definitely flagrant.

I'd love to hear your Westbrook stories though.
 
Nikolokolus said:
I guess. I think an offensive foul would have been fine, but whatever.
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I typically agree with you but your take on this leaves me scratching my head. Melo could have made a move to the basket and scored. He didn't. Instead he made a move away from the basket and led with his elbow into Nurk's jaw. He sought out the contact and delivered a shot to the face. Not a basketball move; initiated contact; unnecessary.

I guess we can't agree all the time ;)

:cheers:
 
Btballer said:
This blazers franchise will never be relevant
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Says the dude who's a fan of OKC... A city that only got a team because of another cities hurricane combined.

A city that doesn't have an NBA championship, so they pretend like the championship that SEATTLE won is theirs as well.

If you wanna talk about relevancy, then I'd be delighted to show you how your OKC Thunder aren't shit (but are at the same time).
 
So at least some of the OKC faithful think Nurk is one of the dirtiest players in the league? I would not have thought that. Why do they think that? Is he? Have I not been paying attention? Because I honestly haven't seen that. He likes to talk a lot, but I can't recall him taking a cheap shot at anyone. Do they think that based on his "we want to be bad boys" comment? :dunno:
 
Boob-No-More said:
Luck had nothing to do with Westbrook's 4th quarter play. That was vintage Westbrook. He consistently chokes away games in the 4th quarter. Two years ago, Durant's last season in OKC, the Blunder choked away 15 games where they led in the 4th quarter.

Think about that for a second...

You have a 4-time NBA scoring champ in the prime of his career and you cough up 15 4th quarter leads. How is that even possible?

Two words: Russell Westbrook. His resume is full of examples of freezing out his teammates in the 4th quarter of close games (especially Durant, no wonder he left), countless attempts at selfish hero ball, scores of unforced turnovers, stupid fouls and missed FTs.

If you were at all surprised by Westbrook's 4th quarter choke job, you must not have seen many OKC games. Last night was classic Westbrook. Nothing lucky or exceptional about it. It is who he is.

BNM
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This comment makes me smile. I had to read it like 4 times and still could not quit smiling....
 
BBert said:
So at least some of the OKC faithful think Nurk is one of the dirtiest players in the league? I would not have thought that. Why do they think that? Is he? Have I not been paying attention? Because I honestly haven't seen that. He likes to talk a lot, but I can't recall him taking a cheap shot at anyone. Do they think that based on his "we want to be bad boys" comment? :dunno:
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probably cause he is overdramatic and we know he is
I understand those who dont like him
 
Boob-No-More said:
Luck had nothing to do with Westbrook's 4th quarter play. That was vintage Westbrook. He consistently chokes away games in the 4th quarter. Two years ago, Durant's last season in OKC, the Blunder choked away 15 games where they led in the 4th quarter.

Think about that for a second...

You have a 4-time NBA scoring champ in the prime of his career and you cough up 15 4th quarter leads. How is that even possible?

Two words: Russell Westbrook. His resume is full of examples of freezing out his teammates in the 4th quarter of close games (especially Durant, no wonder he left), countless attempts at selfish hero ball, scores of unforced turnovers, stupid fouls and missed FTs.

If you were at all surprised by Westbrook's 4th quarter choke job, you must not have seen many OKC games. Last night was classic Westbrook. Nothing lucky or exceptional about it. It is who he is.

BNM
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Stotts has the notebook of Westbrook's therapist, I swear to god, and he just takes a page and uses it against him. Remember when he switched Dame off of Russ and put Wes on him a few years ago, and Russ was all like "he afraid of me!" and proceeds to brick eight straight shots? Stotts made a huge show of making the defensive switch, but he was just grinning like a fool while Russ self destructed.
 
Mr. Robot said:
probably cause he is overdramatic and we know he is
I understand those who dont like him
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Nurkic is our Vlade Divac or Bill Laimbeer, but with way more skill... he's going to be infuriating teams for years to come.
 
yeah, hes one of those players you either love or hate cause of their charachter

so far hes not well know around the league, but if he continues to play like this, soon he will become well known and the love or hate gonna get bigger... god knows I said he needs to make himself recognizable and if that type of behaviour is one way of doing it, then great
 
Mr. Robot said:
probably cause he is overdramatic and we know he is
I understand those who dont like him
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Oh, sure. Nurk's cocky attitude would be super irritating if he were on another team. But one of the "dirtiest" players in the league? Where does that come from? Since I haven't seen it, I find myself questioning whether that's due to my homer goggles? Or theirs?
 
HCP said:
I think the thing that bugs me about this place the most is the flat out hate a disrespect for other teams players. Why can't you guys show some respect for good ball players every now and then. It won't mean you are LESS of a Blazers fan.
Westbrook and PG are 2 of the best players in the league. I can understand not liking Russ (shit, if anybody on here actually had a reason it would be me, and my two encounters with him) but he is one of the most exciting players to watch today in the league. That 4th quarter was a blast to watch right? Back and fourth 3s, up and down.
Props to our guys for putting away a better team than us. We got a little help from the refs on the Melo play if you ask me. And on that note, please remember that play when freaking out about some call down the road. Whether you believe it or not, the calls do tend to even themselves out.
It's alright to give other teams players a little credit , yet preserve your pinwheel allegiance.
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The posters on s2 who 'flat out hate and disrespect' Westbrick would still call him the best pg in the league. As well as a top 5 player.
Personally though I only think Westbrick is that caliber when he's locked in on both ends.
Watching Lillard blow by him time and time again shows he's not locked in.
Getting blown by, by Lillard once or twice is fine. But Lillard was getting to the rim at will with Westbrick guarding him. So much so that Donavan took him off of him to guard CJ.
I'm reminded of Lillard's rookie year when Westbrick was posting Lillard up and scoring with ease. Portland switched Matthews onto Westbrick and your crew as a timeout was called, showed Westbrick mouthing. 'Tell him not to be scared' towards Matthews/Portland bench.

At the end of the day Westbrick is a great player, easily a top 5 player and the best PG in the league.
However it's not disrespectful to say, Westbrick makes boneheaded plays which cost his team games.

Btw, this is directly from the rulebook.
Flagrant Foul Penalty 2 When a player makes excessive contact with an extended elbow, that is deemed reckless or intentional, a Flagrant Foul 2 will be assessed.


When a player seeks out an opponent and throws an elbow which makes significant contact on any part of the body, regardless of where it lands, a Flagrant Foul Penalty 2 will be assessed.

When a player seeks out an opponent and throws an elbow which makes any contact above the shoulders, a Flagrant Foul Penalty 2 will be assessed.
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BBert said:
Oh, sure. Nurk's cocky attitude would be super irritating if he were on another team. But one of the "dirtiest" players in the league? Where does that come from? Since I haven't seen it, I find myself questioning whether that's due to my homer goggles? Or theirs?
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People call Har_en dirty due to his flopping also.
They're mis-typing.
 
BBert said:
Oh, sure. His cocky attitude would be super irritating if he were on another team. But one of the "dirtiest" players in the league? Where does that come from? Since I haven't seen it, I find myself questioning whether that's due to my homer goggles? Or theirs?
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I agree with you, hes not dirty player like Dray, but maybe OKC fans have different understanding of the word "dirty" in the sports term... I wouldnt call him "dirty" or "flopper", yes he is overdramatic, so Id call him "irritating", "douchebag" or other insulting term
 
SportsAndWhine said:
Stotts has the notebook of Westbrook's therapist, I swear to god, and he just takes a page and uses it against him. Remember when he switched Dame off of Russ and put Wes on him a few years ago, and Russ was all like "he afraid of me!" and proceeds to brick eight straight shots? Stotts made a huge show of making the defensive switch, but he was just grinning like a fool while Russ self destructed.
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Yep, when Stotts made the switch, Russ made some snide comment to Dame about Terry needing to send Dame's big brother to guard him. He probably should have waited until he actually scored on Wes to start talking shit.

BNM
 
Nikolokolus said:
This won't be popular, but after getting a chance to watch the replay of the game this A.M. I don't think Melo should have been ejected. Flagrant 1 maybe, but to me it's just not clear he went head-hunting. It looked like he was trying to draw contact and make a circus shot.
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He would have been ejected whether it's a flagrant 1 or 2. So in reality, it doesn't matter.
 
BBert said:
Oh, sure. Nurk's cocky attitude would be super irritating if he were on another team. But one of the "dirtiest" players in the league? Where does that come from? Since I haven't seen it, I find myself questioning whether that's due to my homer goggles? Or theirs?
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He got away with it last night, but Nurk does shove guys in the back on screens and generally make himself a total nuisance. I LOVE IT. We need that attitude. And yeah he's cocky, but he's been backing it up ever since Stotts force feeds him at the beginning of the game. It's a good look for him.
 
Damn, I didn't even see the full stat line of nurk... yes, he had 5 turnovers, but:

25/8/3 with 3 steals and 2 blocks. Oh, and on 11/15 shooting.
 
Strenuus said:
He would have been ejected whether it's a flagrant 1 or 2. So in reality, it doesn't matter.
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Not only that but I also think the refs took into consideration how this game was heading. The timing of the elbow was a little too coincidental. Maybe the refs felt they needed to take control of the game?

OKC was pissed about something and were crying a little more than usual and not being rewarded for it by the refs. I honestly thought this officiating crew was the best I have seen in a long time. Not a lot of superstar treatment.
 
Melo did that shit on purpose and almost got away with it. Clear lane to the basket, but Carmelo thought a circus shot with his back to the basket was a better idea? Naw, he seeked that contact out. Glad the refs didn't fall for it.
 
SportsAndWhine said:
Stotts has the notebook of Westbrook's therapist, I swear to god, and he just takes a page and uses it against him. Remember when he switched Dame off of Russ and put Wes on him a few years ago, and Russ was all like "he afraid of me!" and proceeds to brick eight straight shots? Stotts made a huge show of making the defensive switch, but he was just grinning like a fool while Russ self destructed.
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Doesn't it go back even further, to slow ass Andre Miller schooling the feisty young Westbrook?
 
SportsAndWhine said:
Stotts has the notebook of Westbrook's therapist, I swear to god, and he just takes a page and uses it against him. Remember when he switched Dame off of Russ and put Wes on him a few years ago, and Russ was all like "he afraid of me!" and proceeds to brick eight straight shots? Stotts made a huge show of making the defensive switch, but he was just grinning like a fool while Russ self destructed.
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"HE SCAYRED !" .....brick
"HE SCAYRED !" .....brick

repeat.
 
Scalma said:
Melo did that shit on purpose and almost got away with it. Clear lane to the basket, but Carmelo thought a circus shot with his back to the basket was a better idea? Naw, he seeked that contact out. Glad the refs didn't fall for it.
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Exactly. Dude was already pissed off at the refs so that context matters. He could've had a dunk, and if not he should've went up with his body facing the basket and created contact with his right shoulder while finishing with his left, like most players do. Instead, he led with the ball and his elbows to Nurkic's face... Not natural at all. Flagrant 1 or Flagrant 2, it didn't matter. He already had a technical.
 
Do technical and flagrant 1 actually add up ? I thought it was 2 differents things
 
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