Game Thread GAME# 14: SPURS @ BLAZERS - JANUARY 18, 2021 - MONDAY, 12:00, NBCSNW

[Sheldon Shape]

Here's the 2019-2020 data: Correlation 0.12 (VERY WEAK).

The team with the lowest assist average had more wins than the team with the most assists.

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Seems right to me. I would think the teams with the superstars would ride them more so less ball movement.

If the Blazers had that I could understand but they don't. Those are luxuries of a team with superstars.

Just my thinking if I'm understanding correctly.

 

[Tince]

Seems right to me. I would think the teams with the superstars would ride them more so less ball movement.

If the Blazers had that I could understand but they don't. Those are luxuries of a team with superstars.

Just my thinking if I'm understanding correctly.

I see where you're coming from, that would be interesting to look at. So your guess is that teams without All-NBA players would have more assists than teams with 1 or 2 all-nba players? That would be easy to determine, but I want to make sure I'm understanding your point.

Originally, I thought you were saying that more assists = more wins, which I think we can both agree has been proven untrue.

 

[AldoTrapani]

Can we please rebuild just do Dame and cj a favor and trade them for a bunch of picks

 

[Sheldon Shape]

I see where you're coming from, that would be interesting to look at. So your guess is that teams without All-NBA players would have more assists than teams with 1 or 2 all-nba players? That would be easy to determine, but I want to make sure I'm understanding your point.

Originally, I thought you were saying that more assists = more wins, which I think we can both agree has been proven untrue.

We definitely agree that more assists don't equal more wins. My thought is that the more successful teams tend to get more assists. What I mean successful is playoff success. Especially how playoff defense is vs regular season. The Lakers, Heat and Nuggets are in the top 10 for just this season.

 

[maxiep]

And yet..... Kawhi couldn't wait to get out of there. Why?

I'm glad we agree that Pops made Kawhi much of the player he is today.

Since I'm not Kawhi Leonard nor RC Buford, I couldn't possibly explain to you why they chose to trade him. I don't know that "he couldn't wait to get out of there". Did they trade him because he told them he wanted play back in LA? Did he want a bigger market? Did he think Pops was a harda** who forced Kawhi to work under a team-first system? Who knows what triggered the trade to Toronto?

 

[OneSport3]

I'm glad we agree that Pops made Kawhi much of the player he is today.

Since I'm not Kawhi Leonard nor RC Buford, I couldn't possibly explain to you why they chose to trade him. I don't know that "he couldn't wait to get out of there". Did they trade him because he told them he wanted play back in LA? Did he want a bigger market? Did he think Pops was a harda** who forced Kawhi to work under a team-first system? Who knows what triggered the trade to Toronto?

He lost trust in their front office/team doctors. The front office/team doctors kept insisting that he was healthy enough to play while his own personal doctors said otherwise. Buford and some Spurs (I believe Tony Parker) aired this out through the media, which angered Kawhi.

 

[James lamphear]

They were the better team today, no doubt about it. We were better than the Lakers the day we played them as well, but I'm not ready to draw major conclusions from one game.

I don't think Pop became a way worse coach over the last 6 years, but I do think his talent level change. Maybe you think he's a bad coach now and he was great then?

I think he good coach because he get everything out of his players. Plus he make everybody accountable of there play. Stotts don't if does it's behind closed doors but doubt that too. Because your not winning championship anymore don't mean your bad coach it's just don't have the talent like the old days. But if you get your team playing together on both ends you eventually going the right direction.

 

[Tince]

I think he good coach because he get everything out of his players. Plus he make everybody accountable of there play. Stotts don't if does it's behind closed doors but doubt that too. Because your not winning championship anymore don't mean your bad coach it's just don't have the talent like the old days. But if you get your team playing together on both ends you eventually going the right direction.

I agree with you that Pop is not a bad coach.

I don't dare try to judge accountability as I'm not privy to any discussions Pop or Stotts has with his players. I've personally had coaches who I would have said held me accountable, some by yelling during games, others by speaking softly behind closed doors.

Execution and accountability are very different. Pop has had teams that have not executed well, but I wouldn't say that it's proof he doesn't hold his players accountable.

Personally, I think the "accountabilty" knock on coaches is right there with the "effort" knock on players. Its what us fan like to use as a reason to why a player is or is not playing well, when we can't put our finger on the real reason.

Not to get too off topic, but it's amazing how often a slow player gets labeled as lacking effort or a fast player is pegged as a hustle guy, when really, it's just their athleticism. Michael Lewis wrote a book "The Undoing Project" where there was a chapter mentioned how GMs falsely labeled Marc Gasol for things like that. Interesting read for anyone who likes that stuff.

 

[royo]

Wasn't a championship team to start... certainly not without Nurk and CJ.

You probbaly tight, Terry, but I don't want to read it again and again.

 

[Tince]

You probbaly tight, Terry, but I don't want to read it again and again.

It would be a quiet board if only original thoughts were allowed. Surely you've never repeated your critisms on here, have you?

 

[DUB]

I quite enjoyed the first three quarters. The last quarter? Not so much.

Congratulations to Patty Mills!

Mills became the NBA’s all-time leader in three-pointers made off the bench for one team.

He passed former Spurs teammate Manu Ginobili with his 930th three to finish with 21 points in a win over Portland.

https://www.news.com.au/sport/baske...y/news-story/36217a8be41cd8e2fadd5aea162f786c

 

[royo]

It would be a quiet board if only original thoughts were allowed. Surely you've never repeated your critisms on here, have you?

What I mean is I can already read postseason interview with Stotts. Same as last season.


Got nothing against you personally. Don't know how you find bright side in this After all it's just basketball. But I'm guessing season is over for Blazers.

 

[Lanny]

So CJ is out for a whole week. Really hope this doesn't slow down the hot start he's had.

He's out for five weeks.

 

[kjironman1]

After all it's just basketball. But I'm guessing season is over for Blazers.

Well the last time a season was over for a team on the 14th game of a season with a winning record was never. My bet is you will watch another game. Yes it's just basketball but it's the Blazers.

 

[UKRAINEFAN]

Reading some quotes by Spurs players. They seem to understand that if they can get Aldridge comfortable and hitting shots, it makes the offense so much easier for the rest of the team. They felt that was the key last night. Does Stotts understand that?

 

[Blazers Roy]

Another tough loss for coach Smiley.



Did you guys know LaMarcus likes to pick and pop?

 

[TBpup]

Another tough loss for coach Smiley.



Did you guys know LaMarcus likes to pick and pop?

That must be a brand new wrinkle because Stotts acted like he'd never seen it before....and of course, made no adjustments whatsoever.
Hey Walnut, he has only made his entire career out of that shot. Hello!!!

 

[Blazers Roy]

That must be a brand new wrinkle because Stotts acted like he'd never seen it before....and of course, made no adjustments whatsoever.
Hey Walnut, he has only made his entire career out of that shot. Hello!!!

Terry after LMA's first bucket: "Hey! this play looks familiar!"

Terry after the final whistle: "Oh, that's right!! i designed that play!"

 

[royo]

Well the last time a season was over for a team on the 14th game of a season with a winning record was never. My bet is you will watch another game. Yes it's just basketball but it's the Blazers.

Nurk done, Collins done, CJ done. Sounds familiar.

 

[AldoTrapani]

Nurk done, Collins done, CJ done. Sounds familiar.

Blow it up

 

[stampedehero]

You all know what happened. Here is the box score.
Spurs vs. Trail Blazers - Box Score - January 18, 2021 - ESPN

 

[e_blazer]

Nurk done, Collins done, CJ done. Sounds familiar.

Of those guys, only Collins is likely done for the season. Nurk and CJ are likely to be back well before the end of regular season. Collins may be too, depending on how his ankle heals.

 

[e_blazer]

Blow it up

Exactly what in your mind constitutes "blowing it up"?

 

[THE HCP]

Exactly what in your mind constitutes "blowing it up"?

Probably his date for tonight. #InflatableSheep

 

[royo]

Of those guys, only Collins is likely done for the season. Nurk and CJ are likely to be back well before the end of regular season. Collins may be too, depending on how his ankle heals.

Lucky guess. We were fighting through injuries, but after CJ and Nurk came back we manage to clinch 8 place. It was hard, hard season and I'm proud of this team. Bla bla. Terry Stotts.
Move the ball!!!

 

[blazerkor]

Lucky guess. We were fighting through injuries, but after CJ and Nurk came back we manage to clinch 8 place. It was hard, hard season and I'm proud of this team. Bla bla. Terry Stotts.
Move the ball!!!

We still haven't seen this team 100% healthy in Terry's system. Neil "Snake oil Salesman" Olshey (sorry to any actual snake oil salesman who might read this)

 

[Tince]

Spurs making everything

Facts... we suck!

no defense, no rebounding. that's game.

getting stomped now, so fun

We need to make a roster and/or coaching change. It’s pretty clear we will be competing for the play-in game and 4 or 5 game first round series if we make it

Wasting another 7 game homestand

Is this the right game thread?

 

[riverman]

WE KEPT THEM UNDER 70! THERE'S HOPE!!

 

[riverman]

Probably his date for tonight. #InflatableSheep

BAM

 

[riverman]

Ant sprained his ankle...won't return....it's going to be CJ Elleby time soon.