Game Thread GAME# 29: BLAZERS @ HORNETS - DECEMBER 16, 2017 - SATURDAY, 4:00 PM (PST), NBCSNW

[BonesJones]

Personally because I know who Turner is as a player I don't find him all that frustrating.
However I can't stand to watch Batum play. Batum's one of the most gifted players in the league and can do it all.
Only problem unless he's playing his former team every night he's not locked in.
I'd take Aminu 10 times out of 10 over Batum, and I'd frankly take Turner 10 times out of 10.

So you'd take Turner because he's obviously less talented so it's not as frustrating?

 

[KingSpeed]

Lmao. Are you not watching the game? When has Turner hit 5 threes in a game? I don't think he's ever hit 3...

Dude SMALL SAMPLE SIZE

BATUM
FG 37%
3pt 22%

 

[SIeepwalker]

Batum can't shoot.

They have the same eFG% this year, and that's with Batum having the worst shooting year of his carrer...

 

[chris_in_pdx]

Nic Batum = Darlington Nagbe

 

[KingSpeed]

Personally because I know who Turner is as a player I don't find him all that frustrating.
However I can't stand to watch Batum play. Batum's one of the most gifted players in the league and can do it all.
Only problem unless he's playing his former team every night he's not locked in.
I'd take Aminu 10 times out of 10 over Batum, and I'd frankly take Turner 10 times out of 10.

Same

 

[BonesJones]

Batum is 37% from field and 22% from three this year. I'm honestly more happy with Turner's midrange game.

Yeah, 14 games after coming back from injury. He's a 36% shooter over his other 600+ games... which sample do you think is more reflective of his shooting ability?

 

[ripcityboy]

Didn't some on this board compare Pat to Majerle? Snikes! Whatever gave him that idea. Pats's athletic but Thunder Dan was like another species.

 

[BlazerBeav]

This team never makes anything easy. 9-0 run to start the 4th and open a 16-point lead, only to do nothing the next 3 minues and give 8 points right back.

 

[illmatic99]

I don't get this lineup. How deep in the doghouse is Moe? sheesh

 

[KingSpeed]

Yeah, 14 games after coming back from injury. He's a 36% shooter over his other 600+ games... which sample do you think is more reflective of his shooting ability?

He's inconsistent. He was HORRIBLE in 2015 playoffs. I was glad to see him gone and don't want him back.

 

[BonesJones]

I'm honestly more happy with Turner's midrange game.

Lmao... Dude gets ~0.8PPS (at best) on midrange jumpshots over his entire career. About 0.9PPS this year. Over the course of the season, he HURTS the team when he shoots those.

 

[KingSpeed]

This team never makes anything easy. 9-0 run to start the 4th and open a 16-point lead, only to do nothing the next 3 minues and give 8 points right back.

Well we got that 9-0 very easily. Easy come easy go sometimes. It's fine. We weren't gonna shut them out for the whole quarter.

 

[Darkwebs]

I don't get this lineup. How deep in the doghouse is Moe? sheesh

He's so deep in it, that we should just start calling him Moe Barkless

 

[BonesJones]

He's inconsistent. He was HORRIBLE in 2015 playoffs. I was glad to see him gone and don't want him back.

Would you rather have someone who's inconsistently good and bad or someone who's consistently bad?

 

[ripcityboy]

Nic Batum = Darlington Nagbe

Surprised you had the guts to say that. Kudos. Nagbe was good at dribbling and keeping the ball. That's about it. Had some flares where he show the ability to create though.

 

[SIeepwalker]

I don't get this lineup. How deep in the doghouse is Moe? sheesh

He's in dnpcd -land right where he should be

 

[H.C.]

So you'd take Turner because he's obviously less talented so it's not as frustrating?

Pretty much.
Turner you generally know what to expect from.
Batum you could get the guy who goes 3 of 5 from three in 1 quarter. Looks to post up smaller guys, attacks the rim and looks aggressive.
Or you could get the piece of drift wood who throws casual cross court passes which lead to turnovers.
Or the Batum who could so easily dunk the ball on Westbricks head only to choose to lay the ball up and miss the shot.

Personally I'll take the guy you generally know what you're going to get, rather than the guy you don't.

 

[KingSpeed]

Speaking of Parsons... Who would trade Turner for him straight up?

Not me

 

[BonesJones]

This would be a very bad loss.

 

[ripcityboy]

Fucking hero ball.

 

[BonesJones]

Not me

Considering you trashed Turner constantly when he joined, it's weird that you overrate him now.

Oh wait... No it's not.

 

[KingSpeed]

Would you rather have someone who's inconsistently good and bad or someone who's consistently bad?

Who are we comparing him to? This started as a conversation about the trade. I'd rather have Vonleh. If you're talking about Turner, I'm happy with him. His midrange game is very reliable.

 

[BonesJones]

Pretty much.
Turner you generally know what to expect from.
Batum you could get the guy who goes 3 of 5 from three in 1 quarter. Looks to post up smaller guys, attacks the rim and looks aggressive.
Or you could get the piece of drift wood who throws casual cross court passes which lead to turnovers.
Or the Batum who could so easily dunk the ball on Westbricks head only to choose to lay the ball up and miss the shot.

Personally I'll take the guy you generally know what you're going to get, rather than the guy you don't.

Let's field a D-League team because we'll know they'll consistently suck.

 

[ripcityboy]

I love Nurk but he's not worth major dough. We have to get a wing who can ISO and penetrate.

 

[B-Roy]

Someone fire terry stotts and his idiotic lineups

 

[BonesJones]

Who are we comparing him to? This started as a conversation about the trade. I'd rather have Vonleh. If you're talking about Turner, I'm happy with him. His midrange game is very reliable.

Reliably bad

 

[KingSpeed]

Considering you trashed Turner constantly when he joined, it's weird that you overrate him now.

Oh wait... No it's not.

When he joined, he turned the ball over constantly and had NBA historically bad +/-. Mid season, he turned it around and he hasn't bothered me at all.

 

[BonesJones]

I love Nuek but he's not worth major dough. We have to get a wing who can ISO and penetrate.

Thinking we maybe trade him for one and have Collins as our COTF.

 

[BonesJones]

Seriously Nurk?

 

[DUB]

It feels weird saying this, but I wish we had Leonard in the game right now.

Draw Howard out of the paint for Dame, and CJ to drive; or if Howard sags, give Leonard wide open threes from the top of the key.