Game Thread GAME# 39: PELICANS @ BLAZERS - MARCH 16, 2021 - TUESDAY, 7:00, TNT & NBCSNW

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Whose broadcast do you usually prefer?

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riverman said:
easy.... I trust the front office....its why I'm not all pissy about the team all the time
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The front office who has failed time and time again? After awhile, it needs to change.

Dame has saved stolshey. It's a fact at this point and not up for debate.
 
riverman said:
easy.... I trust the front office....its why I'm not all pissy about the team all the time
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"I trust the front office. "
There is no arguing with that because it wouldn't be a reality based discussion. There is good and bad with every arron office, but Neil and Trust are not words that historically should be put together.
/end.
 
wizenheimer said:
Since Adelman was fired Jaynes has trashed just about everybody in the upper levels of Blazer management and coaching, including Whitsitt, PA, and KP. Jaynes was the original Portland-sports muckraker before Canzano
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He sure was. Still can't watch him without wondering why he is in the position he is in. This whole "God Father" goofy hat to hide the age spots on his bald head thing he has going right now seems a bit odd as well. Dwight Jaynes is far from the Godfather of the Blazers. Yes it's like John Canzano becoming a talking head on a pregame show to me. Weird Choice?
 
Wade Garrett said:
Trust me, Riverman.....You don't need this place....I don't post here anymore, and guess what? I am just as informed on whats going on, and the games have been even more enjoyable, as I can depend on my own logical views, and not have to share them with posters, who for the most part, speak emotionally, not intellectually.
Want to know how to enjoy this place Riverman?..Want to find the humor again?..Wait till after the game is over, then go through the game threads....There just isn't enough crow to go around!!! (Aldo, whatever your handle is.....You're a complete and total joke....always disappears when things are good..??)
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I’m here good and bad. I’ve said multiple times I’ve been wrong. But one thing I’m not wrong on is wanting a better and sustainable team for Dame. What’s wrong with that? Just because I don’t blindly root for a team that’s ranked dead last defensively who have no offensive creativity whatsoever. Sorry but I want better. Maybe the GM should think like me more
 
riverman said:
don't think that hasn't crossed my mind...along with about 50 former forum members who used to laugh and humor up the place...I'll leave you to your Aldo group ...have fun with that
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Have to admit a bunch of posters are no longer here because they simply don't like being bashed for liking the team and rooting for it. It's true. Started about two or three years ago. They slowly just quit commenting. Way too negative.
 
I remember after Trader Bob who failed to get a ship and he should have, but its tough to do, so that cool. He was replaced by supposedly one of the better round ball brains and executives in the league and he no relation to Steve Nash. Yeah improved on everything, right? Oh yes, then Patterson boy did he takes us up a notch or two. Pritchard was decent but run out of town. Cho several here in this forum thought because he was numbers guy miracles would happen. Well, we know how he improve this team and MJ's. Maybe we should go after Phil Jackson the proven winner, he's not as old as Joe is he?
 
riverman said:
He wasn't talking to you...that logical enough for you? ...Read my game posts last night and tell me who was emo and illogical throughout the game....yeah...that's right...all I did was cheer...your superpowers are failing you Nate because arguing isn't actually your strong suit.
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I'm not arguing with you right now. And I was talking to him. Not you. Is that logical enough for you?
 
kjironman1 said:
Have to admit a bunch of posters are no longer here because they simply don't like being bashed for liking the team and rooting for it. It's true. Started about two or three years ago. They slowly just quit commenting. Way too negative.
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There are so many things wrong with this statement.

Who here doesn't like the team? That's why we're here right?

Who here isn't rooting for the team? Anyone?

And finally, who exactly is bashing people for liking the team? I need examples. If anything, it's the "homers" who like to attack people who they view as negative. Did you not just see River question if those people are really fans of the team?
 
Natebishop3 said:
There are so many things wrong with this statement.

Who here doesn't like the team? That's why we're here right?

Who here isn't rooting for the team? Anyone?

And finally, who exactly is bashing people for liking the team? I need examples. If anything, it's the "homers" who like to attack people who they view as negative. Did you not just see River question if those people are really fans of the team?
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This place has always been a hotbed for argument, not just discussion. I know I've only been on S2 for seven years and maybe the change took place before I made the migration from OLive but the only reason I've seen an uptick in people being called homers is that some in here are defending an unprecedented run of mediocrity by Olshey and Sotts and telling people that don't want to accept that nonsense that they aren't fans. Then comes the retort by those that are critical and back and forth we go.

The solution is simple. The team ends this madness and then I go back to being a homer. I've been called a homer until the last few years when I realized that Olshey, Stotts and/or CJ had to go. We need Olshey to go so a real basketball person can decide the fate of Stotts and the roster. Then I'll go back to being a "homer". The problem for many in here is we just don't understand why our team is setting records for how long a head coach and GM can stay with a team without any significant success.
 
blazerkor said:
This place has always been a hotbed for argument, not just discussion.
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Even arguments are ok in my eyes, as long as it's about the Blazers or the NBA. The bummer is when the responses start being about the other person being blind, dumb, embarrassed, "i bet you didn't play basketball", etc. I know it's a deflective tactic, but I wish it happened less. I'll be the first to admit I've got sucked into those myself, so I'm not claiming to be perfect.

We should all be comfortable with our opinions being challenged. I appreciate when someone provides accurate, dissenting information to a topic and isn't just making up quotes or using hyperbole to make things better/worse than they are.
 
Natebishop3 said:
There are so many things wrong with this statement.

Who here doesn't like the team? That's why we're here right?

Who here isn't rooting for the team? Anyone?

And finally, who exactly is bashing people for liking the team? I need examples. If anything, it's the "homers" who like to attack people who they view as negative. Did you not just see River question if those people are really fans of the team?
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don’t even waste your time your talking to the biggest homers
 
blazerkor said:
This place has always been a hotbed for argument, not just discussion. I know I've only been on S2 for seven years and maybe the change took place before I made the migration from OLive but the only reason I've seen an uptick in people being called homers is that some in here are defending an unprecedented run of mediocrity by Olshey and Sotts and telling people that don't want to accept that nonsense that they aren't fans. Then comes the retort by those that are critical and back and forth we go.

The solution is simple. The team ends this madness and then I go back to being a homer. I've been called a homer until the last few years when I realized that Olshey, Stotts and/or CJ had to go. We need Olshey to go so a real basketball person can decide the fate of Stotts and the roster. Then I'll go back to being a "homer". The problem for many in here is we just don't understand why our team is setting records for how long a head coach and GM can stay with a team without any significant success.
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There’s literally no instances where one head coache stays on one team without a championship let alone a finals appearance. Shit 10 years and not even a single conference finals win! 10 years!! That’s ridiculous
 
AldoTrapani said:
There’s literally no instances where one head coache stays on one team without a championship let alone a finals appearance. Shit 10 years and not even a single conference finals win! 10 years!! That’s ridiculous
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Coaches dont win ships players do, ask POP, ask Lebron.
 
Tince said:
Even arguments are ok in my eyes, as long as it's about the Blazers or the NBA. The bummer is when the responses start being about the other person being blind, dumb, embarrassed, "i bet you didn't play basketball", etc. I know it's a deflective tactic, but I wish it happened less. I'll be the first to admit I've got sucked into those myself, so I'm not claiming to be perfect.

We should all be comfortable with our opinions being challenged. I appreciate when someone provides accurate, dissenting information to a topic and isn't just making up quotes or using hyperbole to make things better/worse than they are.
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Yeah in a post saying that someone's point of view on a specific subject is blind, dumb or embarrassing doesn't bother me. If the person is being called those things that's against the rules. I hate the "you didn't play basketball" or "you didn't play at the level I did" shit. That's just lame. I actually do not mind hyperbole if it's just in an opinion and not being touted as backed up by facts, I find that amusing.

Overall I definitely agree with you that some of this negativity needs to be curtailed. That being said, I don't see that it's more extreme now than before. I just think when someone points out that it started two or three years ago that it's kind of funny because that's when any normal team would have fired Stotts, Olshey or both. Sports fans and ownership in general never settle for mediocre stagnation.
 
AldoTrapani said:
There’s literally no instances where one head coache stays on one team without a championship let alone a finals appearance. Shit 10 years and not even a single conference finals win! 10 years!! That’s ridiculous
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It is nine until the end of the season but I agree with you that it's ridiculous. What I find more ridiculous is that some fans in here are outraged by the idea of changing the head coach and or the GM at this point. I'm confused by them accepting the duration of mediocrity but it's mind boggling that they attack those of us that want change after what is already an abnormal amount of time, saying that we're not fans because we want new management or coaching. Just some weird stuff.
 
blazerkor said:
Yeah in a post saying that someone's point of view on a specific subject is blind, dumb or embarrassing doesn't bother me. If the person is being called those things that's against the rules. I hate the "you didn't play basketball" or "you didn't play at the level I did" shit. That's just lame. I actually do not mind hyperbole if it's just in an opinion and not being touted as backed up by facts, I find that amusing.

Overall I definitely agree with you that some of this negativity needs to be curtailed. That being said, I don't see that it's more extreme now than before. I just think when someone points out that it started two or three years ago that it's kind of funny because that's when any normal team would have fired Stotts, Olshey or both. Sports fans and ownership in general never settle for mediocre stagnation.
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Agree that it seems like it the same since Ive been here form OL 6 years or so? I don't mind banter back and forth as everyone is entitled to their pov, if its civil and zero attacks on a person, its when it gets to crank and personal winning at all cost that bugs me.
 
OneSport3 said:
Bad coaches can damn sure inhibit you from winning ships.
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Bad coaches usually breed bad chemistry and poor personal relationships within the team. Good coaches work on overall growth for a team and stay competitive. Great coaches do all that and win Championships.
One thing is for certain Stotts falls into that "Good' coach area but probably not in that "Great" coach area. I would welcome a great coach at any time and if Stotts does get fired i will try to support the next one as long as he is worth supporting. (I didn't much care for PJ Carlisimo. He was tough to support.)

The part that I dislike is the vulgar personal attacks on him. He does a bunch of really good things and the team has been for the most part successful. Yes we all would love for them to get a Championship again. Terry Stotts just like Nate McMillan before him are very good coaches and some of the most respected individuals in the league. They have earned and deserve respect in my opinion. Go to any game thread and read the comments. The internet has taken away personal accountability for saying things that nobody would have used to say about other people. Heck you don't have to go to any game thread just read the first 15-20 pages of this one.
Then some people wonder why a bunch of people who used to post here simply don't any longer.
 
blazerkor said:
It is nine until the end of the season but I agree with you that it's ridiculous. What I find more ridiculous is that some fans in here are outraged by the idea of changing the head coach and or the GM at this point. I'm confused by them accepting the duration of mediocrity but it's mind boggling that they attack those of us that want change after what is already an abnormal amount of time, saying that we're not fans because we want new management or coaching. Just some weird stuff.
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Extremely weird. My only theory is these are the fans that don’t care about championships. They care about being an ok team. Make the playoffs. Have a decent first round and that’s it. That’s all they care about.
 
Hoopguru said:
Agree that it seems like it the same since Ive been here form OL 6 years or so? I don't mind banter back and forth as everyone is entitled to their pov, if its civil and zero attacks on a person, its when it gets to crank and personal winning at all cost that bugs me.
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I'll just say that there might be some shit that goes on in here that is in bad taste but it's nothing compared to Jet on OLive if you remember that guy. I never even engaged with that guy he was just purely toxic. I think you're right the OLive migration was about six years ago now.
 
blazerkor said:
I'll just say that there might be some shit that goes on in here that is in bad taste but it's nothing compared to Jet on OLive if you remember that guy. I never even engaged with that guy he was just purely toxic. I think you're right the OLive migration was about six years ago now.
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Yeah I remember Jet. The other guy that used to attack and get attacked was Bendy.
 
blazerkor said:
I'll just say that there might be some shit that goes on in here that is in bad taste but it's nothing compared to Jet on OLive if you remember that guy. I never even engaged with that guy he was just purely toxic. I think you're right the OLive migration was about six years ago now.
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They shut it down completely three years ago. Yes Jet was a problem. There was a guy named Blazem that was a bit toxic. We all knew Cup.
I wonder where Stipulation went? Stip City!
 
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