Game Thread GAME# 76: BLAZERS @ PISTONS - MARCH 30, 2019 - SATURDAY, 4:00 PM, NBCSNW

[BonesJones]

Do you really believe some of this stuff? You place yourself so high up on this basketball mountain above everybody else. With all your "knowledge" of the game because you played against some Community College kids? For awhile I thought you were joking. But you are very serious with this stuff man.

These guys are so amazing at the game and don't even get off the bench. The guys in the G-League are fucking studs man. Guys who go over to Europe are absolute beasts and they can't even get run in the NBA summer league. I really think you hold too high of an opinion of yourself or too low of one for these players...... or maybe a combo of both.

And not even trying to be a dick, I'm just stating that I grew up playing everyday in the parks with 4 guys at least that went on to the NBA- Terrell Brandon, Damon Stoudamire, Doleac, Ime Udoka....... and guys who ALMOST made it, like Aaron Miles and Michael Lee and 20 or so others that played D1 and then Europe, like Matt Santangelo, Orlando Williams, Antoine Stoudamire, Brandon Brooks and the list goes on. I remember we picked up Dunleavy Jr. on our summer league team back in '98 even......... I could handle myself at the park with NO problem, but when these guys all showed up, it was over. I was all about setting screens and getting rebounds, because they were all at another level. And it wasn't even close with these guys. And that was just pickup or summer/city league type games. Dickau showed up once and looked like god damn John Stockton against us. Nothing we could do about it. Shit, my first year in this business Jeff McGinnis was out on the court early and asked if I wanted to shoot around with him. I scored on him and started talking smack because some of our TV crew was watching. He got pissed and started playing for real.....SHIIIIIIIIIT. He dunked on me and stole the ball for the next 10 possessions from me.
ANd I even played one on one in our hotel in SF once against Steve Blake. It was funny man.....he was taking it so easy on me and I could tell. I started giving him a little smack talk and it was like he flipped a switch on and became White Micahel Jordan.
I'm not quite sure you realize how really good they are. I think you need to give a little bit more respect to these people. Bro if you had Wade Baldwin guarding you, he'd snatch the ball from you before your first dribble. And he's flipping burgers somewhere right now.

Sorry man, I just had to speak up. Beating some failed actor/uber driver is one thing, but I'm quite confident you would not find much success in the real world of hoops. And that's OK.

This isnt even close to being on point with anything Ive been saying. Just another person that likes to twist my words or intentions (or completely make them up) just in order argue with me.

1.) You quoted "knowledge". I havent used the word knowledge in these conversations once. O never said or even came close to saying anything makes me more knowledgable about basketball. I believe it does help me have a better understanding of what it's like to play against great basketball players than someone who hasnt played High School basketball. That's nothing like what you're trying to portray.

2.) I know these guys are amazing. I said theyd burn me. I dont I can hang with them. How thinking I could shoot 2 for 17 and get off a decent amount of shots contradict any of this? Somehow saying that means I think I should be a pro? Or that I think I could hang with those guys? Or I think I could dribble against Wade Baldwin?

I know I can't hang with these guys. I'd get destroyed in every area of the game. Im not debating that, so I dont understand why you're trying to tell me that. I never said anything like that. Ive played against some talented players in regards to your average person though, so im defending myself against someone who's talking down the team I was on by saying he thinks his intramural teams were better. That doesnt make me think I could hang with NBA players at all, and I've tried to be clear that I know I cant. But people see one thing and try to make it into something completely different and then Im having people argue against things that I never said.

Me thinking I could go 2 for 17 on the shots Portland got in that game (many of them wide open) doesnt mean anything more than just that.

 

[hoopsjock]

I don't think 90's era OSU football had any athleticism.

I said late 90's man. I'm talking about the peak OSU years with teams that went to bowl games (and the Fiesta Bowl).

 

[hoopsjock]

Do you really believe some of this stuff? You place yourself so high up on this basketball mountain above everybody else. With all your "knowledge" of the game because you played against some Community College kids? For awhile I thought you were joking. But you are very serious with this stuff man.

These guys are so amazing at the game and don't even get off the bench. The guys in the G-League are fucking studs man. Guys who go over to Europe are absolute beasts and they can't even get run in the NBA summer league. I really think you hold too high of an opinion of yourself or too low of one for these players...... or maybe a combo of both.

And not even trying to be a dick, I'm just stating that I grew up playing everyday in the parks with 4 guys at least that went on to the NBA- Terrell Brandon, Damon Stoudamire, Doleac, Ime Udoka....... and guys who ALMOST made it, like Aaron Miles and Michael Lee and 20 or so others that played D1 and then Europe, like Matt Santangelo, Orlando Williams, Antoine Stoudamire, Brandon Brooks and the list goes on. I remember we picked up Dunleavy Jr. on our summer league team back in '98 even......... I could handle myself at the park with NO problem, but when these guys all showed up, it was over. I was all about setting screens and getting rebounds, because they were all at another level. And it wasn't even close with these guys. And that was just pickup or summer/city league type games. Dickau showed up once and looked like god damn John Stockton against us. Nothing we could do about it. Shit, my first year in this business Jeff McGinnis was out on the court early and asked if I wanted to shoot around with him. I scored on him and started talking smack because some of our TV crew was watching. He got pissed and started playing for real.....SHIIIIIIIIIT. He dunked on me and stole the ball for the next 10 possessions from me.
ANd I even played one on one in our hotel in SF once against Steve Blake. It was funny man.....he was taking it so easy on me and I could tell. I started giving him a little smack talk and it was like he flipped a switch on and became White Micahel Jordan.
I'm not quite sure you realize how really good they are. I think you need to give a little bit more respect to these people. Bro if you had Wade Baldwin guarding you, he'd snatch the ball from you before your first dribble. And he's flipping burgers somewhere right now.

Sorry man, I just had to speak up. Beating some failed actor/uber driver is one thing, but I'm quite confident you would not find much success in the real world of hoops. And that's OK.

Just because you're not talented enough to hang with those guys doesn't mean others aren't. Bones never said he could play in the G League or overseas. Not even close to what he said.

For the record, I've played against several players from your list and with Bones. He could absolutely play like he belongs on the court at a park with those guys. He wouldn't dominate but the difference between Bones and the guys you mentioned is way smaller than the difference between Bones and Kingspeed or several others in this forum.

 

[THE HCP]

Just because you're not talented enough to hang with those guys doesn't mean others aren't. Bones never said he could play in the G League or overseas. Not even close to what he said.

For the record, I've played against several players from your list and with Bones. He could absolutely play like he belongs on the court at a park with those guys. He wouldn't dominate but the difference between Bones and the guys you mentioned is way smaller than the difference between Bones and Kingspeed or several others in this forum.

Am I mistaken or didn’t he say he could hang with today’s NBA players. And I brought up g league and euro players because I don’t think he could even hang with THEM.
And please don’t bring up JinxSpeed in this. My middle school aged daughter could beat him let alone my high school aged son.

So you are saying that this Bones can play and belongs on the court with the list of players I posted about above. The LEAST skilled or successful of which led the PAC-10 in scoring and the other played for Georgetown and Gonzaga?

I just want to double check with you on this claim. Make sure I read that right.
Because he seems to agree because he liked your post.

 

[hoopsjock]

Am I mistaken or didn’t he say he could hang with today’s NBA players. And I brought up g league and euro players because I don’t think he could even hang with THEM.
And please don’t bring up JinxSpeed in this. My middle school aged daughter could beat him let alone my high school aged son.

So you are saying that this Bones can play and belongs on the court with the list of players I posted about above. The LEAST skilled or successful of which led the PAC-10 in scoring and the other played for Georgetown and Gonzaga?

I just want to double check with you on this claim. Make sure I read that right.
Because he seems to agree because he liked your post.

Did you read his response to your post just before mine? He simply stated if he could get 17 shots in an NBA game that he could hit 2 of them. No delusions of grandeur that he could make it to the NBA, he never said he could play in the G-League, he never said he could play overseas. In fact he said several times that he couldn't do those things.

People started saying he couldn't get a shot up in the NBA. I've played in games with NBA players and I've gotten my shot off just fine. So knowing how good Bones is I think he could in fact make a bucket or two if given the green light to shoot 17 times in a game. That doesn't mean he thinks he can play in the NBA. 2-17 is terrible. I don't get why people are changing it from anything but that original statement.

 

[H.C.]

I remember playing against Kevin Love in high school.
His dad got super pissed in a summer game at the refs because I came from the weakside and tossed his shot into the bleachers.
We weren't even taking summer games that serious but his dad holy shit.
Never thought that fatty had any game whatsoever.
But he changed his body and put in work and went onto average like 25/15 the next year.

One of my former coaches/now friend played against Richard Jefferson in high school. I'm told RJ dominated those games.
But he had no issues getting shots off.

Getting a shot off is easy. Winning is another thing.
@BonesJones never said he could compete with nba players. He said he could go 2-17 from three.
Which I'm sure a lot of people could go 2-17 from three. I bet most on this forum could go 0-17 too!

Now getting 17 shots in an NBA game? That's a different story.

 

[BonesJones]

I remember playing against Kevin Love in high school.
His dad got super pissed in a summer game at the refs because I came from the weakside and tossed his shot into the bleachers.
We weren't even taking summer games that serious but his dad holy shit.
Never thought that fatty had any game whatsoever.
But he changed his body and put in work and went onto average like 25/15 the next year.

One of my former coaches/now friend played against Richard Jefferson in high school. I'm told RJ dominated those games.
But he had no issues getting shots off.

Getting a shot off is easy. Winning is another thing.
@BonesJones never said he could compete with nba players. He said he could go 2-17 from three.
Which I'm sure a lot of people could go 2-17 from three. I bet most on this forum could go 0-17 too!

Now getting 17 shots in an NBA game? That's a different story.

Didn't say I'd get them all off though either. Guys be acting like I couldn't get any off, as if I'm 5'7 with a Meyers Leonard release.

I just know they had a ton of open spot up looks with enough space for me to get it off, and I think I could shoot 2 for 17. Somehow that means I think I'm as good as NBA players and that community college is equivalent to the NBA level... I love this forum

 

[H.C.]

Didn't say I'd get them all off though either. Guys be acting like I couldn't get any off, as if I'm 5'7 with a Meyers Leonard release.

I just know they had a ton of open spot up looks with enough space for me to get it off, and I think I could shoot 2 for 17. Somehow that means I think I'm as good as NBA players and that community college is equivalent to the NBA level... I love this forum

Now what I will say is that people are very correct in saying NBA players have different levels they'll play at.
But what they're not understanding is that the times they've gone 1 on 1 against an NBA player is very different from getting an open look in a 5 on 5 game.
Which is what Bones is talking about.
1 on 1 I haven't seen anywhere @BonesJones is claiming he could get shots off. But within the flow of a 5v5 game? Yeah he could do that.

 

[BonesJones]

Now what I will say is that people are very correct in saying NBA players have different levels they'll play at.
But what they're not understanding is that the times they've gone 1 on 1 against an NBA player is very different from getting an open look in a 5 on 5 game.
Which is what Bones is talking about.
1 on 1 I haven't seen anywhere @BonesJones is claiming he could get shots off. But within the flow of a 5v5 game? Yeah he could do that.

Exactly. Which is why I specifically said "give me the same shots that Portland shot and I bet I could go 2 for 17".

 

[riverman]

I've played against much more talented players than they have,

You realize this is just probably not true which is where you go off the rails here...a lot of former and even current athletes post here...don't get too full of yourself Bones...you have basketball skills but work on those people skills eh? Pride is good...arrogance ...not so much..have fun ..you're playing a guy who's sung the anthem at a game, spoken at the UN, starred in a hit TV show, recorded an album, followed the Blazers around the country and moved back to see all the home games this year....respect...pass it on..Eric has done a lot with his life ...gotta love his passion for hoops....

 

[BonesJones]

You realize this is just probably not true which is where you go off the rails here...a lot of former and even current athletes post here...don't get too full of yourself Bones...you have basketball skills but work on those people skills eh? Pride is good...arrogance ...not so much..have fun ..you're playing a guy who's sung the anthem at a game, spoken at the UN, starred in a hit TV show, recorded and album, followed the Blazers around the country and moved back to see all the home games this year....respect...pass it on..Eric has done a lot with his life

Oh, is it a normal thing to have played against D1-caliber and fringe NBA-level prospects? I'm arrogant because I don't think that's the case? I'm arrogant because I don't think everyone responding to me like that has played HS basketball? Seriously? Y'all read into things the wrong way constantly.

How does any of this mean I don't respect Eric? What the hell are you talking about?

 

[riverman]

I'm arrogant because I don't think that's the case? I'm arrogant because I don't think everyone responding to me like that has played HS basketball? Seriously? Y'all read into things the wrong way constantly.

yeah...in my view...you are but for whatever reason...you are belittling people you don't know by assuming you're king of the basketball mountain...you're 22..or so...It'll pass..and that's just my 2 cents...no big deal

 

[riverman]

How does any of this mean I don't respect Eric? What the hell are you talking about?

Never said you didn't...said I respect him

 

[riverman]

Oh, is it a normal thing to have played against D1-caliber and fringe NBA-level prospects?

for serious or aspiring basketball players...yes..it's normal..for college students in pickup games it's normal...sometimes in public courts it's normal..what's not normal is thinking you're alone in this experience.

 

[BonesJones]

yeah...in my view...you are but for whatever reason...you are belittling people you don't know by assuming you're king of the basketball mountain...you're 22..or so...It'll pass..and that's just my 2 cents...no big deal

Who am I belittling? How am I belittling?

Multiple people tell me I have "no idea" what the NBA level is like.
I state I think I've played against more talented players than some of them (I could've added "in an organized setting", maybe I'm wrong).
You tell me I need to work on my people skills.

And you're going to say I'm belittling people? Lmao. You're one of those posters that twists and misconstrues things so you can sit on your soapbox and preach.

Example: I think I'm the "King of the basketball mountain"? What the hell?

Just stop.

 

[riverman]

riverman out...y'all have fun

 

[BonesJones]

for serious or aspiring basketball players...yes..it's normal..for college students in pickup games it's normal...sometimes in public courts it's normal..what's not normal is thinking you're alone in this experience.

Again, maybe I'm wrong. It's not coming from a place of arrogance if I don't think that's normal. But you can say it does in order to try to preach at me.

I was also talking about in an organized context, but I didn't really specify that.

 

[BonesJones]

riverman out...y'all have fun

Bye.

 

[BonesJones]

Never said you didn't...said I respect him

You said "respect.... pass it on.... Eric has done a lot with his life" as if I didn't respect him.

Whatever.

 

[BonesJones]

Regardless, it's still absolutely ridiculous for someone to say I don't know what NBA or D1 college basketball is like because I think I could go 2 for 17 from 3 in an NBA game. The whole point of my defense is that I absolutely do, and people should know that. But if I question if someone else does, then it's bad.

 

[blazerboy30]

I, for one, am getting a kick out of you alone in this thread still ranting and telling everyone you're right.

Keep it going!

 

[THE HCP]

BUMP

 

[TorturedBlazerFan]

BUMP

You have some work to do the Minnesota game is starting heh

 

[riverman]

BUMP

DUMP!

 

[hoopsjock]

You have some work to do the Minnesota game is starting heh

He just proved how unimportant he is to the broadcast, lol. Good thing his boss doesn't realize that.