Game Thread GAME# 77: GRIZZLIES @ BLAZERS - APRIL 1, 2018 - SUNDAY, 6:00 PM (PDT), NBCSNW

[swish3]

Booing your own players, especially if you are leading or joining in with others, is definitely harmful to the Blazers and without question can be heard on the floor. You get a different perspective on fan sounds when you are on the floor than you can imagine when you are in the seats.

While it is normal to boo terrible calls by the zebras or poor plays by the opponents, it doesn't make sense for Blazer fans to boo Blazers, which will only tear them down.

 

[dviss1]

That's a damn lie. We gamble every time we click a thread in the OT section.

I stand by my post.

 

[Strenuus]

I stand by my post.

It was a joke, damnit!

 

[Strenuus]

Booing your own players, especially if you are leading or joining in with others, is definitely harmful to the Blazers and without question can be heard on the floor. You get a different perspective on fan sounds when you are on the floor than you can imagine when you are in the seats.

While it is normal to boo terrible calls by the zebras or poor plays by the opponents, it doesn't make sense for Blazer fans to boo Blazers, which will only tear them down.

lol. I love you so much. There is so much pie in your sky, my friend!

 

[Boob-No-More]

Oh and I don't do it to make myself feel better. I know it doesn't affect the players. lol. I'm smarter than all that. I just did it because it's a human reaction based on events happening that were of a downward trend, thus my executive function in my brain reasoned that putting my lips in such a fashion as to make the words "boo" come out crisply and cleanly needed to happen.

Also, for the record - the rest of the row with me booed, along with some others.

I guess I'm old school. I save my booing for the refs and the other team. I would never get any satisfaction out of booing a player on my own team. I may get frustrated when they play poorly, but rather than boo, I hope for improvement. Lack of effort and lack of improvement are my two biggest pet peeves.

This year, in his very limited minutes, I have seen both effort and improvement from Meyers. He's still not perfect, but that effort and improvement has earned my support, not my boos.

BNM

 

[dviss1]

Booing your own players, especially if you are leading or joining in with others, is definitely harmful to the Blazers and without question can be heard on the floor. You get a different perspective on fan sounds when you are on the floor than you can imagine when you are in the seats.

While it is normal to boo terrible calls by the zebras or poor plays by the opponents, it doesn't make sense for Blazer fans to boo Blazers, which will only tear them down.

Meyers should learn the lesson I taught mine:

As soon as you leave this house, no one gives a FUCK about you.

 

[Strenuus]

I guess I'm old school. I save my booing for the refs and the other team. I would never get any satisfaction out of booing a player on my own team. I may get frustrated when they play poorly, but rather than boo, I hope for improvement. Lack of effort and lack of improvement are my two biggest pet peeves.

This year, in his very limited minutes, I have seen both effort and improvement from Meyers. He's still not perfect, but that effort and improvement has earned my support, not my boos.

BNM

I explained what I booed for. I cheered him as well. We can do both.

His offensive game today was superb. I cheered that. I cheered the "GIVE ME THAT SHIT" rebound, and his quick decisions.

It probably didn't help that I didn't say this stuff until now (though I said it in general terms) cause I saw the old Meyers, but eh. You live and learn.

It's okay. I did both. Because we can, and it doesn't make us any less of a fan. Nor does it make you less of a fan for not booing... it's all about outlets, my friend.

 

[Boob-No-More]

I liked his play tonight. He actually played around the basket, played solid D, set solid screens, and made some GREAT passes.

I still agree his Kobe face is horrible tho.

And his answers to the post game interview questions seem to go on forever, but I was willing to cut him some slack tonight. It was his first meaningful minutes since December 11, and he made a positive contribution to a win. He really seemed to enjoy being out there tonight and I think that spilled over into his post game comments.

Plus, he really hasn't done many post game interviews this season. He had a lot of lost time to make up for.

BNM

 

[Strenuus]

Meyers should learn the lesson I taught mine:

As soon as you leave this house, no one gives a FUCK about you.

Yep. I had to learn this the hard way.

 

[Sarni]

I know Grizzlies were an easy opposition but I feel our first team is already good enough to go toe to toe with anybody in the league. It’s now the time to address our bench issues, we were without Harkless and Davis but still the players that played off the bench in this game were largely the ones who would get significant minutes anyway - our main back up point guard, shooting guard and a power forward. Aside from Meyers they all ended up with abysmal +/- which is mainly on Shabazz and Pat.

There was a period of time when Napier looked like one of the best second string point guards in the league but he has regressed badly over the last few weeks. If he carries on playing like this I would actually entertain the idea of giving his minutes to Baldwin in the dead rubber games this week to see what he can do.

I don’t think Pat has significant potential and over the last two months he has probably played himself of any good deal he might have got in the offseason.

I wouldn’t mind picking up a few veterans and cheap young players like VanVleet in the offseason. Strong bench will be key to building on this seasons success next year.

 

[kjironman1]

In fact, he was our best bench player in tonight's game. He finished a -1, but that wasn't his fault, it's a direct result of the fact the other guys he was playing with couldn't hit a shot to save their lives. Look at the other bench players: Pat - 24, Shabazz -15, Zach - 20, Biggie -12, Baldwin -14. Our bench sucked, but it had nothing to do with Meyers.

^^^^^This^^^^^

Thank you.

 

[kjironman1]

Comparatively speaking, this was a better Meyers no doubt. However, he still has the lapses and over-thinking. Offensively he was good. I have nothing bad to say about that. But defensively he still looked lost, (although one possession against brooks he did really well and brooks made a hell of a shot)... I shouldn't say he always looked lost... but there was times where he let a guard just get too deep. His rotations weren't really great. Compared to Collins who was almost always doing well rotation wise (except one that I recall) ..

I booed Meyers for a couple of boneheaded plays (mainly because it was so quick in succession, I think I got reminded) - but cheered him when he made sound... and more importantly, QUICK decisions.

There were some good meyers... and hopefully he can bring it because we need it the last few games. But we need Ed back in the worst way for more than just putting Meyers back on the bench.

I can always tell when a compliment has been granted by those who just want to hate the guy.
It's followed by However, But, But, But.......

There is no way they will ever simply say "He had a good game and he helped the Blazers win" then leave it at that.

 

[Mediocre Man]

The only time I have booed the Blazers is because of lack of effort.

 

[kjironman1]

The only time I have booed the Blazers is because of lack of effort.

Exactly. That is when i have problems. When i see dismal uninspired play. Not when i see a third string player come off the bench unexpectedly and give everything he has.

 

[TBpup]

I had no issue with booing Raymond Felton for multiple reasons. Here is guessing I wasn't the only one. Anyone can take any issue or agree with that....but had no qualms about it what so ever. @swish3 @Strenuus

 

[bobf]

I wanna know what ET's 3P% is from corner 3s.

Around 36% career last I checked.

 

[kjironman1]

I had no issue with booing Raymond Felton for multiple reasons. Here is guessing I wasn't the only one. Anyone can take any issue or agree with that....but had no qualms about it what so ever. @swish3 @Strenuus

But that was simply lack of effort and a general disdain for the entire Blazer family. So yeah. Boo on bro.

 

[Wizard Mentor]

I wonder if they give a fuck, and if they do, why?

Meyers played a good all around game tonight. He actually hasn't sucked this year. He's barely played, but when he has, he's been productive. When you get production out of your third string center, like he provided tonight, he can flex and make all the faces he wants.

It really just seems like some people will always find something negative to say about Meyers, even when he plays well.

BNM

Because "production" isn't the only thing I care about in a coworker, and if I may venture a guess, you feel the same.

He's immature and annoying. That being said, he's overpaid but that ship has sailed. I am happy with his play this
year, but I am even happier with his role this year.

 

[UKRAINEFAN]

About the bad bench play: First, we are a little thin without Ed and Harkless. As for that Napier, Baldwin, Leonard, Connaughton, Layman and Collins lineup, well, it seemed no one was sure how to integrate Leonard into the offense. Also it looks like Baldwin is one of those guys who is really only effective with the ball in his hands, and it was always in Napier's. Then, Connaughton has been kind of crap lately. Seemed as if Napier panicked a little, not sure how to run an effective offense with that particular group. Hopefully the coaches will work with this unit some.

 

[Strenuus]

I can always tell when a compliment has been granted by those who just want to hate the guy.
It's followed by However, But, But, But.......

There is no way they will ever simply say "He had a good game and he helped the Blazers win" then leave it at that.

I stand by my buts and howevers, because I gave qualifying answers... not "But he sucks" or "however, he sucks" ... I mean, not everything is black and white my friend. I can look at both sides, I'm not a national tv channel.

 

[Strenuus]

I had no issue with booing Raymond Felton for multiple reasons. Here is guessing I wasn't the only one. Anyone can take any issue or agree with that....but had no qualms about it what so ever. @swish3 @Strenuus

Damn, I guess you didn't want a championship.

 

[kjironman1]

I stand by my buts and howevers, because I gave qualifying answers... not "But he sucks" or "however, he sucks" ... I mean, not everything is black and white my friend. I can look at both sides, I'm not a national tv channel.

In my book calling you a "National TV Channel" would have been fighting words. Glad i didn't go there.
I will give you the credit you deserve. He sucks almost all the time!

 

[kjironman1]

 

[CupWizier]

I have nothing against Leonard, but I truly feel he would be best served on a new team and we should move on. Hopefully that can be accomplished in the off season.

 

[Scalma]

I have nothing against Leonard, but I truly feel he would be best served on a new team and we should move on. Hopefully that can be accomplished in the off season.

Just look for another shitty contract and make a swap.

 

[CupWizier]

Just look for another shitty contract and make a swap.

I think next year he could actually bring something back whether it be another player and or draft picks in a deal. A team would acquire his bird rights and only have 2 years left. No reason to take back an equally bad contract otherwise might as well just keep him.

 

[tester551]

I have nothing against Leonard, but I truly feel he would be best served on a new team and we should move on. Hopefully that can be accomplished in the off season.

Couldn't agree more.

I think Leonard can be a decent rotation player. I just think he needs to move on for a fresh start to get there.

 

[tester551]

Just look for another shitty contract and make a swap.

Dallas might be a good location.
If they're wanting to move on from Dirk, they can opt into his $5M team option (& give him a nice bonus). Then trade Dirk for Meyers with the promise that Portland cuts Dirk so he can retire.

 

[andalusian]

I was happy with how Meyers played last night, both for the team and for him - I am certain that his career did not go as he hoped so far - so to see him engaged and getting better (even if it is not as good as all of us wanted) - is great.

It was amazing to see him next Z-Co on the court - you realize how much bigger and stronger he appears compared to Z-Co - it actually makes me excited about seeing Zach in a year or two once he gets more NBA ready physically (because mentally he seems to already be there).

 

[Boob-No-More]

Just look for another shitty contract and make a swap.

Whats the point of doing that? If Meyers is a good teammate, stays engaged when not playing and is liked and appreciated by his coach, why trade his shitty contract for anther equally shitty contract? Meyers has proven he isn't going to cause problems and bitch about playing time. Would the player you'd get back in a trade do the same? Who knows? Meyers is a known quantity. He may be overpaid (so is everyone else on a "shitty" contract), he may not have become the player we wished, but at least he can be counted on to not cause problems and that's not a bad trait to have in a 12th man.

If there was a 12th Man of the Year Award, I'm pretty sure @swish3 would nominate Meyers, and for once, he may actually have a valid point.

BNM