Game Thread GAME# 9: LAKERS @ BLAZERS - NOVEMBER 3, 2018 - SATURDAY, 7:00 (PDT), NBCSNW

[tykendo]

I kind of thought that was a Scott Foster thing.

I can't blame this on the refs. I thought they did fine except that Nurk/Hart thing got botched. Thought Hart should be ejected. This is ALL on the bench tonight.

 

[PattyPatinson]

Well the three guards Lillard CJ and Curry pretty much brought them back in this game with the help of Aminu and Nurk. It was working so he stayed with it. I can't tell you why he tried Meyers and Biggie. But Biggie played a grand total of 5 mins and Leonard got 3:12. It's not like he didn't yank them quick.

Yea those 8 mins led to the 20 point lead. And seth was 0-5 and I think he played most of last quarter. There definitely should have been a change for Layman or Nic early in there

 

[kjironman1]

Stotts to me isn't a bad coach, he's not a great coach either. Tonight was a lot on the bench, and weird rotations, 3 point shooting, and the refs.
There is a lot you could nitpick at, especially when they lose like this.

I have been curious for almost two years now what this team would look like with a different coach (believe me it could get worse), and I thought after the Pelican series, was the perfect time to say goodbye. Didn't have to be disrespectful to him, but he tends to get out coached quite frequently when it matters.

Outside of rotations, the big thing that really irritates me about Stotts is how the team comes out of time outs, do they draw up what opposing player they want to pass the ball too? I don't get it...
Now Stotts is really well liked among his players and in the "new" NBA that's a big deal, the days of the coach who's a complete jerk is going away, even Pop is finding out that younger NBA players won't put up with his crap the Way Tim Duncan did.

I've said this a thousand times. Stotts can only draw the play up. He cannot make the team execute. He also cannot prevent defenses from reacting. He also cannot make the shots for the team. He has to stay on the sidelines and the team has to play.
The word around the league is that Stotts is one of the very best at drawing up a play or situation to give his team a chance to score. That is all i know. But it is a fact that players respect him and he is well liked.

 

[tykendo]

First Quarter the Blazers were up by one. the second quarter both teams scored 28 and the Blazers were still up by one. But The Blazers were not shooting well at all. I figured the Blazers would heat up from 3 eventually. They usually do. But it was not meant to be this game. happens. Forget about it and go on to the next one.

I agree. Take it out on the Wolves. But the bench needs to show up.

 

[kjironman1]

Yea those 8 mins led to the 20 point lead. And seth was 0-5 and I think he played most of last quarter. There definitely should have been a change for Layman or Nic early in there

It wasn't 8 mins. That was 5 mins for Biggie. Leonard played two of his minutes with Collins and one at the end of the game.

 

[tester551]

Hart's a little bitch.

Id LOVE to have him on our team

 

[kjironman1]

By the way i still dislike the Lakers about as much as any team in any sport around the globe!

 

[TorturedBlazerFan]

I've said this a thousand times. Stotts can only draw the play up. He cannot make the team execute. He also cannot prevent defenses from reacting. He also cannot make the shots for the team. He has to stay on the sidelines and the team has to play.
The word around the league is that Stotts is one of the very best at drawing up a play or situation to give his team a chance to score. That is all i know. But it is a fact that players respect him and he is well liked.

He used to draw up some nice plays coming out of time outs, but it seems like he shot his wad about 2 years ago and his Viagra hasn't kicked in or something... Sorry I know that's not funny. Anyways, it just seems like to me he is either not drawing up good plays, or he's drawing up plays his team can execute. Multiple times every game they come out of a time out with a bad shot, or a turnover, then bad defense.
I realize he can't go out on the court "do it" for them, but his job is to know his personal and draw up plays they can execute. I just think his in game coaching the last year or so has lacked a lot of creativity. If I as a dude just watching the games can you tell you what play they're running when they get to half court, the rest of the NBA knows whats coming too.

 

[kjironman1]

Id LOVE to have him on our team

The one i'd like to have is Ingram. He didn't have a great game tonight but that guy will be very good for a long time IMO.

 

[PattyPatinson]

It wasn't 8 mins. That was 5 mins for Biggie. Leonard played two of his minutes with Collins and one at the end of the game.

I thought Meyers was yanked for Biggie whatever the case those two caused the 3rd quarter meltdown. On the bright side we almost staged a comeback from one of our worst shooting nights of the season. We should be able to batter them in our normal groove.

 

[BonesJones]

I've said this a thousand times. Stotts can only draw the play up. He cannot make the team execute. He also cannot prevent defenses from reacting. He also cannot make the shots for the team. He has to stay on the sidelines and the team has to play.
The word around the league is that Stotts is one of the very best at drawing up a play or situation to give his team a chance to score. That is all i know. But it is a fact that players respect him and he is well liked.

Then why is he worse than all other coaches out of timeouts, and consistently so?

 

[kjironman1]

He used to draw up some nice plays coming out of time outs, but it seems like he shot his wad about 2 years ago and his Viagra hasn't kicked in or something... Sorry I know that's not funny. Anyways, it just seems like to me he is either not drawing up good plays, or he's drawing up plays his team can execute. Multiple times every game they come out of a time out with a bad shot, or a turnover, then bad defense.
I realize he can't go out on the court "do it" for them, but his job is to know his personal and draw up plays they can execute. I just think his in game coaching the last year or so has lacked a lot of creativity. If I as a dude just watching the games can you tell you what play they're running when they get to half court, the rest of the NBA knows whats coming too.

Can't argue with you there. But i would also like to add. You are not just a regular dude. You are an avid Blazer fan that watches pretty much every minute of every game. You probably know more about what the Blazers tendencies are than most coaches coming into a game against the Blazers. Honestly we on here are not typical fans. We know way way more about this team than most.

 

[kjironman1]

Then why is he worse than all other coaches out of timeouts, and consistently so?

That would be your opinion. I cannot argue against you there. I would say he is very very good out of timeouts from what i have seen of other coaches.

 

[BonesJones]

That would be your opinion. I cannot argue against you there. I would say he is very very good out of timeouts from what i have seen of other coaches.

This is something I pay a ton of attention to. He's very bad. Wish there was some statistic on it.

 

[kjironman1]

It's a game of "Buckets". If you want to win you gotta make more that the team you are playing. Tonight the Blazers finally had a bad shooting night against the Lakers. It was bound to happen. Not only that i have a feeling the Lakers were playing a bit for their coach who just got kicked in the nuts by Magic.

 

[kjironman1]

This is something I pay a ton of attention to. He's very bad. Wish there was some statistic on it.

I really don't think he is that bad. But i'm sure he has had situations not work. This team roster has changed little in the last three years. I do know Mason Plumlee was very good in those situations. We also had better players making the inbound pass. Aminu can't do it. Harkless has been hurt. Layman seems to be a little young. They used PatCon quite a bit last year.
When the Blazers had Nic Batum always inbounding they were better for sure.

 

[TorturedBlazerFan]

This is something I pay a ton of attention to. He's very bad. Wish there was some statistic on it.

Maybe KJ has a point about the microscope some of us have on the Blazers, I think that's fair.
I pay alot to when TO's get called and how they do when they come out of them. To me they struggle on both sides. They didn't call a TO to stop the bleeding in the third. Then with 9.8 second and one to left, they didn't even try to see if they had a quick in bound and get the ball up the court, they just took the TO which was pretty much ball game. Then on the flip side twice in this game they called a time out came out of it and had 2 bad offensive possessions and two bad defensive possessions back to back to back to back.

I know Stotts isn't the worst coach in the NBA, I'd peg him like in the middle somewhere. I just felt like after the Pelicans series last year, I had seen what the Stotts, CJ, Dame, etc had, and I wanted to see what the players as a group would look like under a different system.
I'll give Stotts some credit, the bench (outside of tonight), has looked really good, they've moved the ball, played good defense.

 

[Nhawz]

That wasn't the issue. Should've put Jake in over Caleb and Meyers.

That’s my argument. Ed Davis should be getting both of their minutes. We let him go for a pack of swisher sweets. We would be elite w/ Ed coming off the bench instead of Meyers and Caleb

 

[DUB]

That’s my argument. Ed Davis should be getting both of their minutes. We let him go for a pack of swisher sweets. We would be elite w/ Ed coming off the bench instead of Meyers and Caleb

I think if we still had Ed, he’d be the first big off the bench, and we wouldn’t have seen the emergence of Collins.

 

[DUB]

I’m watching the Adelaide v Brisbane NBL game, and as part of the broadcast deal we get to listen in to the timeouts (except for the last two minutes of each quarter). At various stages both coaches have been swearing their heads off at their players, even the coach that is well know as a “players coach”. Somehow I can’t imagine Stotts ever getting that fired up.

 

[kjironman1]

This is something I pay a ton of attention to. He's very bad. Wish there was some statistic on it.

Maybe this?


I know it's two years ago.

 

[BonesJones]

Maybe this?

Need one for turnovers.

 

[kjironman1]

Need one for turnovers.

It's tough to even find this kind of thing.
But then Turnovers would not be the coach. That would be the inbound pass or the way the player handles the pass or even the way a player executes. You really can't blame a coach for that IMO.

 

[TorturedBlazerFan]

Maybe this?


I know it's two years ago.

Stotts was right in the middle.

 

[hoopsjock]

It had been so long I forgot how fucking bad it sucks to lose to the Lakers. DAMN IT.

 

[kjironman1]

@BonesJones
Here is something that i happen to agree with. There are those that feel taking a timeout is worse than not taking the timeout. Right now Portland averages 1.123 points per possession. On the looks i am getting for after a timeout no team does better than less than 1 at .97 or so. If there is a way to not take a timeout eventually that average will win you more games.

 

[kjironman1]

Stotts was right in the middle.

Yeah a couple years ago though. It's been tough last year and so far this year. They need a solid guy to inbound that can be trusted to make a shot. It's very important that the defense has to guard the inbound player. If they don't then they have a 5 on 4. That is why Aminu can't inbound and at least last year those situations sucked. This year they have tried Staukas and Curry. They have gone with Harkless and CJ also. But CJ and Curry are a bit short and can be trouble. Also you have to have a player that has the ability to read like Batum did in .09 against Houston. That inbound play was not supposed to go to Lillard. It just happened that way. They also have to be sharp enough to know when to call timeout. Leonard got smacked with that a couple times. Calling Time too late.

 

[blazerkor]

Horrible game shooting the three. Luckily we won't see many like it. We get a chance to beat them in front of their crowd on the 14th and I bet we do it.

 

[TorturedBlazerFan]

Its 1:11 for the 2nd time tonight, Im still irritated at how this game went down. Id make a terrible coach, losing would just drive me crazy...

 

[Mediocre Man]

Considering how bad the officiating was and how awful the bench was it was crazy they even got back in the game.

I picked a random page for fun to see it there was a whine about the officiating. Thank you for not letting me down