GAME THREAD: BLAZERS @ WOLVES - 12/18/13, WED, 5 PM (PST), CSNNW

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Hey guys, don't try stats on him. He thinks that because Love has better stats that he's the better PF. He thinks it's mutually exclusive. 12-13, 22-4. How can the best PF be on a losing team just because of stats? They go hand in hand, Love is ONE OF THE best, but not the best because he doesn't make his teammates better... or win games.

He's fantastic for my fantasy team, though. That's gotta be worth something, I guess.
 
I just really, really want LaMarcus to destroy Love tonight, beating the Wolves is always a good feeling. Never liked Kevin Love...seems like a guy who'd have a hard time remembering the names of his teammates. LaMarcus needs to take him down a few pegs tonight.
 
Wolvesguy14 said:
But that's the thing, LMA is not doing just as well.
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Yeah he is. Love isn't in the MVP conversation BECAUSE of LMA, and because his team is crummy around him. So... I don't know what to tell you. :)
 
Strenuus said:
Hey guys, don't try stats on him. He thinks that because Love has better stats that he's the better PF. He thinks it's mutually exclusive. 12-13, 22-4. How can the best PF be on a losing team just because of stats? They go hand in hand, Love is ONE OF THE best, but not the best because he doesn't make his teammates better... or win games.

He's fantastic for my fantasy team, though. That's gotta be worth something, I guess.
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Completely agree. That is why David West, David Lee, Serge Ibaka, and Kenneth Faried are all better than Love.... oh wait...
 
I'm trying not to hate Kevin Love just cause of his dumbo fans, but it's becoming increasingly difficult.
 
Wolvesguy14 said:
But that's the thing, LMA is not doing just as well.
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No, Aldridge is doing better. He outscores his counterpart by 13.3 PTS/48 compared to Love outscoring his counterpart by 9.1 PTS/48. Oh, and Aldridge is doing it on a winning team.

Putting up big individual numbers on a crap team is meaningless. How long have you been a Wolves fan? Remember a guy named Tony Campbell? He was a 7th man on the Lakers, went to the Timberwolves in the expansion draft and averaged 23 ppg. He was later traded to the Knicks (who were good at the time) and went back to averaging 7 ppg coming off the bench.

Of course, Love is better than Tony Campbell, but his individual stats are inflated because he's "The Man" on a losing team.

BNM
 
riverman said:
I just really, really want LaMarcus to destroy Love tonight, beating the Wolves is always a good feeling. Never liked Kevin Love...seems like a guy who'd have a hard time remembering the names of his teammates. LaMarcus needs to take him down a few pegs tonight.
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I just have to rep this!
 
Boob-No-More said:
No, Aldridge is doing better. He outscores his counterpart by 13.3 PTS/48 compared to Love outscoring his counterpart by 9.1 PTS/48. Oh, and Aldridge is doing it on a winning team.

Putty up big individual numbers on a crap team is meaningless. How long have you been a Wolves fan? Remember a guy named Tony Campbell? He was a 7th man on the Lakers, went to the Timberwolves in the expansion draft and averaged 23 ppg. He was later trded to the Knicks (who were good at the time) and went back to averaging 7 ppg coming off the bench.

Of course, Love is better than Tony Campbell, but his individual stats are inflated because he's "The Man" on a losing team.

BNM
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Worst. Example. Ever.
 
VanillaGorilla said:
I'm trying not to hate Kevin Love just cause of his dumbo fans, but it's becoming increasingly difficult.
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Don't worry, it will be so much fun to watch them turn on him when he leaves to sign with the Lakers after next season.
 
Boob-No-More said:
No, Aldridge is doing better. He outscores his counterpart by 13.3 PTS/48 compared to Love outscoring his counterpart by 9.1 PTS/48. Oh, and Aldridge is doing it on a winning team.

Putting up big individual numbers on a crap team is meaningless. How long have you been a Wolves fan? Remember a guy named Tony Campbell? He was a 7th man on the Lakers, went to the Timberwolves in the expansion draft and averaged 23 ppg. He was later traded to the Knicks (who were good at the time) and went back to averaging 7 ppg coming off the bench.

Of course, Love is better than Tony Campbell, but his individual stats are inflated because he's "The Man" on a losing team.

BNM
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great example, how about Damon S lighting up the league in Toronto, he joins the Blazers and shooting comes down to earth..same same
 
Wolvesguy14 said:
Worst. Example. Ever.
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Nope, it's THE best example of how individual stats are inflated when you play on a crappy team. How can the best power forward in the game possibly be leading his team to a losing record. You don't get to be called the best anything unless you're winning.

BNM
 
Wolvesguy14 said:
The point is you can't point at the record for the determining factor in player to player comparison.
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Which is why the individual +/- is the ultimate scoreboard. As BNM pointed out, Aldridge has a better stat outperforming the players they face
 
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