Game Thread: The ATL @ the PDX

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Tince said:
Greg inability to stay out of foul trouble is more than half the reason our centers only played 10 minutes in the 2nd half. It's time for him to learn how to play smart on defense. You can blame Nate, Mo Lucus, Bayno, and any other coach, but Greg needs to figure it out himself. Staying out of foul trouble is not rocket science.
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Sure, I'm okay with that, but we had another rebounding shot blocker with two fouls just sitting on the bench.
 
RoyToy said:
Blake can't guard his man.
Roy hardly ever does.
Martell is so so.
Aldridge is alright.
Oden...
Przy is usually good
Outlaw sucks.
Rudy tries but...
Miller really can't.

This is just not a good defending team, and I don't think the defense is all Nate's fault. None of his players can stop penetration other than Batum.
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Good points. It's one thing actually that has been all but ignored by fans. Roy's defense this year has gotten worse. He's not the main problem (or, imho, a problem), but for someone who has claimed he wanted to be better at both ends, he surely hasn't done defensive justice yet.

Our worst defensive players just happen to play at our weakest positions. SF and PG. And I don't care that the team calls travis the backup PF, he's a SF.

They really really need to make a trade to upgrade the SF, and/or can Nate.
 
B-Roy said:
I don't know how they could abuse Oden when he only played 15 minutes. (You're making this too easy) More like they abused Portland's stupid small lineup.
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He only played 15 minutes because (you're making this too easy) all they had to do was drive to the hole, Oden would foul them and he'd have to sit down.
 
rocketeer said:
which is better, 9 rebounds in 16 minutes or 14 rebounds in 40 minutes?
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14 rebounds in 40 minutes. Hands down. Saying that Oden would've gotten 18 rebounds in 32 minutes is like saying Outlaw would've scored 45 if he had played the whole game. It doesn't work like that.
 
KingSpeed said:
He only played 15 minutes because (you're making this too easy) all they had to do was drive to the hole, Oden would foul them and he'd have to sit down.
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So why couldn't they play Joel? Huh? No answer? Anyways, 2 of Oden's fouls were in the 1st quarter, and weren't the results of penetration. Another one was him fouling Josh Smith on an offensive rebound. So that leaves only 2 fouls that actually resulted in free throws.

Checkmate.
 
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KingSpeed said:
14 rebounds in 40 minutes. Hands down. Saying that Oden would've gotten 18 rebounds in 32 minutes is like saying Outlaw would've scored 45 if he had played the whole game. It doesn't work like that.
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did i ever say that it worked like that? oden rebounded better than aldridge tonight. oden is a better rebounder than aldridge overall. both of those things are facts. 9 in 16 is better rebounding than 14 in 40.

i'm not saying anything about projecting oden's numbers over more minutes. he was a more productive rebounder than aldridge tonight and it's indisputable.

and really, i'm not sure why you're trying to compare aldridge to oden in that regard. aldridge wouldn't have been the guy to come off the floor for oden or joel.
 
Oden had 5 fouls and 3 turnovers in 15 minutes. Per 48, that's 16 fouls and 9.6 turnovers per game!

Checkmate.
 
rocketeer said:
did i ever say that it worked like that? oden rebounded better than aldridge tonight. oden is a better rebounder than aldridge overall. both of those things are facts. 9 in 16 is better rebounding than 14 in 40.

i'm not saying anything about projecting oden's numbers over more minutes. he was a more productive rebounder than aldridge tonight and it's indisputable.

and really, i'm not sure why you're trying to compare aldridge to oden in that regard. aldridge wouldn't have been the guy to come off the floor for oden or joel.
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You need to be on the court to produce. LMA produced more rebounds tonight. Don't tell LMA, who worked his ass off grabbing those 14 rebounds that Oden was a more productive rebounder tonight.
 
KingSpeed said:
You need to be on the court to produce. LMA produced more rebounds tonight. Don't tell LMA, who worked his ass off grabbing those 14 rebounds that Oden was a more productive rebounder tonight.
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go ahead and tell aldridge. it's the truth. oden was a more productive rebounder.
 
KingSpeed said:
You need to be on the court to produce. LMA produced more rebounds tonight. Don't tell LMA, who worked his ass off grabbing those 14 rebounds that Oden was a more productive rebounder tonight.
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Are you saying Oden should have grabbed 14 rebounds in his 15 minutes?
 
Steve Blake 2009-2010

11-32
32pts
17 assists

In 5 games. Now think about his defense.

Really? REALLY?

FUCK this is annoying
 
Andre Miller isn't playing much better, especially on defense.
 
Time to see some Jerryd Bayless a little bit, maybe in a second-quarter stint just to see what he can do.
 
You can thank Nate McMillan for that. He's wasting his talent here.

Miller avg 16/6 last year on 47% shooting. Now he's just fallen off the cliff?

Sorry. Don't buy it.
 
Bottom line: this "team" is just a bunch of guys going through the motions. Blame Nate, blame the players, blame KP.....it doesn't matter. This entire organization should be hanging their heads in shame right now. I really feel sorry for Paul Allen. I believe he wants to win, but he is surrounded by people who cash his paychecks and just don't care about their jobs.

Fuck this team. I'm done.
 
oldmangrouch said:
Bottom line: this "team" is just a bunch of guys going through the motions. Blame Nate, blame the players, blame KP.....it doesn't matter. This entire organization should be hanging their heads in shame right now. I really feel sorry for Paul Allen. I believe he wants to win, but he is surrounded by people who cash his paychecks and just don't care about their jobs.

Fuck this team. I'm done.
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Woah, man...isn't it a little early to be writing them off as worthless bums who don't care? They've struggled to start the season, but plenty of teams have in the past. I don't think these games have been greater windows into their souls than last season's games. Or any other games in their careers.
 
Been home from the game for a little bit, but haven't read through the game thread. Very disappointing game. The team just lacked intensity. Atlanta wanted it more and played better. Pretty sad performance by the Blazers.

On a side note it is my wife's bday today. Originally she wanted to just stay home, but since I couldn't sell the tickets we went. Went we went in I stop and ask if we could buy the buffet for Karla for her bday, but the gal said no. She surprised us by giving Karla a wrist band anyway since it was her bday.
 
mgb said:
On a side note it is my wife's bday today. Originally she wanted to just stay home, but since I couldn't sell the tickets we went. Went we went in I stop and ask if we could buy the buffet for Karla for her bday, but the gal said no. She surprised us by giving Karla a wrist band anyway since it was her bday.
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That's cool. But seeing your post, the bean counters will probably track her down and fire her.

barfo
 
Minstrel said:
Woah, man...isn't it a little early to be writing them off as worthless bums who don't care?
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You've never been a bum, have you. Freaks don't call themselves hippies, hobos don't call themselves bums, and Trail Blazers don't call their team Jail Blazers. Have some respect.
 
jlprk said:
You've never been a bum, have you. Freaks don't call themselves hippies, hobos don't call themselves bums, and Trail Blazers don't call their team Jail Blazers. Have some respect.
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So, are you saying Minstrel is a hobo?

This is important because I have a blunderbuss duel with him and I need to know if I have to go down to the train yards.

barfo
 
AmirIcon said:
How is that exactly relevant? Let's play to the strengths of the opposition or us?
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Greg had 5 fouls so he was a poor option last night, which leaves Joel... he's "the strength" of the team? Ooookay :rolleyes2:

I happen to think LA is one of the best players in PDX and have no problem with him matching up on Horford. Nate decided to go with that so as to play more of an offensive lineup like he's done 10,000 times before to spread the court. Travis was going pretty well and is the same size as Josh Smith (their PF). So Nate's a "fucking idiot" when it doesn't work out because a 6'5 guard eats the club up on off the dribble jumpers? I saw Crawford crushing Martell for a while, then Roy, then Travis... how would Joel or Greg have slowed JC down?

STOMP
 
STOMP said:
Greg had 5 fouls so he was a poor option last night, which leaves Joel... he's "the strength" of the team? Ooookay :rolleyes2:

I happen to think LA is one of the best players in PDX and have no problem with him matching up on Horford. Nate decided to go with that so as to play more of an offensive lineup like he's done 10,000 times before to spread the court. Travis was going pretty well and is the same size as Josh Smith (their PF). So Nate's a "fucking idiot" when it doesn't work out because a 6'5 guard eats the club up on off the dribble jumpers? I saw Crawford crushing Martell for a while, then Roy, then Travis... how would Joel or Greg have slowed JC down?

STOMP
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Because we missed a ton of fucking rebounds in the fourth dude. That's the problem; that and they got really good position because our Center (lma) and PF (Trav) were playing terrible defense, well along with the guards too.
 
How can you guys stop supporting a team after a run of bad results?

Do you even call yourselves true fans?
 
Ronan said:
How can you guys stop supporting a team after a run of bad results?

Do you even call yourselves true fans?
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I don't know if you were referring to me, but I still <3 the Blazers. But, I've said since last year that I do not like the coach. I think his rotations suck, and I think his use of our players suck.

In this thread, I am just saying that his fourth-quarter rotation got us killed. I put that to blame, for the 4th quarter melt-down. What was it, 6 substitutions in 6 minutes?
 
barfo said:
So, are you saying Minstrel is a hobo?

This is important because I have a blunderbuss duel with him and I need to know if I have to go down to the train yards.
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I don't know him well enough to know whether he's a hillbilly, redneck, or bum, but I suspect he's secretly a wandering cantor of the lowest variety.
 
blue32 said:
Because we missed a ton of fucking rebounds in the fourth dude. That's the problem; that and they got really good position because our Center (lma) and PF (Trav) were playing terrible defense, well along with the guards too.
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again, the damage was mostly done by Jamal taking his man off the dribble... Joel is not the answer to cooling off a hot wing player filling it from the outside and breaking down the D on drives.

They did out-rebound Portland by 10 for the game. Joe Johnson out-rebounded Roy 8-2, Marvin Williams out-rebounded Martell 7-1... thats +12 boards for them. For the most part it wasn't their Bigs who did the damage.

STOMP
 
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