Games 5 Canes vs. Rangers
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Yup, and you were right regarding how similar this looked to the games against NJ last year and Tampa the year before.
And BTW, we didn't play well in game 4, but after the 1st period we played 500 times better than we played in this game tonight, we just didn't show tonight. This was NJ, and TB, and others all over again, and it happens often at home as mentioned.
I think there is a much better chance they win game 6 than game 7, especially with an extra day in between. I also hope/expect Wheeler and/or Chytil will be back. I'll say right now, the winner of game 6 wins the series.
For anyone to be all fired up right now is a waste in the sense that by being that way we would show more effort, energy, and passion than the Rangers did tonight, and I refuse to do that.
To me it is simple, is this going to be another soft, quiet, lack of energy and passion and pushback, collapse and weak exit, or will they man up and show up with passion on Thursday night. Will they one up their pathetic exits the past 2 years blowing 2-0 series leads, which is 80% + odds to win the series historically and blow a 3-0 series lead, which is 98% odds to win the series historically. Boy would it be epic if they blow it. Rangerland would see a lot of changes one would think. We shall see.
21 shots at home in a potential clinching game...enough said.
To me it is simple, is this going to be another soft, quiet, lack of energy and passion and pushback, collapse and weak exit, or will they man up and show up with passion on Thursday night. Will they one up their pathetic exits the past 2 years blowing 2-0 series leads, which is 80% + odds to win the series historically and blow a 3-0 series lead, which is 98% odds to win the series historically. Boy would it be epic if they blow it. Rangerland would see a lot of changes one would think. We shall see.
21 shots at home in a potential clinching game...enough said.
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Vally looks pretty disturbed on the post game. Obviously can’t believe what he saw tonight.
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The Rangers just wanted to stay to the outside and throw the puck back and forth.
Said before the series, the way you beat the Canes is quick decisions and quick puck movement, that has been very lacking the past two games. On the PP, they are just not shooting anymore, caught up in looking for that pretty pass again, and making low % cross ice passes that will not work against this team. Canes have tightened on the PK, but the Rangers are helping them with over passing, trying to be fancy, and lack of conviction.
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Im not going to lie...the thought occurred to me too. haaha
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Let's face it. They let the Canes do long stretch passes all night. Never adjusted. Get through the neutral zone with ease. Their skating sucked. Their passing sucked. Their effort sucked as the game went on. They played east-west again. They were falling down on the ice all night. It almost looked like they were playing hung over. They could use the extra day of rest.
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Hopefully everyone calms down with the Rempe stuff. He was absolutely useless last night. Ok, you don’t want penalties but what’s the point if he’s not hitting anyone? If he’s not in front of the net using his size?
To be fair, he should’ve drawn 2 penalties but it is painfully obvious that the NHL has told the refs to officiate him differently. With that being the case, I do agree he is useless with the officiating being how it is on him. But Brodzinski also brings zero to the game. If Chytil can’t go game 6 then what do we do?
I agree on the Rempe thing in that their record with him is/was a bit coincidental. Overall, I think the 12th forward isn't going to be a major difference, especially when it is a choice between Brod and Rempe, neither player is making a big impact or adding real value throughout the game, and as a 12th forward that is not a big or surprising statement.
With that said, if they can get Wheeler and/or Chytil back for game 6 that is a big boost I believe. Either one of those guys is a step up from Brod or Rempe and allows them to move Cuylle to the 4th line, or have Wheeler on the 4th line, and that is an advantage. I really think it is something to watch the next couple of days into game 6, will Chytil and/or Wheeler practice and play.
I wrote last night, it is absolutely not why they lost, but the way the Chytil thing went down didn't help them. If he had not come back at all it would have been way better than the yo-yo of back, team is excited we get a good player back, only to have him go out again day of game 4, after a very good day between games 3 & 4 from what we have read. That is not a good situation for the team and can be a little deflating for Chytil and the team, it was for all of us, and it wouldn't have been if Chytil never came back in game 3.
I believe the winner of game 6 wins this series, we'll see if the Rangers are ready to play a game this time.
With that said, if they can get Wheeler and/or Chytil back for game 6 that is a big boost I believe. Either one of those guys is a step up from Brod or Rempe and allows them to move Cuylle to the 4th line, or have Wheeler on the 4th line, and that is an advantage. I really think it is something to watch the next couple of days into game 6, will Chytil and/or Wheeler practice and play.
I wrote last night, it is absolutely not why they lost, but the way the Chytil thing went down didn't help them. If he had not come back at all it would have been way better than the yo-yo of back, team is excited we get a good player back, only to have him go out again day of game 4, after a very good day between games 3 & 4 from what we have read. That is not a good situation for the team and can be a little deflating for Chytil and the team, it was for all of us, and it wouldn't have been if Chytil never came back in game 3.
I believe the winner of game 6 wins this series, we'll see if the Rangers are ready to play a game this time.
Good article by Brooks, which I think is spot on. Comparisons to 2015 ECF, the Devs series, and more.
Rangers hardly resembled themselves in listless Game 5 letdown (nypost.com)
Rangers hardly resembled themselves in listless Game 5 letdown (nypost.com)
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What it boils down to is that last night was inexcusable. This was a game to go to the ECF and they looked like a team taking the night off in November. Now you let a very good team back into the series with a legit shot to send it to a game seven. Wins are wins but something else to consider. This is now four straight games where they haven’t beaten Carolina in regulation.
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I know they won seven straight games but did they have a dominant performance in any of them? Even against craps they didn’t have one dominant performance. Maybe they’re due for one.
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That was a stinker to be flushed away. Ironically enough Wheeler came to the Rangers at a discount for a shot at the Cup, maybe he gets into the lineup to help out. This is where Lav's experience comes into play and he makes the necessary adjustments to create more offense.
This is good news, and would be a huge lift if true:
Chytil (illness) is slated to be an option for Thursday's Game 6 against Carolina, per Vince Z. Mercogliano of USA Today on Wednesday.
Chytil returned from a head injury last Thursday, but after recording a shot in 12:02 of ice time in that contest, the 24-year-old missed the past two outings due to the illness. He's also been dealing with some soreness unrelated to his previous head injury. Chytil might serve in a bottom-six role versus the Hurricanes, but it's also possible he'll be a healthy scratch.
Chytil (illness) is slated to be an option for Thursday's Game 6 against Carolina, per Vince Z. Mercogliano of USA Today on Wednesday.
Chytil returned from a head injury last Thursday, but after recording a shot in 12:02 of ice time in that contest, the 24-year-old missed the past two outings due to the illness. He's also been dealing with some soreness unrelated to his previous head injury. Chytil might serve in a bottom-six role versus the Hurricanes, but it's also possible he'll be a healthy scratch.
Whether they’ll have Kreider on Thursday is at least partially in doubt. The 33-year-old skipped practice, coming off a miserable minus-3 performance in Game 5 on Monday.
“I’m hoping that today was just a normal playoff maintenance,” Laviolette said.
Blake Wheeler skated in Kreider’s place on a line with Mika Zibanejad and Jack Roslovic at practice. Wheeler has made great strides physically after being sidelined three months with a lower-body injury. However, just Tuesday, Laviolette said that Wheeler won’t be rushed back into game action.
Filip Chytil skated as an extra forward, as did Matt Rempe. Chytil returned to play Game 3 in this series after being sidelined six months with an upper-body injury believed to be a concussion. But Chytil missed the past two games, the first because of an illness, the second believed to be a healthy scratch.
Jonny Brodzinski, scratched in Game 5 after playing in the previous game, practiced on the fourth line with Barclay Goodrow and Jimmy Vesey.
“Everybody that was out on the ice was cleared (to play) today and then we make (lineup) decisions based on where players are at,” Laviolette explained. “Based on where players are at physically, we make decisions.”
Though there were no personnel changes on defense at practice Wednesday, Laviolette did shuffle some defensemen around. Jacob Trouba was reunited with K’Andre Miller, and Braden Schneider paired with Erik Gustafsson.
These were the defense pairings for most of the regular season. However, down the stretch and through the first nine games in the postseason, Trouba skated with Gustafsson, and Miller paired with Schneider.
“It may or may not be exactly how it was out there today (in Game 6),” Laviolette stated.
Trouba and Gustafsson were on for 11 more scoring chances against than for (41-30) 5v5 in the first five games of this series, including nine high-danger chances against (eight for).
Miller and Schneider were minus-7 (43 chances against, 36 for) and nine nine high-dangers chances against (seven for).
The pair that has struggled the most is the Adam Fox-Ryan Lindgren tandem, who allowed 11 high-danger chances against and only three for. Fox has not seemed himself in the series and could be playing hurt since he didn’t practice for nearly a week between the first and second rounds.
“Speaking of Miller and Trouba, there’s a lot of experience there. They’ve played a long time together, a lot of minutes together,” Laviolette said. “Again, no matter how we go back there, I still feel we have a really good balance of defensemen.”
And they’ll need a big night from their six defensemen, who will face another relentless barrage from the rejuvenated Hurricanes in Game 6.
“I’m hoping that today was just a normal playoff maintenance,” Laviolette said.
Blake Wheeler skated in Kreider’s place on a line with Mika Zibanejad and Jack Roslovic at practice. Wheeler has made great strides physically after being sidelined three months with a lower-body injury. However, just Tuesday, Laviolette said that Wheeler won’t be rushed back into game action.
Filip Chytil skated as an extra forward, as did Matt Rempe. Chytil returned to play Game 3 in this series after being sidelined six months with an upper-body injury believed to be a concussion. But Chytil missed the past two games, the first because of an illness, the second believed to be a healthy scratch.
Jonny Brodzinski, scratched in Game 5 after playing in the previous game, practiced on the fourth line with Barclay Goodrow and Jimmy Vesey.
“Everybody that was out on the ice was cleared (to play) today and then we make (lineup) decisions based on where players are at,” Laviolette explained. “Based on where players are at physically, we make decisions.”
Though there were no personnel changes on defense at practice Wednesday, Laviolette did shuffle some defensemen around. Jacob Trouba was reunited with K’Andre Miller, and Braden Schneider paired with Erik Gustafsson.
These were the defense pairings for most of the regular season. However, down the stretch and through the first nine games in the postseason, Trouba skated with Gustafsson, and Miller paired with Schneider.
“It may or may not be exactly how it was out there today (in Game 6),” Laviolette stated.
Trouba and Gustafsson were on for 11 more scoring chances against than for (41-30) 5v5 in the first five games of this series, including nine high-danger chances against (eight for).
Miller and Schneider were minus-7 (43 chances against, 36 for) and nine nine high-dangers chances against (seven for).
The pair that has struggled the most is the Adam Fox-Ryan Lindgren tandem, who allowed 11 high-danger chances against and only three for. Fox has not seemed himself in the series and could be playing hurt since he didn’t practice for nearly a week between the first and second rounds.
“Speaking of Miller and Trouba, there’s a lot of experience there. They’ve played a long time together, a lot of minutes together,” Laviolette said. “Again, no matter how we go back there, I still feel we have a really good balance of defensemen.”
And they’ll need a big night from their six defensemen, who will face another relentless barrage from the rejuvenated Hurricanes in Game 6.
If Chytil doesn't play tomorrow night something doesn't add up. If it was concussion related no way he practices, and he has the past few days. But if he is good and cleared, how do you sit him for Brod. The whole thing seems a little puzzling to me if he doesn't play in game 6.
If Chytil is out tomorrow night then it’s time we move on from him as it likely would be head related. If he’s cleared to play, he’s in. If we play Brod over him then I can’t see a way for Chytil back into this lineup as a permanent fixture, even next season.
I agree, and that is why I think this is puzzling. The obvious thing to say is yeah it is concussion related, that is why Chytil would sit, and I agree that logically makes sense on the surface. But what doesn't make sense is he's practicing, would he be if it were concussion related, and he is cleared to play per the fact that he's fully practicing, and Lav's comments. It is very strange. Good enough concussion wise to practice fully and be cleared to play, but not good enough to play in the game over a guy like Brod? Maybe it is possible that while technically good and cleared to play, Chytil (or the coaches) just don't feel strongly enough that Chytil is ready for the physical high-speed battle of round two game 6 of the playoffs. It all seems strange to me.
Lav's comments:
“Everybody that was out on the ice was cleared (to play) today and then we make (lineup) decisions based on where players are at,” Laviolette explained. “Based on where players are at physically, we make decisions.”
Filip Chytil was a full participant in practice and is considered available for Game 6, but Laviolette said where a player is at and how they’re feeling is also being taken into consideration.
Laviolette said “Everyone who practiced today is a full go and in consideration,” according to USA Today’s Vince Mercogliano. “How they’re feeling physically is a factor, but it’s a coach’s decision,” Mercogliano reported on Wednesday, May 15, after the Rangers practice ahead of Game 6.
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