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I wasn't able to watch the game last night, but I'm more than a little surprised to see that after Gee's solid performance against GSW - and his first extended minutes as a Blazer - he gets rewarded with a DNP. Can I add this to a list of reasons why I think Stotts is mediocre, or was there a good reason for him not playing?

I'm all for getting Crabbe some PT, but in the limited minutes that Gee has played he's proven to be better than his competition (Crabbe & Wright) for back-up SF minutes.
 
You're right. You didn't watch the game.

If you would have, you would have known that Crabbe and Wright both played well and contributed to the win. I suspect with Gobert playing goalie at the rim, Stotts wanted some 3-point threats to spread the floor more than a slasher type like Gee. That's exactly what Crabbe (2-4 on 3-pointers) and Wright (3-7 from deep) provided. Between them, they had 23 points and 10 rebounds. Maybe that Stotts fellow actually knows what he's doing. He figured out a way to beat the second best team in the league since the all star break, on their floor on the 2nd night of a home-away back-to-back while missing multiple key players due to injury.

BNM
 
I would add the fact that Gee played a LOT against Golden State, and after not playing very much for so long, I'm thinking his legs were a little more rubbery than usual yesterday...
 
Boob-No-More said:
You're right. You didn't watch the game.

If you would have, you would have known that Crabbe and Wright both played well and contributed to the win. I suspect with Gobert playing goalie at the rim, Stotts wanted some 3-point threats to spread the floor more than a slasher type like Gee. That's exactly what Crabbe (2-4 on 3-pointers) and Wright (3-7 from deep) provided. Between them, they had 23 points and 10 rebounds. Maybe that Stotts fellow actually knows what he's doing. He figured out a way to beat the second best team in the league since the all star break, on their floor on the 2nd night of a home-away back-to-back while missing multiple key players due to injury.

BNM
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Let's not forget them missing their best player as well.
 
BlazerWookee said:
I would add the fact that Gee played a LOT against Golden State, and after not playing very much for so long, I'm thinking his legs were a little more rubbery than usual yesterday...
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Now that could be a decent reason. Thanks for that!
 
Not to mention. While Gee played hard overall against the Warriors, he did provide some head scratching moments on offense.
 
HailBlazers said:
Not to mention. While Gee played hard overall against the Warriors, he did provide some head scratching moments on offense.
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No more head-scratching than our general offensive philosophy.
 
If you get a chance to see it, go back and watch the 4th quarter of last night's game. Wright (especially) and Crabbe's play in the 4th was the key to the win. Wright hit two big momentum changing 3s early in the 4th. Utah started the 4th with a double digit lead and was packing the paint to prevent "easy" baskets and offensive rebounds. When Wright made those 3-pointers, Utah was forced to defend out to the 3-point line. That opened things up for Aldridge to go to work down low and Lillard to drive and finish/get to the line.

Our offense relies on multiple 3-point threats to spread the floor. With Wes out for the season and Batum out last night, we needed Wright and Crabbe knocking down 3s to spread the floor That's exactly what they did, and it worked like a charm in the 4th. Gee has only made one 3-pointer in his 9 games as a Blazer (Wright and Crabbe combined for 3 made 3s in the 4th quarter alone last night). Gee simply does not space the floor the way Crabbe and Wright do. With Hayward out last night, it's not like we needed Gee's defense. Crabbe and Wright played acceptable defense and gave us the floor spacing we needed. And, once the floor was spread Dame and Aldridge took over and carried us to the win.

BNM
 
blue9 said:
Except that those stats aren't a reason for Gee's DNP - they came after the fact.
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They came as a direct result of Stotts deciding to play Crabbe and Wright over Gee. Given how well it worked, it seems like it was a pretty damn good decision, don't you think?

Stotts had his reasons to play Crabbe and Wright over Gee. Those reasons were proven valid by the results.

That begs the question: Why did you start a thread bashing Stotts for a decision that led directly to a much needed win? Would you rather he "reward" Gee and we lose the game?

BNM
 
Boob-No-More said:
If you get a chance to see it, go back and watch the 4th quarter of last night's game. Wright (especially) and Crabbe's play in the 4th was the key to the win. Wright hit two big momentum changing 3s early in the 4th. Utah started the 4th with a double digit lead and was packing the paint to prevent "easy" baskets and offensive rebounds. When Wright made those 3-pointers, Utah was forced to defend out to the 3-point line. That opened things up for Aldridge to go to work down low and Lillard to drive and finish/get to the line.

Our offense relies on multiple 3-point threats to spread the floor. With Wes out for the season and Batum out last night, we needed Wright and Crabbe knocking down 3s to spread the floor That's exactly what they did, and it worked like a charm in the 4th. Gee has only made one 3-pointer in his 9 games as a Blazer (Wright and Crabbe combined for 3 made 3s in the 4th quarter alone last night). Gee simply does not space the floor the way Crabbe and Wright do. With Hayward out last night, it's not like we needed Gee's defense. Crabbe and Wright played acceptable defense and gave us the floor spacing we needed. And, once the floor was spread Dame and Aldridge took over and carried us to the win.

BNM
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Thanks for a response without the snark of the original.
I understand the need for spacing, but given the injuries and Gee's solid performance the night before it's a little off-putting to see that he got a DNP-CD. Now, if he lost his legs due to the previous night's game that's a decent reason for holding him out (though I'm skeptical that a professional athlete would be so out of shape). But I'm so sick and tired of Stotts' philosophy of "spacing" and winning games with jump shots. We need to diversify our portfolio, and that's exactly what Gee does - he brings things to the table that no other player does. He creates easy scoring opportunities through his hustle. If we're going to win a Playoff series Gee will be more instrumental to that happening than Crabbe. But without getting consistent minutes he'll continue to free-lance...which might actually be better than a Stotts set play.
 
blue9 said:
No more head-scratching than our general offensive philosophy.
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I swear... you're one of the only posters who come in after a win and find some bullshit to nit pick about. We win the game and you complain about Gee not getting any time when Wright and Crabbe (WAY better shooters) are having great games? Give that shit a rest bro....
 
Boob-No-More said:
That head-scratching offensive philosophy worked like a charm in the 4th quarter last night - spread the floor with multiple 3-point threats and then attack the paint.
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Sure - sometimes it works. Last night we eked out a 3-point win. Yay us!
But our offense is FAR from being championship-level.
 
dviss1 said:
I swear... you're one of the only posters who come in after a win and find some bullshit to nit pick about. We win the game and you complain about Gee not getting any time when Wright and Crabbe (WAY better shooters) are having great games? Give that shit a rest bro....
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So, because we beat UTH things are hunky-dory now? No room for complaints or improvement? Mkay.
 
blue9- winning the game is more important than any individual's minutes. Also, we have one of the best offenses in the league. STFU.
 
Boob-No-More said:
If you get a chance to see it, go back and watch the 4th quarter of last night's game. Wright (especially) and Crabbe's play in the 4th was the key to the win. Wright hit two big momentum changing 3s early in the 4th. Utah started the 4th with a double digit lead and was packing the paint to prevent "easy" baskets and offensive rebounds. When Wright made those 3-pointers, Utah was forced to defend out to the 3-point line. That opened things up for Aldridge to go to work down low and Lillard to drive and finish/get to the line.

Our offense relies on multiple 3-point threats to spread the floor. With Wes out for the season and Batum out last night, we needed Wright and Crabbe knocking down 3s to spread the floor That's exactly what they did, and it worked like a charm in the 4th. Gee has only made one 3-pointer in his 9 games as a Blazer (Wright and Crabbe combined for 3 made 3s in the 4th quarter alone last night). Gee simply does not space the floor the way Crabbe and Wright do. With Hayward out last night, it's not like we needed Gee's defense. Crabbe and Wright played acceptable defense and gave us the floor spacing we needed. And, once the floor was spread Dame and Aldridge took over and carried us to the win.

BNM
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Thing is, Dorrell Wright deserves the lion's share of blame for us being down so far after three quarters. Boneheaded defensive plays, weak and/or ill-advised passes, lollygagging down the court in both directions, and standing still watching his or a teammates' shot bounce off the rim instead of going after the rebound...
 
blue9 said:
Thanks for a response without the snark of the original.
I understand the need for spacing, but given the injuries and Gee's solid performance the night before it's a little off-putting to see that he got a DNP-CD. Now, if he lost his legs due to the previous night's game that's a decent reason for holding him out (though I'm skeptical that a professional athlete would be so out of shape). But I'm so sick and tired of Stotts' philosophy of "spacing" and winning games with jump shots. We need to diversify our portfolio, and that's exactly what Gee does - he brings things to the table that no other player does. He creates easy scoring opportunities through his hustle. If we're going to win a Playoff series Gee will be more instrumental to that happening than Crabbe. But without getting consistent minutes he'll continue to free-lance...which might actually be better than a Stotts set play.
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Gee is a compliment to players like Wes and Nic, not a replacement for them. With Wright and Crabbe spacing the floor, it allowed Dame to penetrate at will in the 4th. I'd much rather have Dame driving, finishing and getting fouled that Gee.

The 4th quarter last night was a perfect example of the diverse offense you desire. Wright and Crabbe were scoring from deep, Aldridge was going to work down low and Dame was driving, finishing and getting fouled in the paint. Over the last 6 minutes of the game, 100% of our scoring was on layups and FTs. After Crabbe's 3-pointer with 6:31 left in the game, we didn't make a FG longer than 3-feet. It was those 3s that Wright and Crabbe hit that opened things up in the paint. That wouldn't have happened with Alonzo Gee in the game.

A 37-point quarter is a thing of beauty, especially against a team like Utah. They just had a streak of 12 consecutive games where they held their opponents to 91 points, or less (85 or less in 10 of the 12). If Gee would have been in the game in the 4th quarter, no way do we will. He would have just clogged things up and prevented Aldridge and Lillard from scoring at will in the paint. The LAST thing we needed last night was Alonzo Gee stalling our offense and letting Utah pack the paint against Aldridge and Lillard. We would have lost by double digits. Kudos to Coach Stotts for recognizing this and making the correct call.

BNM
 
dviss1 said:
What you complained about was some bullshit... So no...
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If you think the idea of getting Gee integrated with the rest of the team before the POs start is "some bullshit" then...yeah?
 
blue9 said:
If you think the idea of getting Gee integrated with the rest of the team before the POs start is "some bullshit" then...yeah?
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You can frame it anyway you want but it's still bullshit. Read BNM's post, learn the game, then you post. Or.... Not.. post...
 
It's nothing to complain about after a win. You'd complain if we won by 30....
 
dviss1 said:
It's nothing to complain about after a win. You'd complain if we won by 30....
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I've always been more concerned with HOW we play than whether we win or lose (in the regular season).
Alright - enough bullshit for today. I'm going home. Go Homers!
 
blue9 said:
So, because we beat UTH things are hunky-dory now? No room for complaints or improvement? Mkay.
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Utah had the second best record, and best defense, in the league since the All-Star break. They just had a 12-game streak where they went 10-2 and held their opponents to: 82, 75, 85, 82, 83, 88, 82, 91, 85, 66, 88 and 73 points. The last time we played them, they beat us 92-76. I'm not sure if beating them makes things hunky-dory, but it's certainly a good win - especially on their floor on the second night of a home-away back-to-back with Wes (of course), Batum and Kaman all out.

Besides, starting a thread to criticize the coach's decisions when you didn't even watch the game, seems disingenuous, at best. That's analogous to critiquing a restaurant after reading the menu online. You might want to actually eat there before telling everyone the food tastes awful.

BNM
 
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