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So is the deal completely off? If so, how come Ken Berger hasn't reported it as well?
 
Same stuff every year. I will have to remind myself to not care come the trade deadline since nothing seems to happen unless it is some minor deal. That is, assuming there is even basketball next year.
 
Allisa told me! :devilwink:
I think there would be more legit sources saying the deal was dead if it was. ESPN is still rolling with it as "serious".

I'm told Cavs-Bobcats talks about Wallace are dead. Wallace didn't want to be in Cleveland anyway. Portland talks real serious.
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i really hope the blazers get this worked out by deadline. at least wallace and hopefully augustin. char would love picks and paul allen's money. i say give them lots of both.
 
Minstrel said:
There are a few posters on this forum who have decided that their gimmick will be ranting when things don't go the way they hoped, because they don't have any reasoned analysis to offer. All we can do is watch them with amusement.
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A few???

barfo
 
The past and present Hornets have now screwed us in the last year by getting cold feet. First on Chris Paul (under kpee) and now on Gerald Wallace (under Cho).

Maybe we (as a franchise) are just being bullied? Teams saying "Hey, you want these guys? We'll give them to you for nothing. Seriously, just come over here. Sike. *knocks Portland down, chuckles darkly*"
 
jwquick: Joel Przybilla will start at center and McMillan says no players will be held out
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Unless Camby is involved, not happening. Tonight, anyway,
 
Minstrel said:
There are a few posters on this forum who have decided that their gimmick will be ranting when things don't go the way they hoped, because they don't have any reasoned analysis to offer. All we can do is watch them with amusement.
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GREAT post! I have to spread rep around before I can rep ya again.
 
EGame said:
Same stuff every year. I will have to remind myself to not care come the trade deadline since nothing seems to happen unless it is some minor deal. That is, assuming there is even basketball next year.
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Outlaw/Blake for Camby wasn't a minor deal.
 
I'm glad we're playing our guys. MJ wants to pull back; let him sweat. He can have a conversation with his accountants tonight on how much he's going to lose on a team that at best will have the opportunity to get swept in the first round and most likely will be in the lottery.
 
This is fuckin shit..... i hate fucking trade deadline with this team (not saying it was cho's fault)
 
KingSpeed said:
Outlaw/Blake for Camby wasn't a minor deal.
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I will grant you that. That was a nice deal for us, but at the same time, we always seem to be linked to all-stars/former all-star players only to flop. Now, it is obvious we were never going to beat Utah giving up Williams for Harris, but this whole Wallace deal, well I would like to see what the reason the holdup/cold feet is. Perhaps MJ just wants to keep Wallace, or maybe he wants Batum and once again we are acting like he is a God and untouchable. I don't really know, but whatever.
 
Technically, a trade could happen as soon as both games are concluded yeah? Or is there a mandatory cooling off period?
 
LOTBfan said:
Technically, a trade could happen as soon as both games are concluded yeah? Or is there a mandatory cooling off period?
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A trade could be completed (as in, officially agreed upon) the moment both sides agree, even during a game.
 
Minstrel said:
When were the Blazers, under Cho, reported to be interested in Gortat or Hinrich?
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Any team that has Oden go down, Pendy go down, Joel expiring and returning from injury and Camby (old, injury prone) and is not interested in a guy like Gortat (productive on small contract for a big) is stupid.

As for Hinrich - any team that uses Patty Mills and Rudy as backup PG and is not interested in him as a backup PG for close to nothing - is again pretty stupid.

It is pretty clear that there is either paralysis by analysis or a sham with a puppet GM.
 
Cho's probably moved on to a Chris Paul deal by now, anyway.
 
andalusian said:
Any team that has Oden go down, Pendy go down, Joel expiring and returning from injury and Camby (old, injury prone) and is not interested in a guy like Gortat (productive on small contract for a big) is stupid.

As for Hinrich - any team that uses Patty Mills and Rudy as backup PG and is not interested in him as a backup PG for close to nothing - is again pretty stupid.

It is pretty clear that there is either paralysis by analysis or a sham with a puppet GM.
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Or maybe they've been busy with bigger trade options and now will look to making a more minor trade?
 
Correct me if im wrong but a few years ago it was raef lafrentz and draft picks for wallace right? Im feeling some major deja-vu, and im crying at the same time :sigh:

While I do want gerald wallace on the blazers, he is also the best player to ever play for the bobcats, even though that isnt saying much. So im not that shocked that MJ is having second thoughts or cold feet.
 
e_blazer said:
Cho's probably moved on to a Chris Paul deal by now, anyway.
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Paul Allen will only offer Patty Mills and cash considerations though. Maybe they'll get lucky with one of their crazy lowball offers?
 
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andalusian said:
Any team that has Oden go down, Pendy go down, Joel expiring and returning from injury and Camby (old, injury prone) and is not interested in a guy like Gortat (productive on small contract for a big) is stupid.

As for Hinrich - any team that uses Patty Mills and Rudy as backup PG and is not interested in him as a backup PG for close to nothing - is again pretty stupid.

It is pretty clear that there is either paralysis by analysis or a sham with a puppet GM.
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I think whether interest (by which I mean, serious attempts to acquire the player) is smart or stupid depends on the price involved. If the Wizards wanted Batum (as an example), not having interest in Hinrich was perfectly rational.

I'm "interested" in Aaron Brooks as a backup point guard. That interest would evaporate quickly if the cost were particularly significant.

My general philosophy on evaluating GMs/front offices is that evaluating decision-making process requires actual knowledge of what the decision-maker is thinking, what was actually available and what their constraints were. Judging without those things is largely just opinions made of nothing more substantial than air.

That doesn't mean I don't think fans can have legitimate opinions on GMs but, lacking the ability to see and therefore judge the decision-making process, I think you have to work with results over a representative sample. I personally don't think that well under one year is a representative sample for an executive, who's plans can legitimately be 2-3 years in scope.
 
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