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ehizzy3

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https://youtu.be/0HzB2tAUd64
https://www.axios.com/trump-russia-...all-4a0f6110-ab58-41c0-96fc-57b507462af1.html

President Trump has never confronted Vladimir Putin with intelligence indicating Russia paid the Taliban to kill U.S. troops, he told “Axios on HBO” in an interview on Tuesday.

Why it matters: Democrats have seized on the issue, and Trump's reluctance to discuss it, as evidence he’s unwilling to challenge Putin even when American lives are at stake.

  • Trump spoke with Putin on Thursday, and subsequently deflected a question about whether he’d raised the alleged bounty scheme, saying on Monday: “We don't talk about what we discussed, but we had plenty of discussion.”
In Tuesday’s interview, he was definitive:

“I have never discussed it with him.”
Pressed on why he didn’t raise the matter in Thursday’s call, he said: “That was a phone call to discuss other things, and frankly that’s an issue that many people said was fake news.”

  • Trump has spoken to Putin at least eight times since intelligence about the alleged Russian bounties was reportedly includedin the President's Daily Brief — his written intelligence briefing — in late February.
  • Trump’s team says he was not verbally briefed on the matter before a June 26 report from the New York Times brought the controversy out into the open.




https://twitter.com/rgoodlaw/status/1288462843


Send this terrorist to gitmo and let him meet big bob
 
ehizzy3 said:

https://www.axios.com/trump-russia-...all-4a0f6110-ab58-41c0-96fc-57b507462af1.html

President Trump has never confronted Vladimir Putin with intelligence indicating Russia paid the Taliban to kill U.S. troops, he told “Axios on HBO” in an interview on Tuesday.

Why it matters: Democrats have seized on the issue, and Trump's reluctance to discuss it, as evidence he’s unwilling to challenge Putin even when American lives are at stake.

  • Trump spoke with Putin on Thursday, and subsequently deflected a question about whether he’d raised the alleged bounty scheme, saying on Monday: “We don't talk about what we discussed, but we had plenty of discussion.”
In Tuesday’s interview, he was definitive:

“I have never discussed it with him.”
Pressed on why he didn’t raise the matter in Thursday’s call, he said: “That was a phone call to discuss other things, and frankly that’s an issue that many people said was fake news.”

  • Trump has spoken to Putin at least eight times since intelligence about the alleged Russian bounties was reportedly includedin the President's Daily Brief — his written intelligence briefing — in late February.
  • Trump’s team says he was not verbally briefed on the matter before a June 26 report from the New York Times brought the controversy out into the open.




https://twitter.com/rgoodlaw/status/1288462843


Send this terrorist to gitmo and let him meet big bob
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There is no evidence to corroborate Russians putting bounties on American soldiers. None whatsoever.
 
The backstory: The New York Times reported in June that U.S. intelligence had concluded “months ago” that an infamous Russian military intelligence unit had offered payments for each U.S. or allied soldier killed.

  • Those payments were funneled through middlemen and could run as high as $100,000, according to the Times.
  • The White House claimed that Trump had not been briefed on the matter because the intelligence was inconclusive.
  • Multiple outlets subsequently reported that the intelligence was included in the PDB, but that Trump may not have read it.
  • Trump insisted in the interview that he does read the PDB — “they like to say I don’t read, I read a lot” — but stood by the claim that the matter “never reached my desk” because U.S. intelligence “didn’t think it was real.”
 
Nice.

Looking forward to another one of these classics from delusional libs then:

 
I wonder what the Covid infection rate is at Gitmo. Maybe it's the safest place on earth....other than New Zealand
 
CupWizier said:
lmao!

Did you even watch your linked video? He clearly states at the end he was not successful in closing it. Wanting to close and closing are not the same.

Nice try though, but beware of troll bait. It tastes like crow. :biglaugh:
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Oh. Damn. My bad.
 
jonnyboy said:
There is no evidence to corroborate Russians putting bounties on American soldiers. None whatsoever.
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Apparently you are in the minority on this. I've seen reports by the New York Times, USA Today and NPR that say it's highly likely and that American and Afghan military intelligence sure thinks so.
 
Lanny said:
Apparently you are in the minority on this. I've seen reports by the New York Times, USA Today and NPR that say it's highly likely and that American and Afghan military intelligence sure thinks so.
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But reports are not evidence. They are hyptheticals. Assumptions. A report may CONTAIN evidence, but reports are NOT evidence.

Otherwise I can report that I flew to the moon last week and there is my evidence that i'm a moonwalker. Cause I had a photo taken holding a space suit helmet once, I can include that in my report as evidence.
 
jonnyboy said:
There is no evidence to corroborate Russians putting bounties on American soldiers. None whatsoever.
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Head in the sand is a poor way to go through life johnny boy. Should it just be ignored, brushed off and not do anything? or should there be further investigation?

You make the call johnny boy.
 
Orion Bailey said:
But reports are not evidence. They are hyptheticals. Assumptions. A report may CONTAIN evidence, but reports are NOT evidence.

Otherwise I can report that I flew to the moon last week and there is my evidence that i'm a moonwalker. Cause I had a photo taken holding a space suit helmet once, I can include that in my report as evidence.
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Should it just be ignored then and no further investigation?
 
CupWizier said:
Should it just be ignored then and no further investigation?
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Not at all, however confusion and fake news starts with misrepresentation of reports as evidence, hearsay as fact, etc.

I'm just saying, in an effort to maintain clarity, a report isn't evidence. It may contain evidence, but a report itself doesn't constitute evidence and i'm pretty sure any court would agree with me.

Reports should be taken for what the are and be based off who is writing it and what evidence was provided to support the report.

When someone is asserting that any major news report is evidence, I question it in today's media bias.
 
Orion Bailey said:
Not at all, however confusion and fake news starts with misrepresentation of reports as evidence, hearsay as fact, etc.

I'm just saying, in an effort to maintain clarity, a report isn't evidence. It may contain evidence, but a report itself doesn't constitute evidence and i'm pretty sure any court would agree with me.

Reports should be taken for what the are and be based off who is writing it and what evidence was provided to support the report.

When someone is asserting that any major news report is evidence, I question it in today's media bias.
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Yeah, thanks to trump some people believe all news is fake where as in reality, most of the fake information comes from trump and his administration. This is an extremely serious matter and it appears there is enough evidence to get to the bottom of this and heads need to roll.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/30/us/politics/russian-bounties-afghanistan-intelligence.html
 
CupWizier said:
Yeah, thanks to trump some people believe all news is fake where as in reality, most of the fake information comes from trump and his administration. This is an extremely serious matter and it appears there is enough evidence to get to the bottom of this and heads need to roll.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/30/us/politics/russian-bounties-afghanistan-intelligence.html
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Not doubt Trump is a large part of it, But the left has also been doing the same thing. maybe to a lesser extent, but its pretty obvious, any major news outlet is going to be bias based on their political leanings and for that reason, I don't trust any reports from any of them without reading a report that has factual references to substantiate the report.

Many reports I see tossed around as evidence are purely opinion pieces. This goes for both sides.
 
ehizzy3 said:
The backstory: The New York Times reported in June that U.S. intelligence had concluded “months ago” that an infamous Russian military intelligence unit had offered payments for each U.S. or allied soldier killed.

  • Those payments were funneled through middlemen and could run as high as $100,000, according to the Times.
  • The White House claimed that Trump had not been briefed on the matter because the intelligence was inconclusive.
  • Multiple outlets subsequently reported that the intelligence was included in the PDB, but that Trump may not have read it.
  • Trump insisted in the interview that he does read the PDB — “they like to say I don’t read, I read a lot” — but stood by the claim that the matter “never reached my desk” because U.S. intelligence “didn’t think it was real.”
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"New York Times," lol...
 
CupWizier said:
Head in the sand is a poor way to go through life johnny boy. Should it just be ignored, brushed off and not do anything? or should there be further investigation?

You make the call johnny boy.
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Oh by all means investigate further. Absolutely. Just don’t act as the judge, jury and executioner before you have a single shred of evidence.
 
jonnyboy said:
Oh by all means investigate further. Absolutely. Just don’t act as the judge, jury and executioner before you have a single shred of evidence.
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Never did, but there is evidence.
 
jonnyboy said:
This is the part where you present the evidence.
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Do your own search. You seldom if ever provide evidence and your fall back is, " it's my opinion". Not interested in playing your game.
 
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