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Kuminga next to Sharpe would be absurd. Now I'm at a point where I'll be disappointed if we don't get him at the deadline, lol.

With Draymond coming back and Kuminga getting 35 min after a talk with Kerr, I'm not holding my breath. They're trying to win.
 
Nope, not at all.
Why do you think he's a talented talent evaluator? Rupert and Murray look like crap so far. Scoot fell into our laps (and even he isn't looking good, but not like we passed on anyone that looks much better)
 
I wonder if the Warriors would have any interest in DeAndre Ayton?
 
No way I'd take him #1. This Kuminga love is getting a bit out-of-control.

Who was the last Golden St player to leave their franchise and turn out to be a way better player than they were with the Warriors? Doesn't seem to happen often.
I wouldn't take hime #1 either.

But he did go #7 in a slightly better/deeper draft. Even now (@21) I would still take him top 10 in this upcoming draft
 
No way I'd take him #1. This Kuminga love is getting a bit out-of-control.

Who was the last Golden St player to leave their franchise and turn out to be a way better player than they were with the Warriors? Doesn't seem to happen often.
Jordan Poole about to play himself out of the league soon.

 
Why do you think he's a talented talent evaluator? Rupert and Murray look like crap so far. Scoot fell into our laps (and even he isn't looking good, but not like we passed on anyone that looks much better)

Outside of the lottery every pick is a crap shoot. Nobody gives teams hell for not drafting Giannis or Jokic. I am not factoring in Rupert or Murray as they are just crap shots. Gotta pick someone if you can't trade the picks for fair value. Scoot was the no brainer pick given who was taken before him. I think Scoot will be a stud once he gets settled. He is certainly ahead of where Ant and Sharpe were the first half of their rookie seasons. They had things to work on just like Scoot does. Waiting to see what happens at the trade deadline to determine if Scoot will be given the same chances Sharpe was at the end of his rookie season. But Sharpe was a gamble having no tape beyond high school. Pretty sure that was a pick made via data from Schmitz, same with Scoot. I'm just not gonna beat up on Scoot as he is working on his shooting. It has obviously improved from the pre injury games. It looks to me he does struggle against certain teams, or players. All part of the learning curve for young players. Same for Sharpe. You see lots of flashes. This next draft will be important. Schmitz is certainly doing tons of video work.
 
The Draymond Green decision is ridiculous. He should have been suspended for a minimum of 20 games, if not for the rest of the season. What he did was flagrant and extreme, and it is just one of many incidents he has been involved in over the years. He gets away with crap over and over again. The NBA is corrupt as hell. It’s sickening.
 
It's only 3% under league average, which is not bad for a big man. It just means he has that range.

you need to revise your math

Kuminga's career average is .336. The NBA average this season is .366. He's more than 8% below the league average. But, his average this season is .277, so this season he's 24% worse than the league average. He's also a 68% career FT shooter and that's often a bad indicator for perimeter shooting. And, I wouldn't call a guy listed as 6'8, 210 lbs a 'big'

all of that doesn't disqualify him as a target, although I do believe Portland has to be cautious about assembling a roster of bad shooters. I just don't think Portland should pay a high price for him
 
you need to revise your math

Kuminga's career average is .336. The NBA average this season is .366.
You spent all that time doing math when it's painfully obvious to everyone else, I would assume, that isn't looking to dispute EVERY post in here he comes across, that he meant 3 percentage points, and not specifically 3 percent, the way any normal person on here would discuss where someone lies in relation to their percentages. If Ant was shooting 42% from this year, and his career mark was 38%(I didn't look these up, so don't bother well actually-ing another fucking post), most anyone would say he's shooting 4% better. Not everything has to be torn apart and broken down for arguments sake. Good lord, I thought I sometimes have too much time on my hands. The lengths you go to argue everything is astounding.
Shit the other day someone mentioned Scoot clearing 75 feet in 2 dribbles(was it 3? I don't remember, I'm sure you'll correct me), and you of course had to well actually the distance. Like it changes anything at all. Unbelievable.
 
You spent all that time doing math when it's painfully obvious to everyone else, I would assume, that isn't looking to dispute EVERY post in here he comes across, that he meant 3 percentage points, and not specifically 3 percent, the way any normal person on here would discuss where someone lies in relation to their percentages. If Ant was shooting 42% from this year, and his career mark was 38%(I didn't look these up, so don't bother well actually-ing another fucking post), most anyone would say he's shooting 4% better. Not everything has to be torn apart and broken down for arguments sake. Good lord, I thought I sometimes have too much time on my hands. The lengths you go to argue everything is astounding.
Shit the other day someone mentioned Scoot clearing 75 feet in 2 dribbles(was it 3? I don't remember, I'm sure you'll correct me), and you of course had to well actually the distance. Like it changes anything at all. Unbelievable.

lol...yeah...I waste time while you're efficient

by the way, try telling somebody that 336 dollars is 3 dollars less that 366 dollars (yes...hyperbole)

and, you really need to put me on ignore because it sure seems I rankle the shit out of you
 
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lol...yeah...I waste time while you're efficient

by the way, try telling somebody that 336 dollars is 3 dollars less that 366 dollars (yes...hyperbole)

and, you really need to put me on ignore because it sure seems I rankle the shit out of you
No. The correct comparison is saying $33.60 is $3 dollars less than $36.60.
 
lol...yeah...I waste time while you're efficient

by the way, try telling somebody that 336 dollars is 3 dollars less that 366 dollars
That doesn't relate at all. Everyone knows what was meant by his 3% comment.
 
Why do you think he's a talented talent evaluator? Rupert and Murray look like crap so far. Scoot fell into our laps (and even he isn't looking good, but not like we passed on anyone that looks much better)

I was not thrilled with the Murray pick and got flamed for it. This upcoming draft, though, should settle the debate. It will be like trying to find a diamond in a shit storm.
 
lol...yeah...I waste time while you're efficient

by the way, try telling somebody that 336 dollars is 3 dollars less that 366 dollars (yes...hyperbole)

and, you really need to put me on ignore because it sure seems I rankle the shit out of you
You get a like for using the word ‘rankle’ on a sports forum!
 
you need to revise your math

Kuminga's career average is .336. The NBA average this season is .366. He's more than 8% below the league average. But, his average this season is .277, so this season he's 24% worse than the league average. He's also a 68% career FT shooter and that's often a bad indicator for perimeter shooting. And, I wouldn't call a guy listed as 6'8, 210 lbs a 'big'

all of that doesn't disqualify him as a target, although I do believe Portland has to be cautious about assembling a roster of bad shooters. I just don't think Portland should pay a high price for him

Kuminga's numbers look similar to Grant's early in his career and Wiggins have randomly been like them. I think what people are hopeful for is that regular minutes and a defined role as a starter is beneficial. Definitely agree that we should not pay a high price.

Wiz, giving this example for others because I know you already understand this.

Say GS would agree to trading him straight up for their pick plus any contract that would put us under the luxury tax.

The numbers look the same for next season but after that he is due a contract. If we keep the pick, we probably get a player in a similar development stage with atleast half the salary requirement year two and beyond. With Kuminga, we would get a year and a half to decide if he is worth keeping. With the pick, we get five years plus cap room.

Big game today. If Toronto wins, it improves the pick and gives further distance from the Raptors. If the Warriors win, it makes a late tank attempt harder.
 
What exactly were you expecting out of the 43rd pick of the draft?
Not so much Rupert since 2nd rounders rarely amount to anything, but Kris Murray is a 23 year old rookie and he's looking like a wasted pick. What body of work are we looking at that say Mike is a good talent evaluator?
 
Kuminga's numbers look similar to Grant's early in his career and Wiggins have randomly been like them. I think what people are hopeful for is that regular minutes and a defined role as a starter is beneficial. Definitely agree that we should not pay a high price.

Wiz, giving this example for others because I know you already understand this.

Say GS would agree to trading him straight up for their pick plus any contract that would put us under the luxury tax.

The numbers look the same for next season but after that he is due a contract. If we keep the pick, we probably get a player in a similar development stage with atleast half the salary requirement year two and beyond. With Kuminga, we would get a year and a half to decide if he is worth keeping. With the pick, we get five years plus cap room.

Big game today. If Toronto wins, it improves the pick and gives further distance from the Raptors. If the Warriors win, it makes a late tank attempt harder.

sure. I wasn't advocating one way or the other for Kuminga. I was just pointing out that the Blazers had 2 TPE's big enough t0 absorb Kuming's deal, but were also dealing with the tax line...and the Vulcans are involved
 
you need to revise your math

Kuminga's career average is .336. The NBA average this season is .366. He's more than 8% below the league average. But, his average this season is .277, so this season he's 24% worse than the league average. He's also a 68% career FT shooter and that's often a bad indicator for perimeter shooting. And, I wouldn't call a guy listed as 6'8, 210 lbs a 'big'

all of that doesn't disqualify him as a target, although I do believe Portland has to be cautious about assembling a roster of bad shooters. I just don't think Portland should pay a high price for him

I wish we could post gifs, because you would get the Justin Timberlake stare for this one.

And if we get an athletic PF, that can rebound, defend and score inside, I"m not super concerned if their 3pt perentage is 33% vs 36%.
 
I wish we could post gifs, because you would get the Justin Timberlake stare for this one.

And if we get an athletic PF, that can rebound, defend and score inside, I"m not super concerned if their 3pt perentage is 33% vs 36%.

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sure. I wasn't advocating one way or the other for Kuminga. I was just pointing out that the Blazers had 2 TPE's big enough t0 absorb Kuming's deal, but were also dealing with the tax line...and the Vulcans are involved

Doubt the move would be made in a vacuum but was commenting on how drafting someone vs trading for Kuminga would not be equal in how we allocate our cap space.

And if we get an athletic PF, that can rebound, defend and score inside, I"m not super concerned if their 3pt perentage is 33% vs 36%.

What leads you to believe he will rebound? At his size, have only seen players be able to rebound with elite instincts. Think the Grant and Wiggins comparisons are best case scenarios.
 
Doubt the move would be made in a vacuum but was commenting on how drafting someone vs trading for Kuminga would not be equal in how we allocate our cap space.



What leads you to believe he will rebound? At his size, have only seen players be able to rebound with elite instincts. Think the Grant and Wiggins comparisons are best case scenarios.
He's already a better rebounder than Grant. Grant is 10% TRB, Kuminga over 14%. He's not good yet, but at least average.
 
Jackson-Davis and Pods both have better TR% in the same system.

Has there been a player that has become a significantly better rebounder after their 3rd season?
 
Golden State is only a 2 point favorite over the wilting Raptors. Dub Nation must be pulling their hair out they don't get to draft. How did Boston end up with the 2024 Warriors pick?
 

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