Politics Good people vs bad people

[Mediocre Man]

Oh for crying out loud.

Honest question. Define it.

 

[Lanny]

Honest question. Define it.

It's so obvious that I'm at a loss as to how to make it even simpler.
I'll attempt.
Approx. 1.5 Million people are in prison. That's custody. Did I really have to spell that out?

 

[Mediocre Man]

I would be be curious to see the statistics on repeat offenders after parole or escape.

How many families torn apart because someone who was "safely in custody" wasn't anymore.

Does it have to be someone in your family? A friend?

Fuck em. Bullet to the head

 

[Lanny]

I would be be curious to see the statistics on repeat offenders after parole or escape.

How many families torn apart because someone who was "safely in custody" wasn't anymore.

Does it have to be someone in your family? A friend?

Fuck em. Bullet to the head

Well, let's just put all 1.5 Million of them to death. There would at the most be a tiny protest.
Anyhow, they're all no good and not deservin' of livin' and that includes Johnny Cash if he were alive.
Did anybody ever tell you that you're cold hearted?

 

[Mediocre Man]

Well, let's just put all 1.5 Million of them to death. There would at the most be a tiny protest.
Anyhow, they're all no good and not deservin' of livin' and that includes Johnny Cash if he were alive.
Did anybody ever tell you that you're cold hearted?

I'm a good man, who loves his family, and would give the shirt off his back to help someone.

But you know me so well, you probably knew that already.

 

[PDXFonz]

I'm not talking about that. I'm talking about killing a man when you've got him safely in custody and for killing him for theft.

Like the 4 whom were shot, thievery was at times punishable by death. I stand by my stance and you can see it or proclaim it however you would like.

If you choose to break into someone’s house you are accepting a possible death sentence, and seeing how there is no reason for you to be in there in the first place - the consequences fit the action.

 

[barfo]

Theft, and breaking and entering, are two different crimes.

barfo

 

[Lanny]

Like the 4 whom were shot, thievery was at times punishable by death. I stand by my stance and you can see it or proclaim it however you would like.

If you choose to break into someone’s house you are accepting a possible death sentence, and seeing how there is no reason for you to be in there in the first place - the consequences fit the action.

So, you want to go back to stealing a loaf of bread is punishable by the death sentence.
Breaking into someone's house while they're home is risking death because the home owner doesn't know if his life is threatened or not. It doesn't take a genius to figure that out.
Sentencing someone to death for robbing a bank once you've caught him and have him in prison is insanity.

 

[Lanny]

I'm a good man, who loves his family, and would give the shirt off his back to help someone.

But you know me so well, you probably knew that already.

I believe you. I just think sentencing someone to death for theft once you've arrested him and have him in prison is cold hearted.

 

[Mediocre Man]

I believe you. I just think sentencing someone to death for theft once you've arrested him and have him in prison is cold hearted.

And I think it's cold hearted of people to take things that I worked hard to buy.

 

[Lanny]

And I think it's cold hearted of people to take things that I worked hard to buy.

Punishment fits the crime. Every school child knows this.
You don't murder someone because they walk out with your favorite TV.
You kill someone because they threaten your life.

 

[Mediocre Man]

Punishment fits the crime. Every school child knows this.
You don't murder someone because they walk out with your favorite TV.
You kill someone because they threaten your life.

How does anyone know intent?

 

[Lanny]

How does anyone know intent?

Not sure what you mean by that but I do know that Richard Nixon told Frost in a TV interview that he could never be convicted in an impeachment trial because no one could prove he had evil intent.
Well, when you're not home when the theft occurs I'm going to presume that no one tried to kill you. That seems like a reasonable assumption. Besides, if you're not there then you're not there, so where does the death penalty come into play? Seems to me like breaking and entering and theft might be the charges and we don't put people to death for that because that would be insanity.

 

[Mediocre Man]

Not sure what you mean by that but I do know that Richard Nixon told Frost in a TV interview that he could never be convicted in an impeachment trial because no one could prove he had evil intent.
Well, when you're not home when the theft occurs I'm going to presume that no one tried to kill you. That seems like a reasonable assumption. Besides, if you're not there then you're not there, so where does the death penalty come into play? Seems to me like breaking and entering and theft might be the charges and we don't put people to death for that because that would be insanity.

But has I been home would they have tried?

 

[Lanny]

But has I been home would they have tried?

That's not the issue.

 

[MarAzul]

Don't steal.

Define "safely in custody"

I think the answer is when disabled. Isn't that why the police use handcuffs?

 

[PDXFonz]

Theft, and breaking and entering, are two different crimes.

barfo

Burglary is synonymous with theft

 

[barfo]

Burglary is synonymous with theft

Disagree. Burglary is entering a building with the intent to commit a theft or other crime. Robbery is taking something from someone directly, i.e. when they are present. Theft is just taking something, the owner doesn't have to be there and the item doesn't have to be in a building.

barfo

 

[MARIS61]

Florida woman fights off home intruder, tells him 'I'm not your mama'

By Travis Fedschun | Fox News

Florida woman fights off home intruder: 'Get out of my house!'

A suspect is behind bars in Fort Lauderdale, Florida after resident Alice Colmean says she bit a man trying to enter her house.

A woman in Florida got a rude awakening on Monday when she went to go check on a fire alarm and ended up in a fight for her life.

Alice Coleman said she woke up to a fire alarm going off and opened the front door of her Fort Lauderdale apartment to see what was happening. But that's when Fort Lauderdale police said 34-year-old Fitzroy Morton confronted her.

“He was telling me, ‘No, mama. Everything gon’ be all right,'” Coleman told WSVN. “‘Everything’s not going to be all right. I’m not your mama. I don’t know who you are. Get out of my house.'"

Morton then tried to push his way into Coleman's apartment armed with "a big butcher knife," the 61-year-old told WSVN.

“I was able to bite him, and I didn’t even have my teeth in my mouth like now,” Coleman told the television station. “My brother said, ‘How did you bite him?’ I said, ‘With the little teeth I got, I bit him!’ I felt some kind of danger. I sensed it, and I seen that look on his face. My life were in danger.”

Coleman said she was eventually able to fight off Morton and run out of her apartment.

“I ran out, and when I ran out, he locked himself in here,” Coleman told WSVN. “Locked me outta my own place.”

The 61-year-old was able to run to a neighbor's home and call police. Authorities took Morton into custody shortly after.

Broward County Jail records show the 34-year-old faces three felony charges, including two counts of burglary and false imprisonment. Morton appeared in court on Tuesday, where a judge denied bond, according to WSVN.

Coleman said now when she opens her front door, she'll have a different plan going forward.

“I’ll be more careful from now on when I open my door,” she said Tuesday. “I’ll open my door with my Taser, because I have one.”

 

[CupWizier]

But has I been home would they have tried?

Maybe. I watched a 60 minute special one time that was interviewing thieves and several mentioned that they won't do a home burglary unless the people are home so that way they first, won;t be surprised by them all of a sudden coming home and that if they are home, you know at least a wallet should be available.

 

[Mediocre Man]

Maybe. I watched a 60 minute special one time that was interviewing thieves and several mentioned that they won't do a home burglary unless the people are home so that way they first, won;t be surprised by them all of a sudden coming home and that if they are home, you know at least a wallet should be available.

Interesting. I guess they are betting that the home owner is unarmed or afraid to put a bullet in their brain

 

[CupWizier]

Interesting. I guess they are betting that the home owner is unarmed or afraid to put a bullet in their brain

These were professional thieves though, not your meth addicted thief that is looking for any money they can get their hands on for their next fix.

 

[Mediocre Man]

These were professional thieves though, not your meth addicted thief that is looking for any money they can get their hands on for their next fix.

I get it. It's really interesting.

 

[CupWizier]

I get it. It's really interesting.

It was a great piece and really interesting to listen to how sophisticated of a system some of these professional thieves had. The planning and execution of their plans had a lot of thought put into it. Some of them studied their victim to the point of almost knowing every move they would make. I have never had my house broken into but have had 2 cars stolen (actually same car twice) and several break ins on my vehicles stealing stereo gear.

 

[MARIS61]

Texas homeowner fatally shoots armed suspect during robbery attempt, cops say

A North Texas homeowner on Sunday fatally shot an alleged intruder after the suspect pulled out a gun when confronted, a report said.

The dramatic scene unfolded in Saginaw, a suburb of Forth Worth, at about 5 p.m., according to CBS local. The homeowner reportedly fetched his gun after hearing the commotion. There were reportedly two would-be burglars, according to reports.

Authorities are investigating the scene. The homeowner is not facing any charges. Authorities are searching for the other suspect.
https://www.foxnews.com/us/texas-ho...armed-suspect-during-robbery-attempt-cops-say

 

[Mediocre Man]

Texas homeowner fatally shoots armed suspect during robbery attempt, cops say

A North Texas homeowner on Sunday fatally shot an alleged intruder after the suspect pulled out a gun when confronted, a report said.

The dramatic scene unfolded in Saginaw, a suburb of Forth Worth, at about 5 p.m., according to CBS local. The homeowner reportedly fetched his gun after hearing the commotion. There were reportedly two would-be burglars, according to reports.

Authorities are investigating the scene. The homeowner is not facing any charges. Authorities are searching for the other suspect.
https://www.foxnews.com/us/texas-ho...armed-suspect-during-robbery-attempt-cops-say

Good for this homeowner

 

[MARIS61]

Bank guard who killed 3 assailants will not go to prison
The Prosecutor's office confirmed the man will not be prosecuted

By
Rico
-
19 August 2019

On the morning of Thursday, January 3, the guard at the BAC Coronado branch frustrated the assault by three men on a woman her husband, was carrying ¢30 million colones to deposit at the bank branch.

In what can only be described as a remarkable event, the guard, identified his last name Garbanzo, defended the bank customers and in the process took out – killed – all three assailants (father and his two sons) in a shoot out in the bank’s parking lot.

Just like out an action movie, the guard, who was very alert and had a good record at the shooting range, struggled with assailants while he was fired on, in a cross shootout. Two of the assailants, Carlos Roberto Quesada Ramírez, 46 (father) and his son, Jessy Roberto Quesada Fuentes, 29, died at the scene; his other son, Daniel Quesada Fuentes, 21, died moments later in hospital.

The guard was also injured in the shootout, but not seriously.

The video and news of the bravery of the lonely guard went viral on the social networks.

However, since, many wondered if there would be any criminal consequences against the bank guard despite the fact that the videos show that his actions were fully justified.

The Prosecutor (Fiscalía del Segundo Circuito Judicial de San José) confirmed the man will not be prosecuted, that he acted in self-defence and to protect the potential vicitms of the assault. Now, it only remains that the Criminal Court dismisses case.

“The Prosecutor’s Office is waiting for the Criminal Court to hold a hearing, in which the prosecutor of the case will present the corresponding evidence to be analyzed and the petition is accepted,” said the communication department of the Prosecutor’s Office.
https://qcostarica.com/bank-guard-who-killed-3-assailants-will-not-go-to-prison/

 

[Lanny]

Bank guard who killed 3 assailants will not go to prison
The Prosecutor's office confirmed the man will not be prosecuted

By
Rico
-
19 August 2019

On the morning of Thursday, January 3, the guard at the BAC Coronado branch frustrated the assault by three men on a woman her husband, was carrying ¢30 million colones to deposit at the bank branch.

In what can only be described as a remarkable event, the guard, identified his last name Garbanzo, defended the bank customers and in the process took out – killed – all three assailants (father and his two sons) in a shoot out in the bank’s parking lot.

Just like out an action movie, the guard, who was very alert and had a good record at the shooting range, struggled with assailants while he was fired on, in a cross shootout. Two of the assailants, Carlos Roberto Quesada Ramírez, 46 (father) and his son, Jessy Roberto Quesada Fuentes, 29, died at the scene; his other son, Daniel Quesada Fuentes, 21, died moments later in hospital.

The guard was also injured in the shootout, but not seriously.

The video and news of the bravery of the lonely guard went viral on the social networks.

However, since, many wondered if there would be any criminal consequences against the bank guard despite the fact that the videos show that his actions were fully justified.

The Prosecutor (Fiscalía del Segundo Circuito Judicial de San José) confirmed the man will not be prosecuted, that he acted in self-defence and to protect the potential vicitms of the assault. Now, it only remains that the Criminal Court dismisses case.

“The Prosecutor’s Office is waiting for the Criminal Court to hold a hearing, in which the prosecutor of the case will present the corresponding evidence to be analyzed and the petition is accepted,” said the communication department of the Prosecutor’s Office.
https://qcostarica.com/bank-guard-who-killed-3-assailants-will-not-go-to-prison/

You knew they deserved being killed when you look at their last names.

 

[MARIS61]

Philadelphia store employee shoots, kills armed robbery suspect, police say

By Travis Fedschun | Fox News

Police: MetroPCS employee shoots, kills would-be robber in Southwest Philly

Raw video: Dramatic surveillance video from inside the MetroPCS shows a man armed with a gun entering the phone store.

An armed man who allegedly tried to rob a mobile phone store in Philadelphia on Monday was shot and killed by an employee in a dramatic moment captured on video.

The Philadelphia Police Department said the incident happened just after 4 p.m. at a Metro PCS store in the southwest part of the city when an unidentified man who appeared to be in his late 30s entered the business.

The man was trying to rob the store when the lone employee inside – who has a permit to carry a firearm – fired at the would-be robber multiple times, striking him.

"I heard about 10 shots and I got out (of) the car to look around and I saw the guy that works there run out of the store with a gun in his hand," a man who wished to not be identified told FOX29.

Police said the robber was pronounced dead at the scene minutes later.
Debra Earle, who lives nearby, said she was rattled by what happened at the store.

“Very upsetting, very upsetting," she told FOX29. "You can’t feel safe walking down the street paying your phone bill right down the street from your home."

No other injuries were reported and the weapon was recovered, according to police.

The investigation into the incident is ongoing, FOX29 reported.

The Associated Press contributed to this report.
https://www.foxnews.com/us/philadelphia-store-employee-shoots-kills-armed-robbery-suspect

 

[Mediocre Man]

You knew they deserved being killed when you look at their last names.

And that they were criminals who had no problem killing innocent civilians