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Some of you have a very low standard for wanting to kill and/or hurt people.

Acting in self defense is not the same as wanting to kill/hurt someone.

Were they actively out looking for that or do they simply have a standard or line they will not let others cross when it comes to invasion of privacy and compromise of ones own safety and security in thier home?

If someone is stupid enough to attempt to rob a home, they are also making a choice to put their life in danger of retaliation.
When someone else puts you In that position, I'm sorry, I'm not going to assume he just wants a sandwich and means me no harm.

To think there isn't a high probability the criminal doesn't want to be caught and might try to rid the scene of evidence, which includes my heart pumping, is not wise and im going to act first to avoid being wrong.

Its them or me and they have proven they have no regard for my property, possession or safety aNd they have proven they are reckless enough to Put themselves in a dangerous situation. I can only assume he is also willing to go further.

Not gonna let it happen. Its them first

Sorry.
 
Acting in self defense is not the same as wanting to kill/hurt someone.

Were they actively out looking for that or do they simply have a standard or line they will not let others cross when it comes to invasion of privacy and compromise of ones own safety and security in thier home?

If someone is stupid enough to attempt to rob a home, they are also making a choice to put their life in danger of retaliation.
When someone else puts you In that position, I'm sorry, I'm not going to assume he just wants a sandwich and means me no harm.

To think there isn't a high probability the criminal doesn't want to be caught and might try to rid the scene of evidence, which includes my heart pumping, is not wise and im going to act first to avoid being wrong.

Its them or me and they have proven they have no regard for my property, possession or safety aNd they have proven they are reckless enough to Put themselves in a dangerous situation. I can only assume he is also willing to go further.

Not gonna let it happen. Its them first

Sorry.

And for the record, i do not own a gun.
 
I disagree.

D man, if someone points a gun at somebody, they may not deserve to die, but they put themselves in a situation in which they might.

Is the person with the gun always a bad person? No. Desperation can cause people to to do bad things. To make bad choices. Just as his desperation led him to point a gun at someone, her desperation and perhaps self preservation( and maybe other factors) led her to shoot him.
 
I don't own a firearm nor do I need one.

I leave my car and house unlocked and I live in the city.

If someone took some of my belongings, I have insurance. They can have them. I'll call the police. I would hate to end someone's life over a material possession I can reacquire...

I don't need one or possess one either. I still lock my doors. I have had my car stolen more than once. I have had people try and enter my house.

I have insurance. My stuff is replaceable. I lock my car because I don't want it stolen again. Yeah they can break a window. Insurance will pay for that. I have added a steering wheel lock. My car hasn't been stolen since.

Someone tried to come into my house one night around 1 am. My wife forgot to lock the door on the way to bed. I was still up. He walked in. I heard him. When he saw me he fled. Other people have opened my door and attempted to enter. I lock my door now. Not out of fear. Not even to protect my belongings. To protect my son. He is only 6.

I wouldn't kill someone if they broke in and refused to leave. I would subdue them. They might get hurt. I wouldn't kill them though. I would then call the police and take it from there.

I do agree I wouldn't take someones life if I didn't have to...especially over material things. If someone had a gun pointed at me, and I did have a gun...I don't know what my reaction would be.
 
Right.

1. I refuse to own a gun. (I just never will)
2. Someone breaks in my house.
3. They take whatever the fuck they want (Hell, I'll help them load it up).
4. I survive.
5. I don't kill anyone.
6. I file a police report and get all my shit back from insurance.

Most importantly:

7. No one dies.

How do you know you don't die? Because you have been in a situation where you didn't? Maybe there comes a time where it does end with you dead because you played it out that way hoping he would decide not shoot you instead of taking action. Maybe you saw his face and can indentify him. Maybe he can't have that.

Yes it is always ideal to de-escalate and keep the situation calm, but it doesn't always work that way. You have to be ready for it not to work that way.
 
Well, I assume your mother's basement windows have bars and she doesn't let you go outside. So of course you don't need a gun.

The content of your posts tells us all we need to know about your intellectual curiosity, so I wouldn't expect you to have any situation at all other than sittin'.

In my younger days, when I was raising a family in Portland, I was shot at on 2 separate occasions.

Back before cell phones, my wife and 2 pre-teen sons found ourselves in an hour-long, armed standoff against 2 drunk/high poachers looking for revenge in remote eastern Oregon, after my son and I reported them for shooting a doe in the middle of the highway as we were driving towards them the previous evening.

All 3 times I was carrying but quite luckily for the perpetrators I did not shoot them, although I decided long ago it was a mistake and an extremely risky gamble to my family that I held back in the standoff. It could have easily gone bad and I should have killed them both at first chance. Just got incredibly lucky, which is sort of how my whole life has been.

But this thread isn't about guns, necessarily, just Good people vs Bad people.

They are easy to tell apart.

Nice try little guy. My mother passed away when I was 37 years old which is 27 years ago.

What I find interesting is all the confrontations you have had while I have had zero. Maybe it's you and your actions that draw those kind to you. Just like lanny mentioned earlier, I grew up in a household that seldom locked the doors and often during the summer time would just have the screen door shut to allow cool air into the house. Never an incident. Do you wear your George Zimmerman merit badge around while trying to intimidate people with carrying a gun.
 
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How do you know you don't die? Because you have been in a situation where you didn't? Maybe there comes a time where it does end with you dead because you played it out that way hoping he would decide not shoot you instead of taking action. Maybe you saw his face and can indentify him. Maybe he can't have that.

Yes it is always ideal to de-escalate and keep the situation calm, but it doesn't always work that way. You have to be ready for it not to work that way.

If you're trying to convince me to purchase a gun.... You didn't...

And I would still follow my steps.
 
https://www.foxnews.com/us/hatchet-thief-oregon-store-clerk-gun

Hatchet-wielding thief backs down when store clerk pulls out gun - but firearm costs employee his job
By Robert Gearty | Fox News

Convenience store clerk draws gun, calls 911 on would-be hatchet wielding thief

Oregon authorities are seeking a would-be thief who was armed with a hatchet when he tried to rob a convenience store, only to flee when the clerk drew a gun and called 911.

However, the clerk's quick thinking cost him his job, with the president of Plaid Pantry in Oak Grove explaining to local station KOIN-TV that the chain has a zero-tolerance policy for weapons.

He said employees are trained to de-escalate robbery situations to avoid injury, according to the station.

The Clackamas County Sheriff’s Office on Friday released surveillance video of the incident which took place April 28 at the store, seeking tips in identifying the suspect who fled empty-handed and without the 12-inch hatchet.

clerk-gun.jpg

Image from surveillance video showing a convenience store in Oregon pulling out a gun on a masked would-be robber who had a hatchet. (Clackamas County Sheriff's Office )

“We’d like to reunite you with the hatchet you left behind after the clerk responded with a handgun and a 911 call and you fled the scene,” Sgt. Marcus Mendoza said in a news release.

Mendoza said the suspect placed the hatchet on the counter and reportedly telling the clerk, “I’m sorry. I’ll leave."

"The suspect got on his knees with his hands in the air, then abruptly fled the store," he said.
 
Of course, you can never be sure of the intent of anyone walking on the street, either. Or what about your boss? S/he might have evil intent. The local pastor? He's got a lot of time on his hands, probably up to no good.

Best to just kill them all.

barfo

This makes no sense.

Walking down the street is not a crime. It is also not a breaking into a private residence or trespassing.

Completely illogical post barfo....
 
This makes no sense.

Walking down the street is not a crime. It is also not a breaking into a private residence or trespassing.

Completely illogical post barfo....
Perhaps a little context would help.
 
https://www.foxnews.com/us/hatchet-thief-oregon-store-clerk-gun

Hatchet-wielding thief backs down when store clerk pulls out gun - but firearm costs employee his job
By Robert Gearty | Fox News

Convenience store clerk draws gun, calls 911 on would-be hatchet wielding thief

Oregon authorities are seeking a would-be thief who was armed with a hatchet when he tried to rob a convenience store, only to flee when the clerk drew a gun and called 911.

However, the clerk's quick thinking cost him his job, with the president of Plaid Pantry in Oak Grove explaining to local station KOIN-TV that the chain has a zero-tolerance policy for weapons.

He said employees are trained to de-escalate robbery situations to avoid injury, according to the station.

The Clackamas County Sheriff’s Office on Friday released surveillance video of the incident which took place April 28 at the store, seeking tips in identifying the suspect who fled empty-handed and without the 12-inch hatchet.

clerk-gun.jpg

Image from surveillance video showing a convenience store in Oregon pulling out a gun on a masked would-be robber who had a hatchet. (Clackamas County Sheriff's Office )

“We’d like to reunite you with the hatchet you left behind after the clerk responded with a handgun and a 911 call and you fled the scene,” Sgt. Marcus Mendoza said in a news release.

Mendoza said the suspect placed the hatchet on the counter and reportedly telling the clerk, “I’m sorry. I’ll leave."

"The suspect got on his knees with his hands in the air, then abruptly fled the store," he said.
Fuck his job. Has his life. Wish the kid that died here a few years ago because he couldn't open the safe at the liquor store he worked at was still alive.
 
What Do CDC's Surveys Say About the Frequency of Defensive Gun Uses?

Gary Kleck
Florida State University - College of Criminology and Criminal Justice

Date Written: July 11, 2018

Abstract
In 1996, 1997, and 1998, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) conducted large-scale surveys asking about defensive gun use (DGU) in four to seven states. Analysis of the raw data allows the estimation of the prevalence of DGU for those areas. Data pertaining to the same sets of states from the 1993 National Self-Defense Survey (Kleck and Gertz 1995) allow these results to be extrapolated to the U.S. as a whole. CDC’s survey data confirm previous high estimates of DGU prevalence, disconfirm estimates derived from the National Crime Victimization Survey, and indicate that defensive uses of guns by crime victims are far more common than offensive uses by criminals. CDC has never reported these results.
 
Every month so far this year, we’ve highlighted just a few of the tens of thousands of Americans who exercised their right to keep and bear arms for self-defense purposes. As with January, February, and March, April was full of underreported good guys using a gun.

—April 1, Mullan, Idaho. A domestic violence incident ended badly for the male attacker after his female victim defended herself by shooting him in the face. The man survived and is facing charges of domestic battery and attempted strangulation. The woman was hospitalized with her own injuries from the altercation, but escaped with her life.

—April 3, Duquesne, Pennsylvania. An elderly taxi driver picked up a passenger who, during the ride, proceeded to pull out a gun and demand money from him. The passenger didn’t know that the driver had a concealed carry permit and was armed with his own handgun. The driver shot and killed the passenger in self-defense.

—April 5, Tallahassee. Police responded to calls about a shooting, but arrived to find that the injured man was actually a would-be armed robber who had demanded money from his two victims while threatening to shoot them and their dog. One of the victims, fearing for his life, used his own gun to shoot the man in self-defense. The man was treated for his injuries, then charged with several felonies, including armed robbery and being a felon in possession of a firearm.

—April 7, Largo, Florida. Two good Samaritans stopped to help the victim of an apparent hit-and-run driver, only to have the man pull out a box cutter and threaten them. One of the good Samaritans was a concealed carry permit holder and shot the man in the leg in defense of himself and the other individual with him. Incredibly, the armed good Samaritan then used his belt as a tourniquet to treat the man’s wounds until medical personnel arrived. Local police said the good Samaritan acted in lawful self-defense.

—April 8, Chicago. A 78-year-old homeowner found three men using a crowbar to break into his house. When one of the robbers raised the crowbar to smash the glass door, the homeowner—who has a valid Illinois firearms permits—shot him, sending all three scattering. The homeowner told reporters that shooting another human being was a hard decision: “I didn’t feel good about doing that, but he would have gotten me with the crowbar. If I get hit with something like a baseball bat, or a crowbar, ain’t gonna make it.”

—April 10, Shasta County, California. After his brother brandished a firearm and threatened their mother by firing a round into the air, Jeffrey Snyder confronted him in their garage. When the brother advanced toward Jeffrey and pointed the gun at him, Jeffrey drew his own gun and fired several rounds, striking and wounding his brother. Deputies interviewed several family members and determined that Jeffrey acted in lawful self-defense, indicating that the brother will face criminal charges.

—April 14, Louisville, Kentucky. Tina Burton’s neighbor broke into her home, entered her 12-year-old daughter’s room, and stripped down to his underwear. Burton alerted her boyfriend, who then yelled at the man to leave and began hitting him with a broom. The man was undaunted and reportedly growled at the boyfriend before getting into a physical altercation. At that point, Burton handed her boyfriend a firearm, and he shot the nearly-naked intruder, who fled and was later arrested by police.

—April 16, Hampton, South Carolina. Despite living less than a block away from the local police department, a homeowner was forced to rely on his Second Amendment rights to defend himself against a home invasion after two men broke into his house. The homeowner shot both of his attackers, one of whom died at the scene while the second was captured by police a mile away.

—April 22, White Center, Washington. A homeowner shot and killed a man who broke into his house in the early morning hours. Police released the 911 recording, in which the terrified homeowner whispers information to the dispatcher while the intruder can be heard smashing items in the background. The dispatcher—later praised for her calm demeanor and precise instructions—talked the homeowner through a harrowing 12-minute call. After shooting one intruder who attacked him, the homeowner hid in the closet for another 7 minutes until police arrived because he heard other intruders and feared he was outnumbered.

—April 26, Chicago. A 41-year-old concealed carry permit holder shot and killed an armed carjacker. The carjacker intentionally rear-ended the permit holder, then threatened him with a gun and demanded his keys when the permit holder got out of his car to check the damage. That’s when the permit holder used his own firearm in self-defense.

—April 28, Ashwaubenon, Wisconsin. After store security systems alerted a small business owner that someone was inside the building after hours, the owner and an employee—a concealed carry permit holder who happened to be armed that night—went to investigate. The armed employee, using his handgun, was able to successfully detain the would-be thief until law enforcement arrived.

—April 30, Bradenton, Florida. A young homeowner saw two men walk onto his property, and then split to approach his front and back door at the same time. As the two would-be burglars attempted to use screwdrivers to break into the home, the homeowner saw that one of them was armed. He then procured his own firearm and fired several rounds at the men, who immediately took off running.

Like the Chicago homeowner referenced above, most lawful gun owners understand the gravity of taking another human life, even in lawful self-defense. They pray the day never comes when they must rely on their Second Amendment rights to protect themselves or others, because it will likely be the hardest moment of their lives.

But those hard moments come, and they come often. We do law-abiding citizens no favors by advocating statutes that make the right to keep and bear arms in self-defense more difficult to exercise. We simply tie one hand behind their backs and insist that they are safer for it.

https://www.dailysignal.com/2019/05/10/the-second-amendment-saved-these-gun-owners-lives-in-april/
 

But those hard moments come, and they come often. We do law-abiding citizens no favors by advocating statutes that make the right to keep and bear arms in self-defense more difficult to exercise. We simply tie one hand behind their backs and insist that they are safer for it.

https://www.dailysignal.com/2019/05/10/the-second-amendment-saved-these-gun-owners-lives-in-april/

Nobody is advocating to make it more difficult to purchase a fire arm legally, but on the other hand, nobody needs an AR15 to hunt or for protection. Only a macho idiot with a 3" dick thinks he needs one. We make it more difficult for those that aren't of LEGAL AGE to purchase alcohol or cigarettes. Like I mentioned before, I grew up in NE Portland and never had a need for a gun or came into an encounter where one was necessary. Must be your neighborhood and the sort of people you associate with that makes you feel the need.
 
What Do CDC's Surveys Say About the Frequency of Defensive Gun Uses?

Gary Kleck
Florida State University - College of Criminology and Criminal Justice

Date Written: July 11, 2018

Abstract
In 1996, 1997, and 1998, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) conducted large-scale surveys asking about defensive gun use (DGU) in four to seven states. Analysis of the raw data allows the estimation of the prevalence of DGU for those areas. Data pertaining to the same sets of states from the 1993 National Self-Defense Survey (Kleck and Gertz 1995) allow these results to be extrapolated to the U.S. as a whole. CDC’s survey data confirm previous high estimates of DGU prevalence, disconfirm estimates derived from the National Crime Victimization Survey, and indicate that defensive uses of guns by crime victims are far more common than offensive uses by criminals. CDC has never reported these results.
Except for the Army, hunting and target shooting, I've never had use of a firearm nor have I even heard of anyone needing a defensive use of a firearm.
 
Every month so far this year, we’ve highlighted just a few of the tens of thousands of Americans who exercised their right to keep and bear arms for self-defense purposes. As with January, February, and March, April was full of underreported good guys using a gun.

—April 1, Mullan, Idaho. A domestic violence incident ended badly for the male attacker after his female victim defended herself by shooting him in the face. The man survived and is facing charges of domestic battery and attempted strangulation. The woman was hospitalized with her own injuries from the altercation, but escaped with her life.

—April 3, Duquesne, Pennsylvania. An elderly taxi driver picked up a passenger who, during the ride, proceeded to pull out a gun and demand money from him. The passenger didn’t know that the driver had a concealed carry permit and was armed with his own handgun. The driver shot and killed the passenger in self-defense.

—April 5, Tallahassee. Police responded to calls about a shooting, but arrived to find that the injured man was actually a would-be armed robber who had demanded money from his two victims while threatening to shoot them and their dog. One of the victims, fearing for his life, used his own gun to shoot the man in self-defense. The man was treated for his injuries, then charged with several felonies, including armed robbery and being a felon in possession of a firearm.

—April 7, Largo, Florida. Two good Samaritans stopped to help the victim of an apparent hit-and-run driver, only to have the man pull out a box cutter and threaten them. One of the good Samaritans was a concealed carry permit holder and shot the man in the leg in defense of himself and the other individual with him. Incredibly, the armed good Samaritan then used his belt as a tourniquet to treat the man’s wounds until medical personnel arrived. Local police said the good Samaritan acted in lawful self-defense.

—April 8, Chicago. A 78-year-old homeowner found three men using a crowbar to break into his house. When one of the robbers raised the crowbar to smash the glass door, the homeowner—who has a valid Illinois firearms permits—shot him, sending all three scattering. The homeowner told reporters that shooting another human being was a hard decision: “I didn’t feel good about doing that, but he would have gotten me with the crowbar. If I get hit with something like a baseball bat, or a crowbar, ain’t gonna make it.”

—April 10, Shasta County, California. After his brother brandished a firearm and threatened their mother by firing a round into the air, Jeffrey Snyder confronted him in their garage. When the brother advanced toward Jeffrey and pointed the gun at him, Jeffrey drew his own gun and fired several rounds, striking and wounding his brother. Deputies interviewed several family members and determined that Jeffrey acted in lawful self-defense, indicating that the brother will face criminal charges.

—April 14, Louisville, Kentucky. Tina Burton’s neighbor broke into her home, entered her 12-year-old daughter’s room, and stripped down to his underwear. Burton alerted her boyfriend, who then yelled at the man to leave and began hitting him with a broom. The man was undaunted and reportedly growled at the boyfriend before getting into a physical altercation. At that point, Burton handed her boyfriend a firearm, and he shot the nearly-naked intruder, who fled and was later arrested by police.

—April 16, Hampton, South Carolina. Despite living less than a block away from the local police department, a homeowner was forced to rely on his Second Amendment rights to defend himself against a home invasion after two men broke into his house. The homeowner shot both of his attackers, one of whom died at the scene while the second was captured by police a mile away.

—April 22, White Center, Washington. A homeowner shot and killed a man who broke into his house in the early morning hours. Police released the 911 recording, in which the terrified homeowner whispers information to the dispatcher while the intruder can be heard smashing items in the background. The dispatcher—later praised for her calm demeanor and precise instructions—talked the homeowner through a harrowing 12-minute call. After shooting one intruder who attacked him, the homeowner hid in the closet for another 7 minutes until police arrived because he heard other intruders and feared he was outnumbered.

—April 26, Chicago. A 41-year-old concealed carry permit holder shot and killed an armed carjacker. The carjacker intentionally rear-ended the permit holder, then threatened him with a gun and demanded his keys when the permit holder got out of his car to check the damage. That’s when the permit holder used his own firearm in self-defense.

—April 28, Ashwaubenon, Wisconsin. After store security systems alerted a small business owner that someone was inside the building after hours, the owner and an employee—a concealed carry permit holder who happened to be armed that night—went to investigate. The armed employee, using his handgun, was able to successfully detain the would-be thief until law enforcement arrived.

—April 30, Bradenton, Florida. A young homeowner saw two men walk onto his property, and then split to approach his front and back door at the same time. As the two would-be burglars attempted to use screwdrivers to break into the home, the homeowner saw that one of them was armed. He then procured his own firearm and fired several rounds at the men, who immediately took off running.

Like the Chicago homeowner referenced above, most lawful gun owners understand the gravity of taking another human life, even in lawful self-defense. They pray the day never comes when they must rely on their Second Amendment rights to protect themselves or others, because it will likely be the hardest moment of their lives.

But those hard moments come, and they come often. We do law-abiding citizens no favors by advocating statutes that make the right to keep and bear arms in self-defense more difficult to exercise. We simply tie one hand behind their backs and insist that they are safer for it.

https://www.dailysignal.com/2019/05/10/the-second-amendment-saved-these-gun-owners-lives-in-april/
Few is right.
 
Nobody is advocating to make it more difficult to purchase a fire arm legally, but on the other hand, nobody needs an AR15 to hunt or for protection. Only a macho idiot with a 3" dick thinks he needs one. We make it more difficult for those that aren't of LEGAL AGE to purchase alcohol or cigarettes. Like I mentioned before, I grew up in NE Portland and never had a need for a gun or came into an encounter where one was necessary. Must be your neighborhood and the sort of people you associate with that makes you feel the need.
No, no, he has a point. Us city dwelling Liberals are planning an attack on La Pine. We dislike it because it has everything a man could want.
 
Here are just a few of these “no chance in a lifetime” cases, based on police accounts:

March 2, Los Lunas, New Mexico. A homeowner, responding to knocking at his door, was confronted by two individuals, one holding a knife and the other a baseball bat. They forced their way in and demanded money. The homeowner was able to retrieve his firearm, then shot and wounded both intruders, who collapsed outside and were arrested.

March 3, Cleveland. Two armed men wearing hoodies to conceal their faces entered a deli. One men tried to force his way behind the counter while the other yelled at the owner to open the cash register. The owner pulled out his own firearm and shot at the men, sending them running. The deli was open for business the next day, with the owner telling local media: “I have been here for 40 years, and I’m not going anywhere.”

March 7, Caro, Michigan. A man in violation of probation was trying to break into a car when he was stopped by the car’s armed owner. The would-be thief—already convicted of third-degree home invasion in 2016—was arraigned on 20 different counts, including attempted murder.

March 10, Chicago. A woman shot a man in self-defense after he began physically assaulting her, breaking her hand and covering her body in cuts and bruises.

March 11, Grants Pass, Oregon. A man forced his way into his ex-girlfriend’s home and cornered her in the bedroom with her son. The woman, who had called 911 before to report the man for entering her home and threatening her, fired her gun at him in fear for her life and that of her son. The man, hospitalized with non-life-threatening injuries, was charged with assault and menacing.

March 12, Harris County, Texas. Four masked men were in the process of robbing a physical therapy office when an employee with a concealed carry license drew his gun and fired at them, wounding one. The three others fled. One female patient was injured by the robbers, but the situation could have been much worse.

March 13, Germantown, Tennessee. A customer at an auto parts store got into an argument with a clerk and left only after discovering the clerk had a gun on his person. Later that afternoon, the clerk saw the customer returning to the store armed with a shotgun. Fearing for his safety and that of others inside the store, the clerk fired at the man through the store window, striking him in the chest.charged with aggravated assault and unlawful possession of a firearm.

March 14, Philadelphia.As Elvis Nuñez was closing his store, a masked man entered and pointed a gun at him. Nuñez complied with the man’s demands to open the cash register, but the robber fired a round at him anyway. He missed, and Nuñez was able to draw his own handgun from a hip holster. After an exchange of gunfire, the man ran wounded from the store.

March 18, Hoke County, North Carolina. Allen Thomas Jr. used his 12-gauge shotgun to scare away several people who unlawfully entered the townhouse he rents. Thomas is running for lieutenant governor of the state.

March 22, Fillmore, Utah. A homeowner awoke to loud yelling outside his front door. He grabbed his firearm and opened the door, where an ax-wielding man under the influence of drugs confronted him. Seeing that the homeowner was armed, the intruder returned to his car and drove away. When he was arrested later, law enforcement officers said they found five knives, two hatchets, and a can of pepper spray in his car.

March 26, Indianapolis. An armed intruder wearing a tactical vest with the word “police” emblazoned on it tried to confine a homeowner and his family to one room. The homeowner pulled his own firearm and shot the intruder, who fled the house. He later was arrested and charged with false imprisonment and impersonating a public servant.

March 28, Miami. When a woman he knew knocked on his door at 2 a.m., Pherrick Thomas thought it was safe to answer. Thomas was instead confronted by a man he had never met before who, armed with a rifle, attempted to force his way inside the home Thomas shared with his grandmother and great-grandmother. During a scuffle with the intruder, Thomas’ grandmother hit the man with a brick, giving Thomas time to take the man’s rifle and shoot him with it. A police officer responded to the gunfire and arrested the man and woman, who now face armed robbery charges. Thomas told reporters that seeing the intruder hit his grandmother gave him the strength to shoot: “I felt like if I was to die right there, they would kill my grandmother and great-grandmother, Lord forbid—God forbid.”

Most lawful gun owners pray that they never will be in a situation where they have to point a firearm at another human being, much less pull the trigger. But as these police reports show, those moments do occur, and it is better to be prepared than to be defenseless against those who care nothing for the rights of others.

The “good guy with a gun” does indeed exist, whether that good guy be law enforcement officers or armed civilians who exercise their natural right of self-defense when law enforcement can’t be there quick enough to intervene.

And we fully intend to keep giving those good guys with guns the recognition they deserve.
 
Below, we’ve highlighted just a handful of the many times during the month of February that law-abiding Americans demonstrated the importance of the Second Amendment.

  • Feb. 2: A restaurant owner in Akron, Ohio, scared off a masked man who attempted to rob him with a knife. The man fled, and police believe he successfully robbed a different restaurant just hours later.
  • Feb. 5: A Nashville, Tennessee, woman was attacked from behind by a would-be purse thief, who proceeded to repeatedly slam the woman’s head into a wall when she resisted him. The woman’s husband heard her cries for help and came to her defense, firing his gun at the thief and causing him to flee.
  • Feb. 9: When three armed men attempted to rob a Little Caesars restaurant in North Fort Myers, Florida, a patron inside pulled his own firearm to defend other customers. One suspect was shot and the other two fled.
  • Feb. 12: A homeowner in Jackson County, Georgia, heard someone trying to break into her house through a window. She found a man standing outside and warned him not to come into the house. Nevertheless, the man broke the glass window, so the armed homeowner shot him.
  • Feb. 13: Sullivan County, Tennessee, Sheriff Jeff Cassidy praised the actions of a concealed carry permit holder who ended a deadly domestic violence incident at a dentist’s office. The armed citizen shot and detained an active shooter who killed his wife and may have planned to harm others in the office.
  • Feb. 14: An Evans, Georgia, mother shot and killed her boyfriend after he began violently assaulting the woman’s 15-year-old son during an argument.
  • Feb. 16: Two masked assailants attempted to rob 35-year-old Antonio Santiago in Allentown, Pennsylvania, pepper spraying his face and “pistol whipping” him with a BB gun that appeared to be real. In an act of self-defense, Santiago grabbed his own handgun and fired at his attackers, killing one of them. Two other suspects fled, but were eventually arrested and tied to two other recent crimes in the area.
  • Feb. 17: An armed good Samaritan in Daytona Beach, Florida, intervened and fired a shot to stop a knife-wielding man, who had already stabbed someone, from stabbing other people outside a convenience store.
  • Feb. 20: A 79-year-old Commerce, Georgia, homeowner called 911 to report a burglary in progress after she heard someone breaking into her home. The burglar ignored her threats and came in through an upstairs window before police could arrive. The homeowner shot at the burglar, who was so scared that he hid in a closet until the police arrived.
  • Feb. 24: Three armed men ambushed a Houston, Texas, couple who were walking out of their apartment complex, forcing them back inside to rob them. The boyfriend retrieved his own firearm from within the apartment and exchanged fire with the three men, injuring one of them.
  • Feb. 26: The Mobile County, Alabama, Sheriff’s Office posted a Facebook video showing an armed local homeowner’s recent encounter with two would-be burglars. The burglars attempted to enter the occupied home in broad daylight, and were only deterred when the homeowner fired her handgun at them.
  • Feb. 27: A group of teenage thieves entered a pawn shop in Murfreesboro, Tennessee, and tried to flee with two guns they grabbed from behind the counter. Armed store clerks chased the teens and held them at gunpoint until the police could arrive, preventing the future unlawful use of those stolen firearms. Police believe these teens are responsible for other gun thefts and may be able to take other illegally possessed guns off the streets as a result of these clerks’ actions.
  • Feb. 28: Two men helped rescue a woman from a would-be kidnapper in Natchitoches Parish, Louisiana, after seeing her struggle to escape on the side of the road. After the two men stopped their car, one of them pulled out his handgun, prompting the suspect to flee. He was later apprehended and confessed to kidnapping the woman.
These individuals were all law-abiding citizens whose lives and livelihoods depended upon their ability to exercise their natural right of self-defense. Without a robustly protected right to keep and bear arms, the Americans in the cases above would have been left to the mercy of criminals who don’t much care for the rights of others.

Despite this reality, gun control activists and lawmakers have spent the last month pushing legislation that would severely hamper the ability of law-abiding Americans to defend themselves and others.

They have proposed effectively stripping young adults of their Second Amendment rights by raising the legal age for firearm purchases. Apparently, while law-abiding 18- to 20-year-olds are mature enough to vote, serve on juries, and be drafted into the military, they can’t be trusted to legally purchase a handgun with which to defend themselves and their families.

The bill for universal background checks, which recently passed through the House of Representatives, would compound this problem by depriving young adults of the ability to receive firearms via private transfers.

Gun control advocates have introduced bills that would limit magazine capacity for privately-owned firearms and that would prohibit future civilian purchases of semi-automatic rifles that serve as some of the most effective guns for home defense.

The irony is that, while civilians would be stripped of the right to immediately defend their lives and property with these guns, the law enforcement officers who respond—perhaps too late—to calls for help overwhelmingly choose those same firearms precisely because they are the most effective.

All of these proposals would significantly burden the exercise of a constitutional right that, as the data from February shows, is commonly used by average Americans to enforce their inalienable rights to life, liberty, and property.

We don’t make law-abiding citizens safer by disarming them or making them less capable of fighting back against criminals. We only make them easier targets.
 
Gun ownership surveys routinely find that about 1 in 3 American adults personally own firearms, meaning that tens of millions of law-abiding citizens regularly choose to exercise their Second Amendment rights.

Recent surveys indicate that 60 percent of these gun owners possess firearms primarily to protect themselves and others from crime.

These concerns are not misguided. A 2013 report from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention authorized by the Obama administration examined comprehensive studies of defensive gun use. It concluded that Americans use their firearms in defense of themselves or others between 500,000 and 3 million times every year.

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The report also noted that studies “have found consistently lower injury rates among gun-using crime victims compared with victims who used other self-protective strategies.”

The month of January was replete with highly publicized examples of these defensive uses of guns:

  • Jan. 1: Just hours into the new year, a Beaumont, Texas, homeowner was alerted to the presence of danger by a tripped burglar alarm. He shot and wounded the attempted burglar, then called police for assistance.
  • Jan. 2: The security officer of a grocery store in Loomis, California, confronted a couple suspected of shoplifting. When one of them pulled a knife and tried to stab the security guard, a good Samaritan with a concealed weapons permit drew his firearm, stopped the confrontation, and held the couple at the scene until law enforcement arrived.
  • Jan. 7: A private security officer in Huntsville, Alabama, prevented a potential mass shooting by shooting a nightclub patron who—angry at having been removed from the club—returned while firing a semi-automatic rifle.
  • Jan. 8: A 68-year-old man in Corpus Christi, Texas, called police after shooting a would-be burglar who attempted to enter his home through a second-story balcony.
  • Jan. 8: A Chicago woman with a concealed carry permit shot and killed a man who attempted to rob her at a bus stop after the man displayed a weapon. A surveillance camera at a nearby pharmacy captured the incident, and the owner of the pharmacy told reporters that this type of violence happens “all over” Chicago. Here, however, the intended victim could defend herself. “I’m 100 percent with her,” the pharmacist said. “I think this is one of the best ways to teach people you can’t just come up and take things.”
  • Jan. 9: An Arizona man awoke to the sound of four intruders breaking into his home. He flicked his lights on and off several times to warn the intruders that someone was home, hoping this would cause them to flee. But the intruders proceeded to smash windows and enter through the back door. The homeowner opened fire, hitting all four intruders and killing one.
  • Jan. 10: A Florida resident held an intruder at gunpoint until law enforcement could arrive. The man had broken into the garage and was in the process of filling his bag with the homeowner’s firearms and ammunition.
  • Jan. 13: A 90-year-old Pennsylvania man refused to open his door at 3 a.m. when a much younger man repeatedly pounded on it, demanding a cigarette. When the younger man decided to break in, the homeowner shot him in the leg with a revolver before calling police.
  • Jan. 15: An 18-year-old burglar crawled through the doggie door of a residence near North Pole, Alaska, and charged at the homeowner. The teen fled when the homeowner fired a warning shot.
  • Jan. 17: A disruptive customer shot and killed an IHOP employee in Huntsville, Alabama. When the customer began firing on others in the restaurant, another employee pulled out his own handgun and likely saved many lives.
  • Jan. 20: A Houston homeowner found himself outgunned and outnumbered during an armed home invasion, but managed to use his own firearm to kill three of his attackers and wound the fourth.
  • Jan. 23: Police responded to a 9-1-1 call from St. Louis, Missouri, resident who used his firearm to protect the other people in his home from three armed men attempting to force their way inside. One intruder was shot and killed on the scene while the other two fled.
  • Jan. 28: A woman arrived at her Campobello, South Carolina, home to find it being burglarized for the second time in just a few weeks. She shot one of the three intruders, while the other two fled the scene and were later arrested by law enforcement
  • Jan. 29: A customer inside a Family Dollar store in Dekalb County, Georgia, shot and killed an armed robber who had pulled a gun on two employees. Several other customers were also in the store at the time.
On any given day, law-abiding citizens answer their front doors, eat at restaurants, go grocery shopping, ride public transportation, and, more often than all of these, go to bed in their own homes.

They have the natural right of self-defense in all these scenarios. But without the necessary tools for enforcement, the unalienable rights to life, liberty, and property are little more than words.

The exercise of Second Amendment rights in defense of self or others is not a rare or extraordinary event, but a daily occurrence in the lives of ordinary Americans doing ordinary things.

Just look at January.
 
Here are just a few of these “no chance in a lifetime” cases, based on police accounts:

March 2, Los Lunas, New Mexico. A homeowner, responding to knocking at his door, was confronted by two individuals, one holding a knife and the other a baseball bat. They forced their way in and demanded money. The homeowner was able to retrieve his firearm, then shot and wounded both intruders, who collapsed outside and were arrested.

March 3, Cleveland. Two armed men wearing hoodies to conceal their faces entered a deli. One men tried to force his way behind the counter while the other yelled at the owner to open the cash register. The owner pulled out his own firearm and shot at the men, sending them running. The deli was open for business the next day, with the owner telling local media: “I have been here for 40 years, and I’m not going anywhere.”

March 7, Caro, Michigan. A man in violation of probation was trying to break into a car when he was stopped by the car’s armed owner. The would-be thief—already convicted of third-degree home invasion in 2016—was arraigned on 20 different counts, including attempted murder.

March 10, Chicago. A woman shot a man in self-defense after he began physically assaulting her, breaking her hand and covering her body in cuts and bruises.

March 11, Grants Pass, Oregon. A man forced his way into his ex-girlfriend’s home and cornered her in the bedroom with her son. The woman, who had called 911 before to report the man for entering her home and threatening her, fired her gun at him in fear for her life and that of her son. The man, hospitalized with non-life-threatening injuries, was charged with assault and menacing.

March 12, Harris County, Texas. Four masked men were in the process of robbing a physical therapy office when an employee with a concealed carry license drew his gun and fired at them, wounding one. The three others fled. One female patient was injured by the robbers, but the situation could have been much worse.

March 13, Germantown, Tennessee. A customer at an auto parts store got into an argument with a clerk and left only after discovering the clerk had a gun on his person. Later that afternoon, the clerk saw the customer returning to the store armed with a shotgun. Fearing for his safety and that of others inside the store, the clerk fired at the man through the store window, striking him in the chest.charged with aggravated assault and unlawful possession of a firearm.

March 14, Philadelphia.As Elvis Nuñez was closing his store, a masked man entered and pointed a gun at him. Nuñez complied with the man’s demands to open the cash register, but the robber fired a round at him anyway. He missed, and Nuñez was able to draw his own handgun from a hip holster. After an exchange of gunfire, the man ran wounded from the store.

March 18, Hoke County, North Carolina. Allen Thomas Jr. used his 12-gauge shotgun to scare away several people who unlawfully entered the townhouse he rents. Thomas is running for lieutenant governor of the state.

March 22, Fillmore, Utah. A homeowner awoke to loud yelling outside his front door. He grabbed his firearm and opened the door, where an ax-wielding man under the influence of drugs confronted him. Seeing that the homeowner was armed, the intruder returned to his car and drove away. When he was arrested later, law enforcement officers said they found five knives, two hatchets, and a can of pepper spray in his car.

March 26, Indianapolis. An armed intruder wearing a tactical vest with the word “police” emblazoned on it tried to confine a homeowner and his family to one room. The homeowner pulled his own firearm and shot the intruder, who fled the house. He later was arrested and charged with false imprisonment and impersonating a public servant.

March 28, Miami. When a woman he knew knocked on his door at 2 a.m., Pherrick Thomas thought it was safe to answer. Thomas was instead confronted by a man he had never met before who, armed with a rifle, attempted to force his way inside the home Thomas shared with his grandmother and great-grandmother. During a scuffle with the intruder, Thomas’ grandmother hit the man with a brick, giving Thomas time to take the man’s rifle and shoot him with it. A police officer responded to the gunfire and arrested the man and woman, who now face armed robbery charges. Thomas told reporters that seeing the intruder hit his grandmother gave him the strength to shoot: “I felt like if I was to die right there, they would kill my grandmother and great-grandmother, Lord forbid—God forbid.”

Most lawful gun owners pray that they never will be in a situation where they have to point a firearm at another human being, much less pull the trigger. But as these police reports show, those moments do occur, and it is better to be prepared than to be defenseless against those who care nothing for the rights of others.

The “good guy with a gun” does indeed exist, whether that good guy be law enforcement officers or armed civilians who exercise their natural right of self-defense when law enforcement can’t be there quick enough to intervene.

And we fully intend to keep giving those good guys with guns the recognition they deserve.
There are 330 Million people in the United States. You might find some examples here and there within 330 Million people.

I see you've shown 15 such examples in January. Good job.
 
There are 330 Million people in the United States. You might find some examples here and there within 330 Million people.

I see you've shown 15 such examples in January. Good job.

There are nearly 3,000,000 examples every year of good guys/gals saving the lives of multiple Americans by using a gun. There is no way to ascertain how many future victims were saved by the apprehension/death of the perps, but it's likely in the tens of millions at least.

In comparison to the few hundred lives saved by law enforcement every year, and the dozens of innocent Americans murdered or "accidentally killed" by law enforcement every year, it's clear who should have guns and who shouldn't.

Your fake news deliberately does not report them, nor is there time or space to post them here.

Keep displaying your ignorance with these constant troll posts though, as it appears you have no other purpose in life.
 
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