Goran Dragic?

[Chuck Taylor]

I'm starting to think we'd be fools to not go after him this summer. He's a free agent and shouldn't command crazy money. Plus he'd probably be very interested in a situation like ours - a decent team in which he gets to start & play big minutes. The kid seems to always get stuck behind a stud PG (Nash, Lowry) but shines when he gets the chance. In 11 starts this year, he's averaging 16.6 pts, 9.5 ast, 2.0 3pt and 1.8 steals. And he's only 25!

Am I missing something here? Does he play the worst defense in the league or something?

 

[LameR]

He's gonna get paaaaaaid, but it'd be great to get him!

 

[Nikolokolus]

There's going to be a supply and demand problem this summer between too many teams that need a competent point and not enough free agents to fill the void, so Dragic will almost definitely be overpaid but I like him well enough. He's kind of a score first guy but he sees the floor pretty well and he's got good size. I'd offer him 8 million a year for four years.

 

[BoomChakaLaka]

+1 on this.

 

[Sheldon Shape]

Was about to make a post on him today too. I think he's definitely someone we should look at, but with Rondo, D. Williams, and Kendall Marshall all being possibilities, does Goran beat any of them? Is he a plan D? Or E?

 

[Chuck Taylor]

I'm all for offering Dwill the max, or trying to trade for Rondo. But Dragic is much more realistic. I think Marshall would be an interesting guy to look at in the draft, but I doubt he's ready to start. We could always do both Dragic and Marshall.

 

[magnifier661]

I think he's gonna be expensive. I'm talking 11-12 mil per. If you guys are fine with that, then we could get him.

 

[JfizzleBlazer]

Who in the hell wants to offer Dragic 8-12 million per year? That is ridiculous money for him and I would be pissed if we offered him anything near either of those amounts. 4-5 million per year sure, but 8-12 million is overpaying. While we are at it why don't we resign Batum for the 10 million per year he wants and continue in mediocrity for the next 4-5 years.

 

[jaspitzer]

I hope he's on the front office's radar. I'd love to pick him up

 

[MickZagger]

Dragic's a baller. I think he's much more attainable than the other names that are thrown out there. Lets make a run for him!

 

[Nikolokolus]

Who in the hell wants to offer Dragic 8-12 million per year? That is ridiculous money for him and I would be pissed if we offered him anything near either of those amounts. 4-5 million per year sure, but 8-12 million is overpaying. While we are at it why don't we resign Batum for the 10 million per year he wants and continue in mediocrity for the next 4-5 years.

Take a look at the going rate for good veteran point guards ... you really think Steve Blake money is going to get anything done?

 

[STOMP]

Who in the hell wants to offer Dragic 8-12 million per year?

every poster who has waded in besides you seems to like him quite a bit. Add me to the list.

good size, athletic, solid jumper, pass first and he'll be 26 next season...

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STOMP

 

[Pinwheel1]

I like Goran a lot, but I would be shocked if he got 10 mil a year. (8-9 maybe)

 

[JfizzleBlazer]

every poster who has waded in besides you seems to like him quite a bit. Add me to the list.



STOMP

When did I ever say I didn't like him? I do like Dragic. But overpaying role players is laughable.

 

[JfizzleBlazer]

Take a look at the going rate for good veteran point guards ... you really think Steve Blake money is going to get anything done?

If it doesn't then he can move along. Tying up $8 million a year in Dragic in this CBA is laughable. I'm sure you could get Jeremy Lin (who I can't stand), Ramon Sessions, or even George Hill for less than $8 million a year.

 

[JfizzleBlazer]

For the record, I would give Dragic $4-6 million per year at most.

 

[Nikolokolus]

For the record, I would give Dragic $4-6 million per year at most.

That aint enough.

 

[JfizzleBlazer]

That aint enough.

Please explain to me how he is worth more than that? Should we just throw money around to random potential guys and hope one turns into a good player? Does he really deserve more than say, we paid Andre Miller a few years ago? Cause thats laughable.

 

[Nikolokolus]

Please explain to me how he is worth more than that? Should we just throw money around to random potential guys and hope one turns into a good player? Does he really deserve more than say, we paid Andre Miller a few years ago? Cause thats laughable.

If Miller hadn't been 34 when we gave him a contract he never would have signed for as little as he did ... and Dragic is better than you give him credit for.

 

[STOMP]

When did I ever say I didn't like him? I do like Dragic. But overpaying role players is laughable.

In his 9 starts since Lowry went out, Goran is averaging 37.4 min, 17.0 pts on 51% from the field, making 2.1 3's a game at a 46% clip, 9.6 Assists offset by 3.6 TO's and 1.9 steals. Average that all year and he probably makes an All NBA Team. How long has it been since any Blazer starting PG has averaged those sorts of numbers over 9 games? I'm thinking back to TP. I thought GD looked like a real nice prospect in Phoenix and am not surprised at all that he's crushing in his first real shot... picked him up on the fantasy team right after I heard about Lowry being out

it's a ways out to debate the options of what to do with the cap space and such, but throwing out my best guess today is that Goran should be a main target on the radar. They need someone who can create off the dribble and Dragic can for himself and others. 8M per sounds pretty sweet really

STOMP

 

[jlprk]

Why don't we do it the cheap way? Just get a coach who can manufacture good guards out of mediocre ones. You know, like when Phoenix gave up on Dragic and sent him to Houston coaches Adelman and McHale.

 

[jaspitzer]

I didn't watch Dragic a lot when he was in Phoenix, but of the 7 - 10 times I did see, I was impressed. I think he was good before he got to Houston.

 

[Boise Blazer]

Obviously the key with Dragic is can sustain that level of play? Because if he can then I cant imagine how he isnt worth a great payday. Im sure there would be a drop over the course of a full season. There are very few if any "complete" PG's in the league so you have to pick which stats are the best suited and most important for your team. The quickness, the outside shooting and assist ability would be great for this team but how is his defense (I'd settle for average at this point after watching you know who) and maybe even more importantly how are his entry pass skills and ability to run the team? Can he get LMA and Batum the ball in the right places? One thing we do know is that he can run an uptempo style. Another things about him is that he clutch. Has proven that he can hit the big shot a few times. We need that.

How are his stats in relation to his current team's tempo, pace, coach and playing style?

Which brings up another point, with all this said he would be an absolute waste with the wrong coach.

I like his game and always have. I think he is a great back plan and unfortunately he is going to be some other teams first option. This is one of those "gamble" that some posters on here feel like a team has to take to get to the next level. This is also one of those situations that make me REALLY REALLY hope that we have a legit shot at D-Will or Rondo cuz if we dont we are going to be way behind in the game for good options like Dragic.

PS I like that he is a lefty. Every advantage helps.

 

[Boise Blazer]

For those interested here are the PG's that we are "looking at" with "You Know Who" thrown in for comparison.

http://bkref.com/tiny/NVKRm

I think looking at the PER 36 Min makes it kind of interesting.

 

[Nikolokolus]

Clearly option 1 is for LaMarcus to try and convince Deron to come here ... which feels like a fool's errand, but hey it's worth a shot. Dragic would be a solid plan B.

 

[Chuck Taylor]

Dragic is still KILLING it! Jason Quick tweeted this after Dragic went off for 26 and 11 last night:

Take note of Houston's win tonight, Blazers fans. One of those Rockets is on the team's off season radar

https://twitter.com/#!/jwquick

Great to hear that Dragic is actually on the team's radar, and that we're not the only one's who think he'd be a good fit.
I think DWill is option #1, but then go hard for Dragic as a solid #2. Dollar for dollar, he might end up being just as good of a deal.

 

[BlazerCaravan]

For those interested here are the PG's that we are "looking at" with "You Know Who" thrown in for comparison.

http://bkref.com/tiny/NVKRm

I think looking at the PER 36 Min makes it kind of interesting.

http://bkref.com/tiny/vsD2I

Here's the same, for this season only. I had no idea good point guards turned the ball over more than Ray Ray.

 

[Natebishop3]

I just remember Dragic killing us against Phoenix. I think he's a very solid player.

 

[Chuck Taylor]

http://bkref.com/tiny/vsD2I

Here's the same, for this season only. I had no idea good point guards turned the ball over more than Ray Ray.

I think it depends on the system too. McMillan hated turnovers, played cautious, and didn't run as much as a lot of teams. A guy like Nash, for example, tries a lot of "high risk, high reward" type passes. He's really good at them - and they often end in easy buckets - but those that don't get through are turnovers.

Felton just dribbles the ball off his foot.