Grade The Pick: Anfernee Simons (24th Overall)

[jlprk]

BS. Pitino recruited the kid for his blue chip college program. Yeah, I'm sure he knew nothing about the kid. Just stop.

Why do you think that Pitino's knowledge about Simons is superior to that of NBA scouts? (That's the concept to which I'm responding...someone said no way does Pitino feel any special loyalty to the kid for ditching Louisville.) Just now, I gave reasons for why his evaluation is no better, in fact, outdated, because they saw him at IMG and he didn't. You offered no reasons in rebuttal for why Pitino's opinion should be prioritized.

 

[jlprk]

not at all...but he recruited the kid and knew more about him than most people....if a coach is paid big bucks to find talent...they usually learn how to do that...not sure it would be "special" knowledge but they don't recruit in a vacuum.

So you can prove that Pitino feels no loyalty to the kid for showing loyalty to Pitino?

 

[theprunetang]

Why do you think that Pitino's knowledge about Simons is superior to that of NBA scouts? (That's the concept to which I'm responding...someone said no way does Pitino feel any special loyalty to the kid for ditching Louisville.) Just now, I gave reasons for why his evaluation is no better, in fact, outdated, because they saw him at IMG and he didn't. You offered no reasons in rebuttal for why Pitino's opinion should be prioritized.

I never said Pitino's knowledge of Simons is superior to an NBA scout's. I was battling your false narrative of Pitino lacking knowledge about his own recruit and only praising Simons as a favor for loyalty. It's a fun story that you have concocted, however, it is just that: a story.

 

[riverman]

You offered no reasons in rebuttal for why Pitino's opinion should be prioritized.

I never said anything about prioritized...I said, valued....these guys watch film...talk to those same NBA scouts etc.....who knows..maybe he did nothing...just signed a paper without giving a shit to bring the kid to Louisville...I've no reason to discount the kid's own hard earned reputation for being a top prospect right out of hs…..that was common not that long ago …difference here is that I think Olshey is well informed and does study these kids games...Lillard says he's never seen another GM around the gym and team like Olshey...he likes it...I think he's pretty good at it...

 

[jlprk]

I never said Pitino's knowledge of Simons is superior to an NBA scout's. I was battling your false narrative of Pitino lacking knowledge about his own recruit and only praising Simons as a favor for loyalty. It's a fun story that you have concocted, however, it is just that: a story.

Somebody offered Pitino's evaluation of Simons being superstar-like, and I downgraded that evaluation as being biased because of Simons being his one Ace in his war with Louisville, and you said BS, Pitino's evaluation isn't biased. Yes it is.

 

[jlprk]

Lillard says he's never seen another GM around the gym and team like Olshey...he likes it...

More proof that Olshey isn't hard at work in his office, wheeling & dealing on the phone. How many GMs does Lillard have experience with?

 

[riverman]

How many GMs does Lillard have experience with?

If I have to take these tests, please make them multiple choice...I promise you Donald Sterling never watched a team practice in his career.

 

[riverman]

wheeling & dealing on the phone

those phones are portable now...they can carry them around

 

[BLAZINGGIANTS]

If I have to take these tests, please make them multiple choice...I promise you Donald Sterling never watched a team practice in his career.

You answered a question about Dame’s experience with GM’s. I bet Dame has a ton of experience with other NBA GM’s. All in how you take that question.

 

[jlprk]

those phones are portable now...they can carry them around

No calls in 3 years except one from Denver offering Nurkic...plus one call praising Anfernee "Pitino's Revenge" Simons...it's the weak battery's fault...

 

[SIeepwalker]

I just had a dream where Simons was starting day 1 and scoring at will, so clearly it's a good pick

 

[theprunetang]

I just had a dream where Simons was starting day 1 and scoring at will, so clearly it's a good pick

Be careful. I once had a dream where Sergei Monia was scoring at will against the Spurs in the Western Conference Finals. Dreams have a way of kicking you in the balls later.

 

[illmatic99]

Be careful. I once had a dream where Sergei Monia was scoring at will against the Spurs in the Western Conference Finals. Dreams have a way of kicking you in the balls later.

Shoutout for the throwback. Man, I thought John Nash absolutely killed that draft. The Monia/Khryapa duo I expected to be unstoppable with Bassy running the show.

 

[jlprk]

Khryapa played like a hero for us! Just because his name sounds like crap, people now put him down. Then Juwan Howard saved our ass for a season, and management rewarded him by ditching him, the same as Khryapa. No gratitude in both cases.

 

[CupWizier]

Khryapa played like a hero for us! Just because his name sounds like crap, people now put him down. Then Juwan Howard saved our ass for a season, and management rewarded him by ditching him, the same as Khryapa. No gratitude in both cases.

Kryhapa was just ok and was dealt to Chicago in the Aldridge trade. As for Petino's assessment, the guy has been around the college game a lot longer than you, has recruited some top talent and I would take his evaluation way over your assessment of any player as reading many of your posts, your evaluation skills are poor at best.

 

[Boob-No-More]

This is getting ridiculous

Getting???

BNM

 

[dviss1]

Now we even get attacked for "liking" posts? And why can't people just let jlprk have his fun. I want him to keep posting and I know some have stopped posting because there seems to be so much backlash around here.

Really? Stop whining...

 

[dviss1]

So you can prove that Pitino feels no loyalty to the kid for showing loyalty to Pitino?

How did he show Pitino loyalty when he rescinded his commitment after the allegations?

 

[jlprk]

Kryhapa was just ok and was dealt to Chicago in the Aldridge trade. As for Petino's assessment, the guy has been around the college game a lot longer than you, has recruited some top talent and I would take his evaluation way over your assessment

All of that is true. None is relevant. (to whether his over-praise is biased because of the Louisville events.)

How did he show Pitino loyalty when he rescinded his commitment after the allegations?

By definition. That's like asking, how can X be equal to X.

I have heard no alternative history for why Simons didn't go to Louisville.

 

[dviss1]

By definition. That's like asking, how can X be equal to X.

I have heard no alternative history for why Simons didn't go to Louisville.

The question is rhetorical. He didn't show Pitino loyalty. He took care of himself when Pitino went down in flames.

 

[dviss1]

Now we even get attacked for "liking" posts? And why can't people just let jlprk have his fun. I want him to keep posting and I know some have stopped posting because there seems to be so much backlash around here.

Newsflash:

If you have an opinion in the forum, it can and will be challenged, especially if it's a bullshit one.

 

[Reep]

I would SPECULATE that Pitino liked the kid, or wouldn't have recruited him. What he said at draft time could be real or it could be just Pitino talking up a former recruit, because he wants future recruits to see him as a guy that helps them get drafted. At the end of next season we will know more about Simons. Right now we KNOW nothing.

 

[Pinwheel1]

I would SPECULATE that Pitino liked the kid, or wouldn't have recruited him. What he said at draft time could be real or it could be just Pitino talking up a former recruit, because he wants future recruits to see him as a guy that helps them get drafted. At the end of next season we will know more about Simons. Right now we KNOW nothing.

If Pitino coached him I would not give any validity to him phrasing Simons. But as of right now he is out of coaching and I don't think he has much to gain by talking him up. He gets zero credit for his success. If I am Pitino I get out of coaching and into a front office of an NBA team. Good solid evaluations would only help.

 

[UKRAINEFAN]

Newsflash:

If you have an opinion in the forum, it can and will be challenged, especially if it's a bullshit one.

I hope you can find a more civil way to challenge people. I should say "to challenge people's opinions" as I don't think the purpose of this board is to challenge people.

 

[dviss1]

I hope you can find a more civil way to challenge people. I should say "to challenge people's opinions" as I don't think the purpose of this board is to challenge people.

Like he's civil about it??? You're kidding...

It's like you're backing Sarah Sanders after getting kicked out of that restaurant. Don't ask me to be civil to the guy that just broke forum rules. I didn't break any forum rules. Censor yourself.

Fuck Sarah Sanders...

#beciviltosarahafterigrabthispussy

 

[UKRAINEFAN]

Like he's civil about it??? You're kidding...

It's like you're backing Sarah Sanders after getting kicked out of that restaurant. Don't ask me to be civil to the guy that just broke forum rules. I didn't break any forum rules. Censor yourself.

Fuck Sarah Sanders...

#beciviltosarahafterigrabthispussy

You may not break the forum rules, but your posts are often rude, uncivil and arrogant.

 

[dviss1]

I hope you can find a more civil way to challenge people. I should say "to challenge people's opinions" as I don't think the purpose of this board is to challenge people.

Your posts are extra whiny right now. Like nails on a chalkboard.

 

[dviss1]

You may not break the forum rules, but your posts are often rude, uncivil and arrogant.

They made a special emoji just for me to reply to this:



You're defending literally one of the most arrogant posters in here and you think IGAF about what you think of mine?

 

[PtldPlatypus]

They made a special emoji just for me to reply to this:



You're defending literally one of the most arrogant posters in here and you think IGAF about what you think of mine?

Are you suggesting that there are posters here who aren't arrogant?

 

[dviss1]

Are you suggesting that there are posters here who aren't arrogant?

How? By me saying it's my special emoji?