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Grant isn’t a flashy name in the league. Not sure the Blazers will see their respect or national exposure go through the roof because of the trade. But it is great low key improvement.

Andre Drummond is a FA and you’ve got to wonder what his value will be like after the BKN mess.

Dame
Simons
OG
Grant
Drummond

That would be a very strong defensive and offensive starting 5.
 
PDXFonz said:
Grant isn’t a flashy name in the league. Not sure the Blazers will see their respect or national exposure go through the roof because of the trade. But it is great low key improvement.

Andre Drummond is a FA and you’ve got to wonder what his value will be like after the BKN mess.

Dame
Simons
OG
Grant
Drummond

That would be a very strong defensive and offensive starting 5.
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lolz
 
WesleyMatthews said:
Can Grant improve his game on a better team as Wiggins did in Golden State?
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If he changes his role, sure. Him being the main guy probably was not beneficial to his overall reputation. Having Simons, Dame and even Nurk should make it easier for him to be open, etc
 
TBpup said:
Good fit. I'm just concerned about the amount of the new contract he wants.
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While everyone wants more then they settle for, I bet they previously broached the subject with his agent & are on the same page to be reupped before the start of the season. I'm more concerned about the years then dollars.

I was in the decided minority here advocating for JG. By the 3rd game or so heres expecting the board to turn and place irrational value on him like most of the rest of the roster.

STOMP
 
PDXFonz said:
I wanted us to draft Drummond. He’s been solid. You know what you are going to get from him, and you get it. Same draft class as Dame.
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My biggest issues with Drummond is that he struggles with switching onto smaller players & instead of embracing his limitations on offense and focusing on boards, picks and rolling to the hoop he still thinks he's a dominant post up player.

STOMP
 
Not only the $$$ Grant is going to want, in getting Jerami, we picked up a forward who averaged less rebounds per game last year.....than the guard we traded out that net the Blazers that pick.

CJ - 4.2
Grant - 4.1

Like Jerami....but at around $20M.
 
TBpup said:
Good fit. I'm just concerned about the amount of the new contract he wants.
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I'm not going to worry about money. Time for them to spend some dough and build a winner IMO. Maybe Jody is more of a fan than we think? Maybe she would love to see a trophy and a banner so she can say she got one for Paul? They cleared the repeater tax so why not?
 
TBpup said:
Not only the $$$ Grant is going to want, in getting Jerami, we picked up a forward who averaged less rebounds per game last year.....than the guard we traded out that net the Blazers that pick.

CJ - 4.2
Grant - 4.1

Like Jerami....but at around $20M.
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CJ wasn't around 20 million per year though. Nor was that guard able to play PF. And Grant may want 30 million, but he won't get 30 million.
 
TBpup said:
Not only the $$$ Grant is going to want, in getting Jerami, we picked up a forward who averaged less rebounds per game last year.....than the guard we traded out that net the Blazers that pick.

CJ - 4.2
Grant - 4.1

Like Jerami....but at around $20M.
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This is why i dont want to trade Hart or Little. Both plus rebounders
 
STOMP said:
While everyone wants more then they settle for, I bet they previously broached the subject with his agent & are on the same page to be reupped before the start of the season. I'm more concerned about the years than dollars.

STOMP
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I am torn on that. We often need a decent contract to include in a trade. A longer contract at a lower amount wouldn't be horrible IMO. Let's say you give him an additional 3 years at 20 million, he still will only be 31 in that 4th year. He would still be an asset if the salary was reasonable,
 
Pinwheel1 said:
I am torn on that. We often need a decent contract to include in a trade. A longer contract at a lower amount wouldn't be horrible IMO. Let's say you give him an additional 3 years at 20 million, he still will only be 31 in that 4th year. He would still be an asset if the salary was reasonable,
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Hello,
Four years from now and a new tv contract should make that a great contract asset, I would think?
 
Pinwheel1 said:
I am torn on that. We often need a decent contract to include in a trade. A longer contract at a lower amount wouldn't be horrible IMO. Let's say you give him an additional 3 years at 20 million, he still will only be 31 in that 4th year. He would still be an asset if the salary was reasonable,
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He's 28 today (born in March) and under contract, so in the 4th year of a potential new deal he'll be 33 to start that season. He's making 20M a year on his last deal, expect a raise. 3 years 70M with a team option year 4 seems ballpark to me

STOMP
 
STOMP said:
He's 28 today (born in March) and under contract, so in the 4th year of a potential new deal he'll be 33 to start that season. He's making 20M a year on his last deal, expect a raise. 3 years 70M with a team option year 4 seems ballpark to me

STOMP
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He would be 32, but I agree with everything else.
 
STOMP said:
He's 28 today (born in March) and under contract, so in the 4th year of a potential new deal he'll be 33 to start that season. He's making 20M a year on his last deal, expect a raise. 3 years 70M with a team option year 4 seems ballpark to me

STOMP
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I was counting next year (where he is under contract) and an additional 3-year extension.
So he will still be 28 for most of next season
29 the first year of his extension
30 in the 2nd
31 in the 3rd

4 years total as a Blazer
 
illmatic99 said:
Is it reasonable to think that Grant can be our Wiggins equivalent?
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Maybe less likely to happen than not; but I wouldn't call it unreasonable.

Probably unreasonable to think that Simons can play defense like Klay. Probably unreasonable to think Little becomes Draymond while staying healthy. So no, we won't be Warriors level contenders even if Grant booms.
 
WesleyMatthews said:
Maybe less likely to happen than not; but I wouldn't call it unreasonable.

Probably unreasonable to think that Simons can play defense like Klay. Probably unreasonable to think Little becomes Draymond while staying healthy. So no, we won't be Warriors level contenders even if Grant booms.
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i didn't say anything that you mentioned in your second paragraph.

Just comparing Grant to Wiggins.
 
Natebishop3 said:
He's terrible. That's why he has bounced around. He's completely awful.
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I think he's fine as a 10th man backup part time option at center so we don't have to put a SF there if Nurk is out.

But no, he shouldn't ever be slotted in as a starter of a team trying to win.
 
illmatic99 said:
i didn't say anything that you mentioned in your second paragraph.

Just comparing Grant to Wiggins.
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I didn't say you did.

My second paragraph was more of a statement in general, not an answer targeted to your question.
 
MickZagger said:
Ooof!

Maybe Simons can be better than Poole
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ya klay averaged almost 20 a game in the playoffs this year while shooting 39% from 3 on high volume while playing good defense. if hart has that kinda ceiling, we better not move him for anything less than an all star.
 
PDXFonz said:
I wanted us to draft Drummond. He’s been solid. You know what you are going to get from him, and you get it. Same draft class as Dame.
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He is one of the few players that was born too late. If he played in the 90s-00s, he would probably be a Hall of Famer. But the way the game has evolved with more perimeter focused offenses, he has been rendered obsolete. He has no lateral quickness and can't help contain guards on perimeter switches.

He's only 28 and hasn't had any serious injuries but he's already been on 5 teams. With each team, he just slowly plays himself out of the rotation.
 
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