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Charcoal Filtered said:
Atleast it is some news. Sounds like it is minor and have not been counting on seeing GO in a Blazer uniform. My guess is an S&T this coming offseason. More concerned about the ankle blood clotting.
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Teams never sign and trade guys who earn less than the MLE. Do you really think Oden is getting a big multi-year contract for more than the MLE?
 
Nikolokolus said:
Well if the stated purpose of the scope is to "clean out debris" then that's either cartilage or scar tissue. It doesn't sound like this is a fishing expedition to figure out an unknown problem.
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Jason Quick said they also could be doing an unknown surgery on the left knee, and/or a more invasive surgery on the right knee. The team doesn't announce the worst case surgical outcome beforehand. When Greg went in for his initial microfracture a few months after the draft the team initially said he was having a knee scope (just as they are saying now) but revealed afterwards they knew microfracture was a possibility prior.

The rhetoric isn't concrete clear right now on exactly what they are doing and why which lead me to believe there is a possibility of a more serious surgery being an option. Of course it depends on exactly what the doctor see's when Greg is on the table. You can't tell everything from an MRI taken way out in another state, having a camera inside the knee and the patient on site gives the surgeon the complete picture.
 
The kid is done. I don't know how you could require knee surgery when you haven't played in over two years, but he has to be the only player that needs continuous surgeries to repair damage done while rehabbing from knee surgeries.
 
If he were a horse we would have shot him years ago.
 
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Portland C Greg Oden undergoes successful arthroscopic surgery to remove debris from his right knee. He remains out indefinitely.
 
Draco said:
Jason Quick said they also could be doing an unknown surgery on the left knee, and/or a more invasive surgery on the right knee. The team doesn't announce the worst case surgical outcome beforehand. When Greg went in for his initial microfracture a few months after the draft the team initially said he was having a knee scope (just as they are saying now) but revealed afterwards they knew microfracture was a possibility prior.

The rhetoric isn't concrete clear right now on exactly what they are doing and why which lead me to believe there is a possibility of a more serious surgery being an option. Of course it depends on exactly what the doctor see's when Greg is on the table. You can't tell everything from an MRI taken way out in another state, having a camera inside the knee and the patient on site gives the surgeon the complete picture.
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Nothing would surprise me, but let's just react to what we do know.
 
God, I really fell terrible for the guy. What rotten hand to be dealt ... yes, he's got millions in the bank and he's been well compensated for his rehab, but sweet Jesus how many shots can one guy take?
 
He isn't even valuable as an expiring contract because of how small his deal ended up being. I just want him off the team. He's a dark cloud hanging over the franchise.
 
Man, there's a lot of unsupported bloviating being done on this topic, both on this board and by the media. If this really is just a case of cleaning the debris out of the joint, then players typically come back to play from that in a few weeks. There may be more to this than what's been described so far, but claiming that Greg is "done" because of this is ridiculous.
 
Natebishop3 said:
He isn't even valuable as an expiring contract because of how small his deal ended up being. I just want him off the team. He's a dark cloud hanging over the franchise.
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He isn't valuable as an expiring contract because players on a one year contract can't be traded at all.
 
Very unfortunate news. I can understand the frustration about Greg Oden as we see KD flourish...... that said, it's not as if Greg wants this to happen. He didn't ask to be injury prone. I can tell you from personal experience that he is a great person, very cool and down to earth guy. Couldn't of happened to a nicer young man.
 
e_blazer said:
Man, there's a lot of unsupported bloviating being done on this topic, both on this board and by the media. If this really is just a case of cleaning the debris out of the joint, then players typically come back to play from that in a few weeks. There may be more to this than what's been described so far, but claiming that Greg is "done" because of this is ridiculous.
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That would be a valid point if not for Oden's extensive knee(s) history. It's quite understandable, not ridiculous, in that context. How many times does he have to get injured during rehab for you to feel there's a pattern?
 
e_blazer said:
Man, there's a lot of unsupported bloviating being done on this topic, both on this board and by the media. If this really is just a case of cleaning the debris out of the joint, then players typically come back to play from that in a few weeks. There may be more to this than what's been described so far, but claiming that Greg is "done" because of this is ridiculous.
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If you really think Greg will come back and have a productive career, then I'd like to sell you some magic beans.
 
[video=youtube;Ep8ewVzvld4]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ep8ewVzvld4[/video]
 
Hm...so I wonder if the next team he plays for will be happy that they don't have to pay for these procedures.
 
HCP said:
Couldn't of happened to a nicer young man.
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usually that comment is reserved for good news, or bad news.

like, "jake won the lottery, and is set for life. couldn't have happened to a nicer guy"

or

"that ass clown jake got sent to jail and probably will be beaten to death within a week. couldn't have happened to a nicer guy"
 
e_blazer said:
Man, there's a lot of unsupported bloviating being done on this topic, both on this board and by the media. If this really is just a case of cleaning the debris out of the joint, then players typically come back to play from that in a few weeks. There may be more to this than what's been described so far, but claiming that Greg is "done" because of this is ridiculous.
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I think I can see peoples frustrations on this. But "typically" Greg hasn't come back from anything in a few weeks. Almost everything he's done has lead to something worse (and in two cases, season ending surgery).
 
Just meaning I would feel better about all the bashing the guy gets if he were a prick like Darius Miles..
 
handiman said:
That would be a valid point if not for Oden's extensive knee(s) history. It's quite understandable, not ridiculous, in that context. How many times does he have to get injured during rehab for you to feel there's a pattern?
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Look, I get the point about the number of surgeries that Greg's gone through. That said, has anybody heard a valid medical opinion that having clean out a bit of debris from a knee joint that's undergone microfracture surgery is a serious concern? Until somebody who knows what the hell they're talking about comes out and says something, all of the discussion here is about as significant as a fart in a hurricane.
 
julius said:
I think I can see peoples frustrations on this. But "typically" Greg hasn't come back from anything in a few weeks. Almost everything he's done has lead to something worse (and in two cases, season ending surgery).
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His other surgeries have been microfractures. They go in and drill holes into the end of the bones in order to promote development of material that fills in the holes in his cartilage. This is simply going in and flushing out the joint. A bit of a difference there, don't you think?
 
e_blazer said:
His other surgeries have been microfractures. They go in and drill holes into the end of the bones in order to promote development of material that fills in the holes in his cartilage. This is simply going in and flushing out the joint. A bit of a difference there, don't you think?
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You're missing a step or two here.

his first MF came after they went in for a simple arthroscopic surgery, and then found out he needed MF. And iirc, the second one started off the same way.

This might be the first "simple" procedure he's had done.
 
e_blazer said:
I don't fricking know what Greg's prognosis is, and neither do you.
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I don't need to know what the prognosis is. How many minutes has Greg played in the last 2.5 years? How many knee surgeries has he undergone in that time period? How old is Greg? The guy is a walking disaster. You're probably one of those people who argued and screamed that Brandon Roy's career wasn't over and that we didn't know the truth about his knees. Where is Brandon Roy right now?
 
e_blazer said:
I don't fricking know what Greg's prognosis is, and neither do you.
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We may not know the prognosis, but we have a diagnosis.

https://twitter.com/#!/blazersedge/status/165591487109791745

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Chad Buchanan says procedure today removed loose articular cartilage in Greg Oden's right knee.
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So who knows what this does to his rehab schedule for whatever other knee ligament problem he was having and whatever surgery he is yet to have on his other knee.
 
Can we just amputate him at the knees and have him play pg?
 
SlyPokerDog said:
Can we just amputate him at the knees and have him play pg?
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can't turn the ball over anymore, or shoot any worse, than our current starting PG.
 
SlyPokerDog said:
Can we just amputate him at the knees and have him play pg?
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[video=youtube;mhnvYmgRPv0]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mhnvYmgRPv0[/video]

You may be on to something, he knows how to run a fast break, something our guards have no clue how to do.
 
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