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3RA1N1AC said:
Yeah that's dennys whole thing. Now he wants them all to have guns too! Pimp juice!
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......umm...okay......

Well....there is a minority of criminals in our population. But we shouldn't deny rights to the rest of the population because of the criminal actions of a few.

Likewise, we shouldn't not arm teachers just because a small minority of them may or may not be pedophiles.
 
3RA1N1AC said:
Yeah that's dennys whole thing. Now he wants them all to have guns too! Pimp juice!
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A few are. It's really a crapshoot because they don't have "pedophile" tattooed on thier foreheads.

My "thing" is that firing the ones who get caught is ridiculously hard.
 
Would it be hard to fire a teacher who shoots a kid "in self defense"?
 
3RA1N1AC said:
A great predictor of if you are going to be a victim of gun violence is if there is a gun in the house or not.

Numbers don't lie.
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Which also don't take into consideration whether or not they are locked up and secured. Nor do those numbers take into consideration stability within individual families.

There's a guy on YouTube who does DemolitionRanch. He owns more guns than his local sheriff's office, and yet he has an amazing family and perfect stability.

I've had guns in my house since I was 21. I'm 33, and I'm still alive. I currently have 6.
 
Jade Falcon said:
Which also don't take into consideration whether or not they are locked up and secured.

I've had guns in my house since I was 21. I'm 33, and I'm still alive. I currently have 6.
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Oddly enough, every gun owner does not die from being shot. Hard to believe I know.
 
3RA1N1AC said:
Oddly enough, every gun owner does not die from being shot. Hard to believe I know.
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Not every gun owner has their life threatened by a gun either, so what's your point?

Check out this guy on YouTube through DemolitionRanch, then tell me he's more of a threat to himself or his family.
 
http://education.findlaw.com/teachers-rights/teachers-rights-tenure-and-dismissal.html

Most states protect teachers in public schools from arbitrary dismissal through tenure statutes. Under these tenure statutes, once a teacher has attained tenure, his or her contract renews automatically each year. School districts may dismiss tenured teachers only by a showing of cause, after following such procedural requirements as providing notice to the teacher, specifying the charges against the teacher, and providing the teacher with a meaningful hearing. Most tenure statutes require teachers to remain employed during a probationary period for a certain number of years. Once this probationary period has ended, teachers in some states will earn tenure automatically. In other states, the local school board must take some action to grant tenure to the teacher, often at the conclusion of a review of the teacher's performance. Tenure also provides some protection for teachers against demotion, salary reductions, and other discipline. However, tenure does not guarantee that a teacher may retain a particular position, such as a coaching position, nor does it provide indefinite employment.
 
My point is that a great predictor for whether or not you are a victim of gun violence is whether or not there is a gun in the house.
 
3RA1N1AC said:
A great predictor of if you are going to be a victim of gun violence is if there is a gun in the house or not.

Numbers don't lie.
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Really? What if you have 10? vs none? Grunch the numbers.
 
Jade Falcon said:
Not every gun owner has their life threatened by a gun either, so what's your point?

Check out this guy on YouTube through DemolitionRanch, then tell me he's more of a threat to himself or his family.
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What is more likely:

You use your gun against someone trying to kill you.

Or

Your gun gets used to blow your own brains out.
 
3RA1N1AC said:
My point is that a great predictor for whether or not you are a victim of gun violence is whether or not there is a gun in the house.
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By that logic, then it's also a great predictor if I'm the dead victim of a violent criminal, rather than alive and safe.

MarAzul said:
Really? What if you have 10? vs none? Grunch the numbers.
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I know a guy, my buddy Ken, who's a doctor and at one time had about 70 guns.

Nicest guy in the world. But apparently, according to 3R here, he's a dropped teacup away from going on a rampage.

3RA1N1AC said:
What is more likely:

You use your gun against someone trying to kill you.

Or

Your gun gets used to blow your own brains out.
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That I use my gun to protect myself.

But that's speaking for MYSELF. Your supposed statistics do not take each individual gun owner's life into account. It's taken from crime statistics in the inner cities and anti-gun organizations who cherry pick government statistics to fill their agenda.
 
i know a guy that has guns, and he has never killed anyone.

And other irrelevant anecdotes.
 
3RA1N1AC said:
i know a guy that has guns, and he has never killed anyone.

And other irrelevant anecdotes.
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So is your opinion that a gun makes me more likely to kill myself.

I have tons of electrical equipment in my apartment. But if I go to an office building in down town Portland, am I more likely to be electrocuted there than my apartment? There's a lot more electrical equipment in an office building than anywhere in my apartment complex.
 
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