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3RA1N1AC said:
If I have a bomb in my house, am I more or less likely to be blown up by a bomb?
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That depends on a lot of things. Simply having the bomb is no absolution that you'll die by it.

-Is it stored in a safe place?
-How do you handle it?
-What are the properties that will make it detonate?
-Are there strangers with access to it?
-Are there children with access to it?
 
oldfisherman said:
I have a friend that is killing himself right now, with booze.
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Having booze in his house plays zero part in that.
Jade Falcon said:
That depends on a lot of things. Simply having the bomb is no absolution that you'll die by it.

-Is it stored in a safe place?
-How do you handle it?
-What are the properties that will make it detonate?
-Are there strangers with access to it?
-Are there children with access to it?
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Who's talking absolutions? I mean shit.

Just more, or less likely? No qualifiers.
 
Jade Falcon said:
my buddy Ken, who's a doctor and at one time had about 70 guns.

Nicest guy in the world. But apparently, according to 3R here, he's a dropped teacup away from going on a rampage.
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I didn't tell him how many I might have. I just pulled 10 out of the aether.
 
Denny Crane said:
http://education.findlaw.com/teachers-rights/teachers-rights-tenure-and-dismissal.html

Most states protect teachers in public schools from arbitrary dismissal through tenure statutes. Under these tenure statutes, once a teacher has attained tenure, his or her contract renews automatically each year. School districts may dismiss tenured teachers only by a showing of cause, after following such procedural requirements as providing notice to the teacher, specifying the charges against the teacher, and providing the teacher with a meaningful hearing. Most tenure statutes require teachers to remain employed during a probationary period for a certain number of years. Once this probationary period has ended, teachers in some states will earn tenure automatically. In other states, the local school board must take some action to grant tenure to the teacher, often at the conclusion of a review of the teacher's performance. Tenure also provides some protection for teachers against demotion, salary reductions, and other discipline. However, tenure does not guarantee that a teacher may retain a particular position, such as a coaching position, nor does it provide indefinite employment.
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Forces pushing and pulling toward a private education system. The sooner the better.
 
Speaking of guns and safes.
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My christmas present to myself. Being guarded by my dog. Her name is slygunguarddog
 
3RA1N1AC,
Having booze in his house plays zero part in that.
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You missed my point.
There are many methods people use to kill themselves, not just with a gun or booze. Overdosing on pain killer pills is another common one.

But I have never heard of pain killer pills stopping someone that is breaking into a house to rape the wife and daughters. But a gun has.
 
3RA1N1AC said:
Having booze in his house plays zero part in that.


Who's talking absolutions? I mean shit.

Just more, or less likely? No qualifiers.
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Your argument is trying to demonize an object based on something that MIGHT happen.

And if that's NOT your purpose, then you need to understand that that is a classic arguing point from anti-gun-minded folks, and they've been trying this nonsense for years.

I'm more likely to get into a car accident when I drive a car. It doesn't mean we shouldn't have cars, or that I shouldn't know how to drive. Nor does it mean that I'm more at risk for having a car accident JUST for simply owning a car.

How you act and peform with a tool (car, gun, hammer, etc) determines if your life is more at danger for having it; not by simply having the tool.
 
oldfisherman said:
You missed my point.
There are many methods people use to kill themselves, not just with a gun or booze. Overdosing on pain killer pills is another common one.

But I have never heard of pain killer pills stopping someone that is breaking into a house to rape the wife and daughters. But a gun has.
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I leave a roofied drink at every window for home intruders.
 
Jade Falcon said:
Your argument is trying to demonize an object based on something that MIGHT happen.

And if that's NOT your purpose, then you need to understand that that is a classic arguing point from anti-gun-minded folks, and they've been trying this nonsense for years.

I'm more likely to get into a car accident when I drive a car. It doesn't mean we shouldn't have cars, or that I shouldn't know how to drive. Nor does it mean that I'm more at risk for having a car accident JUST for simply owning a car.

How you act and peform with a tool (car, gun, hammer, etc) determines if your life is more at danger for having it; not by simply having the tool.
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You make a good point





Ban asians from owning cars.
 
So your answer is more likely? Or less? I couldn't tell.
 
3RA1N1AC said:
So your answer is more likely? Or less? I couldn't tell.
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Less likely. A bomb expert will have the expertise not to blow himself up. Mean while someone without a bomb might drop a mentos in a coke bottle and blow up the living room out of ignorance
 
oldfisherman said:
You missed my point.
There are many methods people use to kill themselves, not just with a gun or booze. Overdosing on pain killer pills is another common one.

But I have never heard of pain killer pills stopping someone that is breaking into a house to rape the wife and daughters. But a gun has.
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I think and over dose on single malt, something with a Glen name would be a good way out when the time comes.
 
In general. Like if you took all the people with guns, and all the people without.

Who's 3 year old kids are more likely to die from a gun? Gun owners, or non gun owners?
 
3RA1N1AC said:
In general. Like if you took all the people with guns, and all the people without.

Who's 3 year old kids are more likely to die from a gun? Gun owners, or non gun owners?
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Do the guns have serial numbers?
 
3RA1N1AC said:
In general. Like if you took all the people with guns, and all the people without.

Who's 3 year old kids are more likely to die from a gun? Gun owners, or non gun owners?
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Again....there are a LOT of factors that determine that answer. Simply having the gun is no more a determination of being at a higher chance of dying, than owning a car gives you a higher chance for a car accident.

That's what you're not GETTING here. And I have a feeling that it's because you don't like the answer that actual gun owners are giving you.

That's fine if you don't like guns. But you need to accept the answer from those of us who actually own them.
 
I don't want to ban guns, I think every criminal should be allowed to have a fully automatic uzi.
 
3RA1N1AC said:
Serial numbers are just a way for the government to begin their inevitable gun confiscation program.
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I mean as long as we are asking these questions id like ti differentiate dead shot 3 years olds between law abiding gun owning households and some high jackass that stole one gun household. The former i think has a great shot at life. The later will probably kill themselves just to get away from their shit parents.
 
Jade Falcon said:
Simply having the gun is no more a determination of being at a higher chance of dying, than owning a car gives you a higher chance for a car accident.
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So you are saying that owning a car doesn't make you more likely to get in a car accident?
 
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