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I'm a fan of his game. DOn't think he is anywhere near a #1 guy though. I do have a problem when people start saying so-in-so player has never been past the first round or so-in-so has never won a ring. Guys who's game I have or had tons of respect for like T-Mac/ Andre Miller/ Charles Barkley........ TMac like only got his team past the first round like once. It wasn't HIS fault. Like Andre Miller not getting past the first round...... that guy leaves it on the floor every night, wasn't his fault his teammates didn't step it up in the playoffs. And Chuck...... never won a ring along with Stockton and Malone. The fact they didn't doesn't make them any less of players compared to people who have. Just my opinion.

TMac never got his team passed the first round ONCE. He was on the roster when the Rockets beat us in the first round but he didn't play a second and he wasn't on the bench.
 
And it was TMac's fault he never got passed the first round. He choked in the big games. His Magic team had a 3-1 lead vs the Pistons and then he choked it away and played awful in Game 7. Everyone else on the Magic played great that day. The loss was squarely on TMac.
 
I'm a fan of his game. DOn't think he is anywhere near a #1 guy though. I do have a problem when people start saying so-in-so player has never been past the first round or so-in-so has never won a ring. Guys who's game I have or had tons of respect for like T-Mac/ Andre Miller/ Charles Barkley........ TMac like only got his team past the first round like once. It wasn't HIS fault. Like Andre Miller not getting past the first round...... that guy leaves it on the floor every night, wasn't his fault his teammates didn't step it up in the playoffs. And Chuck...... never won a ring along with Stockton and Malone. The fact they didn't doesn't make them any less of players compared to people who have. Just my opinion.

...those guys played hard(en) :lol:
 
TMac averaged 32ppg in 02-03 season but in Game 7, he shoots 29% from the field. Meanwhile, Gooden's playing out of his mind with 20/17 and Giricek played well too. It wasn't his teammates fault he shot so badly.
 
yes lets judge someones career off of one game

in other news, tony delk is a hall of famer
 
I'm a big fan, 3RA1N1AC, of how you pull out Tony Delk as your poster child of one-off games....not Fat Lever or Willie Burton or Scott Skiles, always Tony Delk.

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he struck a chord with me for some reason, what can i say, although scott skiles is a great one as well, kudos
 
Even Damon dropped 50 once.

We still lost that game because Dan Dickau torched us.
 
Wasn't Burton's against the Heat who had just got rid of him?
 
yes lets judge someones career off of one game

in other news, tony delk is a hall of famer

He failed to get out of the first round every year. There are tons of examples of when he blew it. That was one.
 
It's relevant because HCP said that the reason TMac never got out of the first round because of his teammates but there was an example in which he had the shot (it was the closest he got) and he blew it and it was all on them. It was a much more important game than Delk's game.
 
I remember uncle cliffy going off for 50 at the tail end of his career and being surprised.
 
He failed to get out of the first round every year. There are tons of examples of when he blew it. That was one.

the fact that he got that team to the playoffs in the first place is so much more impressive than any bullshit you can pretend you believe is important
 
Harden was awesome last night against the Lakers. Worth every dollar he gets. But the Refs really need to cut down on his traveling. Multiple times he took a full three 3 steps before dribbling. Not sure how some players get away with it.
 

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