Trade Idea Harden to Blazers?

[KSF-ERIC]

Watching the Rockets last night, it was clear to me that the Rockets need to blow it up. It will never work. Westbrook is awful and Harden can’t win a title as the #1 option. In fact, history (2012) says he can’t do it as the #3 option. But what if we brought him to Portland where he no longer has to be The Man? Houston fans would love the all around game of McCollum (what is this midrange thing he’s doing?) and we could throw other pieces their way including size so they could put together a proper team. Portland would finally have a big guard in their backcourt. Houston can send us PJ Tucker too. They can have Ariza back to go with Zach Collins and Simons and our next two first round picks. Sign Marc Gasol with MLE.

Dame/Adams
Harden/GT2
Tucker/Hood
Melo/Little
Nurkic/Gasol

That team has toughness in spades. If CP3 can carry Harden to WCF 3-2 lead, Dame can take him the distance. Dame can also play off the ball a bit with Harden handling the ball. Teams wouldn’t be able to trap either of them.

 

[SharpesTriumph]

Interesting thought.

Even if we could trade for Harden and even if it made us title favorites I dont know that I could support his ref baiting scam of a style of basketball.

 

[BonesJones]

Someone's been drinking

 

[Mediocre Man]

It’s cute when fans over value their teams players

 

[blazerkor]

It would take so much more to get Harden. Then there is the fact that both him and Dame need the ball and neither is a big time defender. Yeah if we could get Harden we might be better but with what we would have to give up it wouldn't make us contenders. That being said, Harden is on a contract for at least two more seasons so I just don't see Houston's hand being forced into trading him for anything other than another MVP caliber player or a much bigger package than what you were offering or we could offer without giving up Dame. So he's not someone we could get and we really don't need him. The reason why people floated so many ideas for Giannis wasn't just because his team under-performed but also because he's going into the last season of his contract.

 

[mook]

It's heresy I know, but Westbrook is the much, much easier get. CJ for Russ--who says no?

 

[mook]

It's heresy I know, but Westbrook is the much, much easier get. CJ for Russ--who says no?

Holy shit--I looked up his salary and the dude is getting paid $46m in 2022-23 when he's 35. Nevermind that shit.

 

[Rastapopoulos]

Beat you by 8 years.

 

[Buffalo Custard]

Don't like his style of play at all - but if he helped the Blazers win a title I would volunteer to comb the lice from his beard!

 

[stampedehero]

Westbrook and Harden won't help. The team needs to play defense before it can carry on in the playoffs. I would prefer a new coach that came from collage ranks rather than waste money on the beard and the mud man.

 

[SheedSoNasty]

It's heresy I know, but Westbrook is the much, much easier get. CJ for Russ--who says no?

Dame

 

[julius]

Boy, I wish there was a thread started about trade ideas...

 

[UncleCliffy'sDaddy]

I just threw up in my mouth......and then blew chips all over the floor. I’d rather have Donald Trump running the point for Portland.....

 

[James lamphear]

Watching the Rockets last night, it was clear to me that the Rockets need to blow it up. It will never work. Westbrook is awful and Harden can’t win a title as the #1 option. In fact, history (2012) says he can’t do it as the #3 option. But what if we brought him to Portland where he no longer has to be The Man? Houston fans would love the all around game of McCollum (what is this midrange thing he’s doing?) and we could throw other pieces their way including size so they could put together a proper team. Portland would finally have a big guard in their backcourt. Houston can send us PJ Tucker too. They can have Ariza back to go with Zach Collins and Simons and our next two first round picks. Sign Marc Gasol with MLE.

Dame/Adams
Harden/GT2
Tucker/Hood
Melo/Little
Nurkic/Gasol

That team has toughness in spades. If CP3 can carry Harden to WCF 3-2 lead, Dame can take him the distance. Dame can also play off the ball a bit with Harden handling the ball. Teams wouldn’t be able to trap either of them.

One thing I don't see Adams making this team next year.

 

[Orion Bailey]

LOL.....

 

[Orion Bailey]

I just threw up in my mouth......and then blew chips all over the floor. I’d rather have Donald Trump running the point for Portland.....

Now THATS saying something! lol.

 

[Chris Craig]

If Harden came to Portland he would never get to the free throw line again and so he would be shit because that is most of his gimmick.

 

[Rastapopoulos]

It's heresy I know, but Westbrook is the much, much easier get. CJ for Russ--who says no?

Everyone on this board except possibly HCP.

 

[Rastapopoulos]

Boy, I wish there was a thread started about trade ideas...

Because threads are a precious limited resource.

 

[Haakzilla]

No to Choke Harde. /

 

[Lanny]

Watching the Rockets last night, it was clear to me that the Rockets need to blow it up. It will never work. Westbrook is awful and Harden can’t win a title as the #1 option. In fact, history (2012) says he can’t do it as the #3 option. But what if we brought him to Portland where he no longer has to be The Man? Houston fans would love the all around game of McCollum (what is this midrange thing he’s doing?) and we could throw other pieces their way including size so they could put together a proper team. Portland would finally have a big guard in their backcourt. Houston can send us PJ Tucker too. They can have Ariza back to go with Zach Collins and Simons and our next two first round picks. Sign Marc Gasol with MLE.

Dame/Adams
Harden/GT2
Tucker/Hood
Melo/Little
Nurkic/Gasol

That team has toughness in spades. If CP3 can carry Harden to WCF 3-2 lead, Dame can take him the distance. Dame can also play off the ball a bit with Harden handling the ball. Teams wouldn’t be able to trap either of them.

What? I can't believe you're serious. The only player we could possibly trade to get Harden would be Lillard and that could only happen over my dead body.

 

[UncleCliffy'sDaddy]

Why would we trade for a guy who is far and away a worse defender than McCollum??? at least CJ makes an effort most of the time. Harden doesn’t even try. He has to be the most overrated player in the NBA.....and that’s saying a mouthful.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

I just threw up in my mouth......and then blew chips all over the floor.

What people don't know is Chips is the name of UCD's dog.

 

[e_blazer]

What people don't know is Chips is the name of UCD's dog.

Obviously, he’s a very happy boy.

 

[Rastapopoulos]

Two birds with one stone:

 

[blazerkor]

Why would we trade for a guy who is far and away a worse defender than McCollum??? at least CJ makes an effort most of the time. Harden doesn’t even try. He has to be the most overrated player in the NBA.....and that’s saying a mouthful.

Harden isn't a worse defender than CJ both guys are very rarely full effort when it comes to the defensive end and I think of both as one way players but Harden is bigger (two inches taller, over ten pounds heavier, has five inches more on his wingspan and seven inches on his standing reach), both guys are virtually equally athletic per measurables but I think Harden shows more lateral quickness in game so he is easily a better defender of shooting guards and other wings. Harden's defense is far and away more improved since that series in which Wes obliterated him and I think CJ's D has been equally terrible his whole career, I've never noticed him getting better. I do agree that Harden is overrated, I don't see how him or Curry as net negative defenders were ever MVPs there are just so many players in the league that are gifted offensively and are also at least net neutral on D but a ton are plus defenders so I don't get that at all.

That being said, Harden would obviously be an absolute upgrade over CJ... that's not close. However the trade still makes no sense to me because Harden is still redundant with Dame on offense and worse than Dame on D where we need someone better than Dame. If we could somehow get James Harden for CJ and Ariza I would pull that trigger so fast and laugh so fucking hard that I'd hurt myself. Then I would promptly find out just how much we could get for Harden because I know it would be a lot more than we could get for CJ and Ariza... and Harden would be gone to the highest bidder before he ever wore or even held up a Blazer jersey. That difference in trade value would be transformative to this roster. It's all a moot point because the idea that we could get Harden for CJ, Ariza and even a bunch of picks is so incredibly unlikely. I could see the Rockets being willing to trade Harden for CJ, Nurk and possibly a pick but I value Nurk too much to do that one... I just don't think we could get the right pieces back even as highly valued as Harden is in the league to offset Nurk's huge value as a guy with a high floor and an ever increasing higher ceiling and CJ who is a known commodity. Again though the idea that someone wouldn't make the exchange of CJ for Harden is so ridiculous.

 

[PCmor7]

I think it's obvious we trade half our roster for Giannis, the other half of our roster for Harden. Then we have Dame, Giannis and Harden and we fill out the other 12 spots with whoever won The Basketball Tournament.

 

[blazerkor]

Two birds with one stone:
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Horrible trade for Milwaukee at this point due to so many factors a couple being age and two way value. Then you considering that the Bucks still need to add a player or players to make the trade work (it's super lame to put up a trade machine image without pulling the trigger) and Milwaukee doesn't have bad contracts so they would be adding even more value to a trade that is already so bad for them.

 

[riverman]

I think Harden should sign with a Russian team in Siberia

 

[Rastapopoulos]

Horrible trade for Milwaukee at this point due to so many factors a couple being age and two way value. Then you considering that the Bucks still need to add a player or players to make the trade work (it's super lame to put up a trade machine image without pulling the trigger) and Milwaukee doesn't have bad contracts so they would be adding even more value to a trade that is already so bad for them.

"Super lame"? What, you can't be arsed to come up with your own trade? The point wasn't to make a workable trade it was to make a player-swap suggestion in pictoral form.

Of course it wouldn't improve either team, largely because each team is built around the OTHER PLAYER. But it would certainly shut up all the people who are desperate for each player to be traded.