Harkless resolves after Crabbe decision?

[PtldPlatypus]

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/teams/por/salary

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Looks like the Blazers have ~$9M they could offer and remain under the LT this year.

Philly has Ben Simmons. I think he'll be their SF, no?
Denver has Gallinari and Wilson Chandler
Mo isn't much of an upgrade from PJ Tucker in Phoenix
Utah has Gordon Hayward at SF.

The team that I think would have a real reason to sign Mo is the Nets. They're a hot mess all the way around.

Slim Pickings.

OKC would be the best place for him. With Ilyasova and Singler their only SF's, Durant's departure has left a gaping hole that a young athletic guy with tons of potential would fill nicely.

 

[BlazerWookee]

https://www.bostonglobe.com/sports/...ail-blazers/J4GTZkFeeu3uiqQzoJ714M/story.html

Turner said he was told he will be a starter for Portland, which went 44-38 and reached the Western Conference semifinals last season.

Turner said he was told he will be a starter. He didn't say that he was told by Jason Quick, lol.

 

[e_blazer]

OKC would be the best place for him. With Ilyasova and Singler their only SF's, Durant's departure has left a gaping hole that a young athletic guy with tons of potential would fill nicely.

I agree, but I don't think they'll do anything until they get the issue of Westbrook and the possibility of an extension off of their plate. If Westbrook tells them he's not going to sign an extension, then I could definitely see them making a play for Harkless.

 

[BlazerWookee]

I think it's pretty obvious Turner will start at SF and Aminu at PF. The only other possibility would be Crabbe at SF instead of Turner, but we would really struggle with that lineup.

Well, at least until Meyers comes back and resumes starting at PF.

 

[BlazerWookee]

The difference being that Blake couldn't hold Mo's jock strap. Blake/Roy/Nate had a polyamorous thing going on though so Andre (and any bigs wanting and entry pass or cutters hoping for a bounce pass) was left out in the cold.

Roy was significantly more efficient alongside Blake than he was alongside Miller.

 

[boredinsalem]

Roy was significantly more efficient alongside Blake than he was alongside Miller.

Because he was a diva who refused to run off a screen or ever cut back door. I think the trade off in efficiency for our bigs and forwards (especially Aldridge and Batum) was well worth any drop-off for Roy.

 

[Mediocre Man]

Whoa.. who said guaranteed millions? Have yo seen an offer sheet?

Not a poor analogy at all.

The discussion has been to sign here for a year, or take an offer somewhere else. That other offer would be multi year. This has been a hypothetical discussion. No reason to sign for 1 year here if he has multi years elsewhere.

 

[Orion Bailey]

The discussion has been to sign here for a year, or take an offer somewhere else. That other offer would be multi year. This has been a hypothetical discussion. No reason to sign for 1 year here if he has multi years elsewhere.

There absolutely is. As others have noted, he may not develop under another system like he would here. so in another year, he would be even more valuable to make even more money that the current hypothetical.

Again, If he wasn't willing to take a chance, he would just sign the QO, but you have to take a chance to hit it big most of the time, and that is what he is doing. Basically doing what Leonard did last year. Betting on himself.

 

[Mediocre Man]

There absolutely is. As others have noted, he may not develop under another system like he would here. so in another year, he would be even more valuable to make even more money that the current hypothetical.

Again, If he wasn't willing to take a chance, he would just sign the QO, but you have to take a chance to hit it big most of the time, and that is what he is doing. Basically doing what Leonard did last year. Betting on himself.

Just wow. Some of you are really crazy.

Leonard lost his bet though

He could develop behind, 2-3 people ahead of him. He also may not. He could develop more on a different team with more playing time. He also may not. So why not take the guaranteed money somewhere else?

 

[Orion Bailey]

Just wow. Some of you are really crazy.

Leonard lost his bet though

He could develop behind, 2-3 people ahead of him. He also may not. He could develop more on a different team with more playing time. He also may not. So why not take the guaranteed money somewhere else?

Again... Who else has guaranteed him anything?

Leonard bet on himself, but to say he lost is a bit vague. He lost out on some money by not extending, but he still got a four year deal in double digit millions per year.

 

[Mediocre Man]

Again... Who else has guaranteed him anything?

Leonard bet on himself, but to say he lost is a bit vague. He lost out on some money by not extending, but he still got a four year deal in double digit millions per year.

NO ONE IS GUARANTEEING HIM ANYTHING. It was a hypothetical question from someone. He would NOT be better off signing a qualifying offer from us over a multi year, multi million dollar deal.

 

[PtldPlatypus]

NO ONE IS GUARANTEEING HIM ANYTHING. It was a hypothetical question from someone. He would NOT be better off signing a qualifying offer from us over a multi year, multi million dollar deal.

It is arguable that his market value was depressed due to his RFA status. If the best he can get this summer is, say, 27M over 3 years, there is definitely a very good chance that he would be able to command much more than that next summer as a UFA.

 

[Orion Bailey]

NO ONE IS GUARANTEEING HIM ANYTHING. It was a hypothetical question from someone. He would NOT be better off signing a qualifying offer from us over a multi year, multi million dollar deal.

Thats just your opinion. Seems IM not the only one who disagrees. Read up^^^

 

[Denny Crane]

OKC would be the best place for him. With Ilyasova and Singler their only SF's, Durant's departure has left a gaping hole that a young athletic guy with tons of potential would fill nicely.

Sure, but I was going off the list of who has the cap space to make him a big offer.

 

[PtldPlatypus]

Sure, but I was going off the list of who has the cap space to make him a big offer.

An incomplete list apparently, because OKC has over $12M in cap space since renouncing Waiters.

 

[Mediocre Man]

It is arguable that his market value was depressed due to his RFA status. If the best he can get this summer is, say, 27M over 3 years, there is definitely a very good chance that he would be able to command much more than that next summer as a UFA.

Wouldn't that be the case 3 years from now after he got 27 million?

 

[Mediocre Man]

Thats just your opinion. Seems IM not the only one who disagrees. Read up^^^

Two people are wrong in this conversation and neither is me

 

[PtldPlatypus]

Wouldn't that be the case 3 years from now after he got 27 million?

Sure, but if a year after playing for a measly 4.1 million, he signs a deal starting at 11M instead of 9M, then he's likely to come out ahead overall after all is said and done.

 

[PtldPlatypus]

Two people are wrong in this conversation and neither is me

Or, nobody is wrong in this conversation since it's all hypotheticals, conjecture, and speculation.

 

[Mediocre Man]

Sure, but if a year after playing for a measly 4.1 million, he signs a deal starting at 11M instead of 9M, then he's likely to come out ahead overall after all is said and done.

OR
He could blow out his knee and get half that

 

[e_blazer]

An incomplete list apparently, because OKC has over $12M in cap space since renouncing Waiters.

Yeah, not sure what happened there, but I've fixed my post above. The Thunder come in at #5 on the list of teams with available cap space. I copied and pasted from the Cap Tracker page at Spotrac, but I must have inadvertently deleted the Thunder when I was cleaning it up for posting. Sorry.

http://www.spotrac.com/nba/cap/

 

[illmatic99]

Waiters just signed with MIA for 2.9 mil.
Wow

 

[PtldPlatypus]

OR
He could blow out his knee and get half that

All are possibilities. Which is all OB and I are saying. Your position has been "He would NOT be better off signing a qualifying offer from us over a multi year, multi million dollar deal." I find that position too definitive. I posit that he might not be better off signing a QO, but then again, he might.

 

[Harry's Raincoat]

I remain convinced that Harkless' camp is hoping they get an actual multi-year offer worth more than what the Blazers have probably offered to date.
Blazers are offering the QO for 1 year at $4+M. They may also be offering a contract up to $8-9M/yr which keeps them just under the LT. It would be a huge surprise and pretty foolish for the team to be offering a larger contract when so far, there are no other bidders!! (Darius Miles was in the same position and somehow convinced team to sign him to large contract when NO OTHER TEAM was bidding) Hoping they don't make the same mistake!

 

[Orion Bailey]

Wouldn't that be the case 3 years from now after he got 27 million?

Two people are wrong in this conversation and neither is me

Sure, but if a year after playing for a measly 4.1 million, he signs a deal starting at 11M instead of 9M, then he's likely to come out ahead overall after all is said and done.

Or, nobody is wrong in this conversation since it's all hypotheticals, conjecture, and speculation.

All are possibilities. Which is all OB and I are saying. Your position has been "He would NOT be better off signing a qualifying offer from us over a multi year, multi million dollar deal." I find that position too definitive. I posit that he might not be better off signing a QO, but then again, he might.

HA! I don't even have to play along. Thanks PLaty!

 

[Denny Crane]

An incomplete list apparently, because OKC has over $12M in cap space since renouncing Waiters.

I didn't make the list, it was in the post I replied to.

 

[Denny Crane]

Waiters just signed with MIA for 2.9 mil.
Wow

Miami is so fucked. They lost Deng and Wade. This is Wade's replacement?

 

[ripcityboy]

Sorry, I don't read the "offseason chat" very much but I don't see a team offering a significant contract to Harkless..... yet. I mean a desperate team like Brooklyn might gl for him.... but has Harkless really shown enough outside for that hot streak in the playoffs? Again, I don't follow the offseason banter like you guys do. Betting on himself with the Blazers in the short term seems to make sense.

 

[Nate]

4 year 42 million.