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I really want to keep this thread going strong. It's a good conversation. It has been bumped a few times now.
 
Bumping a thread is fine. Bumping a thread with no new content or conversation pieces is generally frowned upon, as many readers will wonder "WhyTF is this being bumped?!"

Now, if, say, Barnes signed a max entension or twisted his ankle or got picked for the Olympic team or dropped 50 on the Nets, then it might be a good time to resume the conversation. As it is, why bump it?
 
BrianFromWA said:
All,

In the past many of you have expressed an interest in doing some writing for the site. Even though I am out of the country for the season, I'd like to see us have a semi-organized plan for some content for the group at large, because if I understand correctly, Denny and Sly are on the hook for the last year of our option as the "Blazers' Official Forum".
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If the Blazers dump us as their official board, the mods can return the thread title to "Harrison Fuckin Barnes."
 
I'm so happy that I can look back at this thread and see that I was pro-Lillard from the start.
 
Do we have any interest in throwing a max at him this summer?
 
I hope we don't throw a max at him. I'd rather resign crabbe at 10 or 11 if the alternative is Harrison Barnes at max.

If Parsons knee is ok, I'd rather sign him
 
I not thrilled with throwing max at him to be honest. You have to bit the bullet and give someone the money though.

Who would you all give the money to that is available? Lets strike Durant, James, Drummond, Howard, and Beal off the board.

So who are you ok with maxing out? Horford too old. Parsons might have injury issues. DeRozan? I think a bit of a pipe dream but ok. Barnes I am meh on but he is healthy...

http://hoopshype.com/2016/01/16/nba-free-agency-2016-the-top-players/
 
I don't buy it, but guys like Steve Kerr insist Barnes is the next James Harden in OKC. A guy who's underutilized because of the talent around him and can do a lot more.

I don't see it.
 
We're not going to sign anyone to a MAX contract. Sign good players to reasonable contracts, and hope that a good trade materializes. Saddling ourselves with a bad contract just because we have money to spend isn't a good idea. In a few years the league is going to be full of Rashard Lewises - I'd rather not have one on our roster. Then we can take a Lewis off another team in exchange for also taking something of worth.
 
yuyuza1 said:
I don't buy it, but guys like Steve Kerr insist Barnes is the next James Harden in OKC. A guy who's underutilized because of the talent around him and can do a lot more.

I don't see it.
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Me either. With Harden you saw that he was good on OKC. With Barnes you see that he's just an okay role player. But of course his coach is going to blow smoke up his ass.
 
yuyuza1 said:
I don't buy it, but guys like Steve Kerr insist Barnes is the next James Harden in OKC. A guy who's underutilized because of the talent around him and can do a lot more.

I don't see it.
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He might be able to be like TOR-era Bosh: put up numbers on a crappy-to-pedestrian team.
 
KeepOnRollin said:
I not thrilled with throwing max at him to be honest. You have to bit the bullet and give someone the money though.

Who would you all give the money to that is available? Lets strike Durant, James, Drummond, Howard, and Beal off the board.

So who are you ok with maxing out? Horford too old. Parsons might have injury issues. DeRozan? I think a bit of a pipe dream but ok. Barnes I am meh on but he is healthy...

http://hoopshype.com/2016/01/16/nba-free-agency-2016-the-top-players/
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Olshey needs to go HAM at Durant, Howard, Derozan, and Horford. Little chance of any one of them taking our money, but he has to go for broke.
 
PtldPlatypus said:
Olshey needs to go HAM at Durant, Howard, Derozan, and Horford. Little chance of any one of them taking our money, but he has to go for broke.
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I would strike off Horford (I don't want to pay the guy 23 MIL for a season at 34.5 years old) but I agree. He needs to give it a shot with the big wigs for sure. I just not trying to get my hopes up. Haha.

P.S. Ooops, I guess Howard too. He is a few months older than Horford even.
 
BlazerWookee said:
Dwight Howard? Seriously?
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I know you hate the guy, but yes, seriously. He would make the team better. Significantly.

If we could deal Leonard and Kaman for Howard before the trade deadline, I'd do it in a second.
 
KeepOnRollin said:
I not thrilled with throwing max at him to be honest. You have to bit the bullet and give someone the money though.

Who would you all give the money to that is available? Lets strike Durant, James, Drummond, Howard, and Beal off the board.

So who are you ok with maxing out? Horford too old. Parsons might have injury issues. DeRozan? I think a bit of a pipe dream but ok. Barnes I am meh on but he is healthy...

http://hoopshype.com/2016/01/16/nba-free-agency-2016-the-top-players/
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I wouldn't even want Beal at this point. The guy is Eric Gordon 2.0

CJ > Beal.
 
PtldPlatypus said:
I know you hate the guy, but yes, seriously. He would make the team better. Significantly.

If we could deal Leonard and Kaman for Howard before the trade deadline, I'd do it in a second.
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Wookee hates everyone that's not on the team..... and for some reason LaMarcus Aldridge. He refuses to hate the turncoat.
 
Natebishop3 said:
I wouldn't even want Beal at this point. The guy is Eric Gordon 2.0

CJ > Beal.
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Once again, something you never would have said 6 months ago. You are on record of wanting us to make a max offer on him on the hope that WAS doesn't match. Not to say I blamed you at the time. Just funny how things change.
 
KeepOnRollin said:
Once again, something you never would have said 6 months ago. You are on record of wanting us to make a max offer on him on the hope that WAS doesn't match. Not to say I blamed you at the time. Just funny how things change.
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Yeah, and that was before he had significant leg injuries that have kept him out of the lineup for huge chunks of time. I also wanted Peyton Manning on the 49ers after he left Indy.... but he's horrible now. Time marches on. Things change.
 
Natebishop3 said:
Yeah, and that was before he had significant leg injuries that have kept him out of the lineup for huge chunks of time. I also wanted Peyton Manning on the 49ers after he left Indy.... but he's horrible now, so was I wrong then?
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What? 6 months ago was off-season and you still wanted him. It was known that Beal was injury prone before this off-season. He had issues all last year as well.

You are making this more than I was saying. I know lots of people that still wanted him this off-season. No harm in it. The point was things can change fast in the NBA. I don't want him now for sure (and neither do you).
 
KeepOnRollin said:
What? 6 months ago was off-season and you still wanted him. It was known that Beal was injury prone before this off-season. He had issues all last year as well.

You are making this more than I was saying. I know lots of people that still wanted him this off-season. No harm in it. The point was things can change fast in the NBA. I don't want him now for sure (and neither do you).
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He is on pace to start less than half of the games this season. That's a drastic turn for the worse.

Last season he played in 77% of the games.

The year before that he played in 89% of the games.

This season he has played in only 55% of the games up to this point, and he has only started in 36% of those games. That's pretty damn bad.
 
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