Free Agent Harry Giles to Portland

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calvin natt said:
Yes true but I am worried about fit. I don’t know if he’ll fit. And will be get better? He’s already 22.
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Sure hope he does, but his PT to develop will be definitely limited on this roster. But his defense should keep him on the floor for at least 20 mpg
 
Here's an analysis from "Grizznation":

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With more than a cup of coffee’s worth of NBA experience now under his belt, Harry Giles has firmly established that he can play. Giles’ scoring prowess from both the long midrange (43%, 69th percentile) and at the rim (75%, 73rd percentile) during 2019-20 allowed him to make the most of his infrequent playing time in a crowded front court. A polished ball handler with a smooth gait for someone manning the power forward/center spots, Giles’ ability to break down opposing fours and fives off the bounce has undoubtedly played a part in his efficiency from inside and out last season, as it keeps the defender guessing and constantly on their heels.

When Giles catches the ball fifteen feet from the basket, the majority of reserve bigs are in a world of trouble. Quite often the opponent is too slow-moving to stick with Harry off the dribble. But even if they’re able to keep Giles from driving the lane, the Duke alum is likely to have room to shoot his pristine midrange jumper. The act of contesting jumpers is outside the comfort zone of many front court talents, plus should the defender leave their feet Giles can attack the closeout for an easy two.

Giles’ offensive repertoire extends beyond simply putting up points. The youngster also operated as a facilitating maestro out of the elbow/high post (86th percentile in assist percentage last season per Cleaning the Glass). His poise and patience as a passer is tremendous, and Sacramento could rely on him to run the offense for a few plays a game. Giles spots open baseline cutters more often than not and rewards them with timely, precise dimes, either in the form of a bounce or chest pass. Considering Harry is only 22, it’s not out of the realm of possibility that he evolves into one of the upper echelon passing centers in the NBA.

Giles has a Swiss army knife skill set, but considering he’s suffered a dastardly case of the injury bug since his introduction to the pros, should the Grizzlies still look to obtain his services?

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Numbers That Make Giles
16.4 - Giles posted a PER of 16.4, which is above the league average of 15. For perspective, he outranked Collin Sexton, Fred VanVleet, and Buddy Hield in this metric. Harry’s PER proves that he is quite productive during his time on the court, as it weighs both positive and negative statistics, meaning Giles does more to help his team than hurt them. His PER hints to the possibility that he could effectively serve as a reserve big for Memphis even in limited minutes because he did just that in 2019-20 with the Kings.

1.4- Giles may not be an out of this world defender, but his 1.4% steal percentage (76th percentile per Cleaning the Glass) highlights how he can wreak havoc with his active hands. Harry has a knack for mucking up pick and roll actions with his lengthy reach. This is a skill that could come in handy should he sign with the Grizzlies, as the team is at their best when forcing turnovers and getting out in transition for fastbreak chances.

22.2- Giles finished with an impressive defensive rebounding percentage of 22.2%, a number superior to everyone on the Grizzlies roster besides glass eating savant Jonas Valanciunas. If the Grizzlies are searching for a board snatcher who could play alongside pedestrian rebounder Jackson Jr. for stretches and help him out on the glass, Giles is perhaps the man best suited for the job who is also within an affordable price range.

Numbers that may make the Grizzlies pass on Giles
29- A significant 29% of all Giles’ field-goal attempts in 2019-20 came from the short midrange, which lies in the area between the paint and 15 feet from the basket. Giles found success in the long midrange but struggled mightily from 4-14 feet (36%). He should fire away from the three-point line instead of the inefficient, awkward short midrange, as even though he’s only taken a handful of threes in his career his perimeter jumper oozes promise.

131- Harry has missed a total of 131 games over his NBA career due to injury. He should technically have three seasons worth of experience in the league, but he sat out the entirety of his rookie year to nurse knee injuries that plagued him at the high school and collegiate levels. Then, during his sophomore campaign he suffered a left thigh impingement which kept him sidelined for the end of 2018-19. Additionally, Giles only participated in 46 of Sacramento’s 72 games this past season. Harry has yet to catch a break in terms of the injury bug, plain and simple.

The Grizzlies must take into account Giles’ injury history should they opt to offer him a deal, as he has been unable to put together an injury-free year in the NBA."
 
Love it. I think I suggested this signing about 4 or 5 times over the past 10 months. Harry's passing is underrated too. Hope we can somehow slip in a team option for a second year.
 
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BLAZINGGIANTS said:
What’s great is you nerds actually know who they are. Had no idea who they were and had to look them up to understand the joke. Heard some songs but had no idea of the name. Not surprised you nerds know all about some cheesy boy band.
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BLAZINGGIANTS said:
What’s great is you nerds actually know who they are. Had no idea who they were and had to look them up to understand the joke. Heard some songs but had no idea of the name. Not surprised you nerds know all about some cheesy boy band.
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Get back to me when you have a 15 year old daughter.
Oh that’s right, you would have to actually have interaction with a human female........ #BAM
 
With the amount of bigs we have, only way this guy gets on the floor would be in the backup PG role right?
 
I like this in theory, because Giles has talent. But I hope we trade for a ball-handler at some point. Also, has Giles ever been healthy?

But doubts aside, this is a low-risk gamble. Thumbs up.
 
You'd think there'd be more NBA players called Harry given when Harry Potter was first published.
 
What is this strange feeling? Could it be optimism? It's unfamiliar anyway. And when the Lakers sign Gasol and Whiteside for the minimum that should clear it up.
 
IMO, Portland had a hole at PF. Their only 6'10ish guy appears to still be injured and recovering from surgery. And you need guys like that if you want to compete with the Lakers and AD. And since they are the champs, and in conference, competing with the Lakers should be a priority. It's clear AD can overpower a lot of people but he absolutely destroys any SF bodies teams throw at him.

so Giles, on paper, fits the need. Now, I've seen so little of him I don't really know what level of play he can bring. Kind of a mystery. But at least he's not the 7th SF body Portland has
 
I was not aware that Giles was that good of a passer to cutters. If only we had a cutter on this team that can finish strong at the hoop... Jk but I like the idea of Giles to DJJ.
 
illmatic99 said:
Biggie's gone, as is probably Wenyen. I really was hoping we could keep Gabriel because I like his game and he's easy to root for, but Giles is simply a better player and prospect.
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I'm not sure if this is a signal about Wenyen. I think Giles is an upgrade that checks all the boxes you'd want at Biggie's position, a guy who can hold down the fort if you go big but Collins is either injured or in foul trouble. Wenyen to me was more of a small lineup 4 or 5 who can defend on the perimeter and even shoot out there on occasion; I see he and Giles as complementary more than redundant.

Other thing is he's a facilitator. Very good high post passer and if he shows a willingness to take (and make) elbow jumpers, the rest of his game really could explode.

He's a player I coveted his draft year. He's young, Really like this, very high reward, low risk.
 
wizenheimer said:
IMO, Portland had a hole at PF. Their only 6'10ish guy appears to still be injured and recovering from surgery. And you need guys like that if you want to compete with the Lakers and AD. And since they are the champs, and in conference, competing with the Lakers should be a priority. It's clear AD can overpower a lot of people but he absolutely destroys any SF bodies teams throw at him.

so Giles, on paper, fits the need. Now, I've seen so little of him I don't really know what level of play he can bring. Kind of a mystery. But at least he's not the 7th SF body Portland has
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Giles is sorta built like a wing, but plays a big's game. He's a bit frail. Listed at 6'10, but I don't see that while watching him. Not sure he does much on defense against AD
 
wizenheimer said:
IMO, Portland had a hole at PF. Their only 6'10ish guy appears to still be injured and recovering from surgery. And you need guys like that if you want to compete with the Lakers and AD. And since they are the champs, and in conference, competing with the Lakers should be a priority. It's clear AD can overpower a lot of people but he absolutely destroys any SF bodies teams throw at him.

so Giles, on paper, fits the need. Now, I've seen so little of him I don't really know what level of play he can bring. Kind of a mystery. But at least he's not the 7th SF body Portland has
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This.

The Blazers are building a roster that can match bigs for bigs with a team like the Lakers while not being at a disadvantage against teams that go ultra-small and quick. They can put scorers on the floor at all positions or be able to put average to above average defenders at four of the five spots. The Blazers should be able to either adjust to different opponents or be able to impose their own style on almost anyone, so long as everyone buys into their roles.

A decent backup PG and possibly one more shooter and I don't see a glaring weakness on the roster.
 
Some thoughts:
1) Love the idea - a supertalented, but injury-racked player on the cheap. If he can recover from
his injury riddled past, we get a top of the lotto pick quality player for just a roster spot.

2) I watched the video above - his passing is tremendous. Luke Walton stuck him in the high
post, and he was hitting a lot of cutters (here's looking at you, Mr. Jones). This is in addition
to his dunking power and athleticism. Frankly, reminds me of the skill of Poku, with superior physicality.

3) He was just signed for 1 year - we don't get his Bird rights. If he stays healthy, and breaks out,
we MAY have trouble re-signing him, which would be disappointing. I'm sure the guys will make
him feel at home, though. Many of our players have had significant injuries, and can relate to
Harry's problems.

4) There's gotta be a Harry Potter joke in there somewhere, I just can't find it right now!
 
illmatic99 said:
Giles is sorta built like a wing, but plays a big's game. He's a bit frail. Listed at 6'10, but I don't see that while watching him. Not sure he does much on defense against AD
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I think it's just presence as much as anything. AD can't just shoot over him or overpower him down onto the block. It's also six fouls ... you have Zach and Giles and if one gets in foul trouble you aren't suddenly trying to guard Davis with a 6-7 guy.

He doesn't have to be able to lock up AD. He just has to make him work. The Lakers are so depending on their top two guys, anything you can do to wear them down is an enormous benefit.
 
THE HCP said:
Get back to me when you have a 15 year old daughter.
Oh that’s right, you would have to actually have interaction with a human female........ #BAM
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I have two daughters. My eldest listens to Tupac and other hip-hop and classic rock.

My younger daughter might know as she listens to pop, but she mostly listens to female artists.
 
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