Haywood and Mike Miller to Portland

[oldmangrouch]

You know you're getting old when the team is making trades you don't expect to see finished in your lifetime.

 

[magnifier661]

Miller is close to LeBron. I'm sure Cleveland made some kind of deal as to where they could get him back.

You can't do that anymore

 

[e_blazer]

You know you're getting old when the team is making trades you don't expect to see finished in your lifetime.

How soon are you planning on dying?

 

[oldmangrouch]

How soon are you planning on dying?

I'm pretty sure I will die of disgust before the next Presidential election.

 

[Mediocre Man]

Costs em 2.8, no?

Not really anything considering they are still way under the NBA minimum and either have to spend it on new players or divvy it up to existing players. It's money that HAD to be spent

 

[e_blazer]

I'm pretty sure I will die of disgust before the next Presidential election.

Nah, you have to stick around to make fun of the new buffoon. It's one of the joys of life.

 

[42N8Bounce]

So with Miller on the books, how much money does that leave the team then. Guesstimate?

I've updated the Blazers Salary Cap Info thread:
http://www.sportstwo.com/threads/blazers-salary-cap-info.286219/
My estimate is that the Blazers have $19,905,837 of CAP space remaining.

 

[BigGameDamian]

I've updated the Blazers Salary Cap Info thread:
http://www.sportstwo.com/threads/blazers-salary-cap-info.286219/
My estimate is that they have $19,905,837 of CAP space remaining.

What could be up Neil's sleeve?

 

[barfo]

What could be up Neil's sleeve?

Meth pipe and a shiv?

barfo

 

[bodyman5000 and 1]

This reminds me of the idea people have where they trade their car for a slightly better one. If they keep trading for a car just a bit better they could end up with a Ferrari or something.

Did Cleveland run a Craigslist ad for Haywood?

 

[Mediocre Man]

What could be up Neil's sleeve?

Is that where he keeps his failure to sign a top tier FA?

 

[BigGameDamian]

Now we need to trade a 1st round pick for Hedo Turkoglu.

 

[Pinwheel1]

If there are really 3 teams interested in MM, I say forget the buyout and trade him to the team of his choice......for another 2nd rounder. 3 picks for absolutely nothing would be a good use of our cap space.

 

[ripcityboy]

This trade really shows how hard a job Neil has. A trade like this is akin to to putting your blown out amplifier on Craigslist and hoping someone comes along and claims it. There's an old saying that publicity is creating "something from nothing." Olshey's trying to do the same thing with the Blazers roster while we are incentially the St Louis Browns. What a job. I wouldn't mind the salary but not the responsibility.

 

[Shooter]

You know you're getting old when the team is making trades you don't expect to see finished in your lifetime.

Heh. Very good.

 

[ripcityboy]

Heh. Very good.

watching put for falling debris!

 

[BonesJones]

Anyone else trying trade a bad contract? Might us well trade a second round pick for a 1st and a bad contract

 

[Wizard Mentor]

If there are really 3 teams interested in MM, I say forget the buyout and trade him to the team of his choice......for another 2nd rounder. 3 picks for absolutely nothing would be a good use of our cap space.

I can understand that 3 teams are interested in MM, but what can we get for Kingspeed and Mags?

 

[ripcityboy]

I can understand that 3 teams are interested in MM, but what can we get for Kingspeed and Mags?

Old ABA basketball, Six Pack of Pabst

 

[Pinwheel1]

I can understand that 3 teams are interested in MM, but what can we get for Kingspeed and Mags?

They are untouchable.

 

[SpamKing]

Good move! Anything that helps the Cavs fucks the Spurs . . .

 

[BonesJones]

They are untouchable.

I'd trade MM for a bag of peanuts but Mags followed me back on Twitter so I hope we keep him. Maybe we could trade Rasta for a top 5 pick?

 

[Draco]

With the Cavs payroll projected to be over $100 million this year and a massive luxury tax bill I don't think they use the big exception this season. If they add a player making $10 million it'll cost something crazy like $70 million.

It won't expire until July 28th, 2016 though. So next offseason they can give Mozgov a raise, give LeBron the new $30+ million max, use the MLE and then also use this trade exception while the luxury tax level will be far higher. See how Dallas got Zaza Pachulia, Washington got Jared Dudley, Charlotte got Jeremy Lamb, Boston got Perry Jones III, and we got Moe Harkless.

Heck we might even see them do the reverse of this trade next summer; acquire a player win a nonguaranteed contract for a second round pick. Then trade that pick and newly acquired non guaranteed contract again to an under the cap team for the same $10 million trade exception that will last until 2017. Pretty soon every over the cap team in the league will have Luke Ridnour and Brendan Haywood for a few days of the offseason to get $30 million of trade exceptions.

Biggest downside for the Blazers is if we are targeting the same trade partner next summer.

 

[jlprk]

If we could trade Miller for a 2nd round pick that'd be genius... we wouldve turned literally nothing into 3 second round picks

If both players are cut, we owe them absolutely no money. It cost us nothing

Paul Allen paid Cleveland $1M-3M, too. This benefits Cleveland so much that I expected Olshey to get a very late 1st round pick. Disappointing. Source:

The Cavs will also receive cash in the deal, sources said...Last season, the Cavs successfully used a trade exception to acquire Timofey Mozgov from the Denver Nuggets in January.

http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/1...an-haywood-mike-miller-portland-trail-blazers

If it's a late late 1st round pick, go for it. If it's a late late 2nd rounder, don't waste the time.

 

[OneLifeToLive]

I've updated the Blazers Salary Cap Info thread:
http://www.sportstwo.com/threads/blazers-salary-cap-info.286219/
My estimate is that the Blazers have $19,905,837 of CAP space remaining.

I thought the other number was just a tad high.

This is what I kind of thought.

 

[jlprk]

This trade really shows how hard a job Neil has. A trade like this is akin to to putting your blown out amplifier on Craigslist and hoping someone comes along and claims it. There's an old saying that publicity is creating "something from nothing."

Cleveland concocted the 2nd round pick scenario, and even publicly announced the 3 teams who had enough cap room to partner with them. See this thread.

http://www.sportstwo.com/threads/cavs-want-to-trade-brendon-haywood-to-us.287879/

Allen's money made the difference over the other 2 teams. Olshey just went along for the ride and failed to get a #1.

 

[OneLifeToLive]

Paul Allen paid Cleveland $1M-3M, too. This benefits Cleveland so much that I expected Olshey to get a very late 1st round pick. Disappointing. Source:



http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/1...an-haywood-mike-miller-portland-trail-blazers

I agree. But he very well could turn all of them into a late first in time...

 

[ripcityboy]

Cleveland concocted the 2nd round pick scenario, and even publicly announced the 3 teams who had enough cap room to partner with them. See this thread.

http://www.sportstwo.com/threads/cavs-want-to-trade-brendon-haywood-to-us.287879/

Allen's money made the difference over the other 2 teams. Olshey just went along for the ride and failed to get a #1.

You're expectations are REALLY high.

 

[jlprk]

What happen if Cleveland in the next 4 years decides to sell another 2019 2nd round pick? How does that work?

I don't think Cleveland can trade away either since they're both included in our deal even though we only get 1.

For 2019, Cleveland owned the Wolves' 2nd rounder, which is now ours. For 2020, we received Cleveland's own 2nd round pick.

To watch a pick move from team to team, just read left to right. (I've pushed this site since I came to S2. It was the same a decade ago on the ESPN Blazer board. I couldn't get them to understand it, either.)

http://www.prosportstransactions.com/basketball/DraftTrades/Future/Cavaliers.htm

 

[OneLifeToLive]

You're expectations are REALLY high.

Well...

Keep in mind who helped who here. Maybe they should be.