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The Blazers have 2 more draft picks than they did 24 hours ago, using money they had to spend anyway. Total fail.

I was wondering when he was going to restock our 2nd rounders. Looks like he just waited for the right time to make the transaction. Acquiring more assets for a minimal charge.
 
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And the other reality is Cleveland didn't even need to do it. They are already pretty stacked and most likely favorites to win it all. They could have easily dropped Haywood for nothing and traded Miller to some other team for 2nd rounders.
no, they did need to, b/c Haywood and Miller are going to cost them about 50M in total cash this year b/w salary and tax with almost no talent benefit. They still need talent, but now they can get 10M worth of talent and 2.8M worth of talent using the exceptions. I don't think Gilbert cares about paying tax for a winner, but not for the carcasses of Haywood and Miller. And cutting Haywood doesn't help them much b/c they can only sign vet min guys to replace his spot. This way they can find a "good" "overpaid" player to help them.
 
no, they did need to, b/c Haywood and Miller are going to cost them about 50M in total cash this year b/w salary and tax with almost no talent benefit. They still need talent, but now they can get 10M worth of talent and 2.8M worth of talent using the exceptions. I don't think Gilbert cares about paying tax for a winner, but not for the carcasses of Haywood and Miller. And cutting Haywood doesn't help them much b/c they can only sign vet min guys to replace his spot. This way they can find a "good" "overpaid" player to help them.
They already have enough talent to win the whole damn thing. They almost did it with two of their big three out. Their counter could be "fuck u and your request for a first rounder because we can just drop both and still win the kitty".

Anyone that assumes teams could get more can't seriously see the big picture.
 
no, they did need to, b/c Haywood and Miller are going to cost them about 50M in total cash this year b/w salary and tax with almost no talent benefit. They still need talent, but now they can get 10M worth of talent and 2.8M worth of talent using the exceptions. I don't think Gilbert cares about paying tax for a winner, but not for the carcasses of Haywood and Miller. And cutting Haywood doesn't help them much b/c they can only sign vet min guys to replace his spot. This way they can find a "good" "overpaid" player to help them.

Haywood's deal isn't guaranteed.
 
I wonder if the Blazers will keep Mike Miller. We do need some help at SF, a SF who can shoot. I don't know what was up with him last season, or why his shooting took such a big nose dive.

But I'd just as soon keep him than pay him to leave for nothing. He was one of the better SFs in the league throughout his career.
I don't think it makes any sense in this stage of our re-calibration (or whatever) to give any playing time to veterans. Specifically, Aminu, Harkless, and Crabbe need all the time on the floor they can get, to either become better or prove they aren't NBA players. The same also applies to Kaman of course; I hope he understands the situation.
 
I don't think it makes any sense in this stage of our re-calibration (or whatever) to give any playing time to veterans. Specifically, Aminu, Harkless, and Crabbe need all the time on the floor they can get, to either become better or prove they aren't NBA players. The same also applies to Kaman of course; I hope he understands the situation.
If we could use Miller and build his value, he would be perfect to use for another player mid season.
 
I'm not complaining about adding assets, but it seems to me that we didn't get a whole lot in return for doing Cleveland a huge favor.
I think that you have to consider that Cleveland also could have gone to Philadelphia with this and done the same deal; there is usually some competition when you can get something for nothing.
 
Not sure how to link tweets, but looks like Delladova is going back to Cavs, so negates the thought of this deal helps with them not matching if we offered.
 
Not sure how to link tweets, but looks like Delladova is going back to Cavs, so negates the thought of this deal helps with them not matching if we offered.

Far cry from the 4 MIL that Delly wanted. Maybe he thinks he can cash in better next summer?
 
Not sure how to link tweets, but looks like Delladova is going back to Cavs, so negates the thought of this deal helps with them not matching if we offered.


pfff he needs to fire his agent asap. How did he not get at least 3-4 mil' a year in this crazy market is beyond me.
 
Mods, please add the word "contracts" to the thread title.

Because the players will never play here.
 
Far cry from the 4 MIL that Delly wanted. Maybe he thinks he can cash in better next summer?
would be my best guess. Otherwise no reason to pass up security of longer deal at his tier.
 
I see some folks saying that CLE got the greater value out of the trade because we only got 2 2nd rounders. You have to look at it from a team to team perspective, the trade was valuable for each team in their own rights. Both teams gained something. Sure it LOOKS better for CLE but they are in a completely different situation than POR is. They are contending, Portland isn't. We gained two more assets for NOTHING. It really is that simple.
 
You admit he lost the trade (didn't win it). You admit it was a minor deal (one he had no incentive to make). So I agree, he gets trades like this done.

Wrong. Trades can be a win for each team. It's not an either or between the two teams. Look at the Blazers before and after the trade; does it make them better? This is a very minor trade but in a minor sense I say yes they are now better.
 

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